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Precise 5.6.4 alpha
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OscarTalks

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PostPosted: Sun 14 Jul 2013, 05:24    Post subject:  

Hello BarryK,

On your blog you were asking about Chromium. This one works in Precise 5.6.1 though you may wish to make your own alterations to the switches in the exec line at the end of the chrome-wrapper script in the main folder.

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=86501

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pemasu


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PostPosted: Sun 14 Jul 2013, 08:46    Post subject:  

Pidgin bug:
There is something wrong with irc plugin.
pidgin --debug:
plugins: probing /usr/lib/purple-2/libirc.so
plugins: /usr/lib/purple-2/libirc.so is not loadable: undefined symbol: sasl_client_step

It disables testing of freenode and puppylinux channel.

#puppylinux channel is ok. There is all the time people asking help about how to get this and that working. I think that discussion of how bad things are in #puppylinux channel, tells more about those complaining people. The same complainers have created havoc in murga-forum sometimes. My explicit experience is that #puppylinux forum is the right forum to ask help in chat and there is nothing wrong with it.

I copied over irc plugin libirc.so from my wheezy 2.10.6 compile and got pidgin working. I did login to the #puppylinux with attached pidgin-autoinstall script. I fixed the script Barry K posted in his blog.

Remove the phony .gz
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backi

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PostPosted: Sun 14 Jul 2013, 09:54    Post subject:  

Hi !
I am using Precise 5.6.1 made a test with 5.6.4 Precise .
Works fine so far .Dont want to complain ....but why when testing glxgears
precise 5.6.1 give double framerate over 5.6.4 ( the Rarings Pups also half the framerate compared to Precise 5.6.1) ?

Is there something one could do about ? (is it really nessessary ? )
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session


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Location: Valley of the Sun

PostPosted: Sun 14 Jul 2013, 10:36    Post subject:  

Working OK on my 12 year old Celeron/Rage box...
Comparing some display information with Wary 5.5:

Precise 5.6.4
Code:
-OpenGL-
Vendor         : VMware, Inc.
Renderer      : Gallium 0.4 on softpipe
Version         : 2.1 Mesa 8.0.4
Direct Rendering   : Yes

-Glxgears-
75 frames in 5.0 seconds = 14.974 FPS
73 frames in 5.0 seconds = 14.473 FPS
78 frames in 5.0 seconds = 15.554 FPS


Wary 5.5.1
Code:
-OpenGL-
Vendor         : VA Linux Systems, Inc.
Renderer      : Mesa DRI Rage 128 20051027 AGP 1x x86/MMX/SSE2
Version         : 1.2 Mesa 6.5.2
Direct Rendering   : Yes

-Glxgears-
1336 frames in 5.0 seconds = 267.042 FPS
1335 frames in 5.0 seconds = 266.828 FPS
1333 frames in 5.0 seconds = 266.452 FPS

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pemasu


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PostPosted: Sun 14 Jul 2013, 11:14    Post subject:  

Here is the irc plugin for Barry`s pidgin testing purpose. It has been picked up from my Dpup Wheezy pidgin 2.10.6 compile so it is not the quite right one. It works though.

Jabber plugin from that compile does not work in Barry`s compile. There is ssl-gnutls version mismatch.
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OscarTalks

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PostPosted: Sun 14 Jul 2013, 14:40    Post subject:  

@ BarryK,

I was just tinkering with the new SeaMonkey 2.19 and found that in Precise 5.6.4 it doesn't start and in Precise 5.6.1 the old SeaMonkey still starts.

The symlink "seamonkey" in /usr/bin seems to be pointing to /usr/lib/seamonkey2.17.1/seamonkey ... Is this the correct path?

The .desktop file points to "mozilla" which is in turn a symlink to the symlink "seamonkey".

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FeodorF


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PostPosted: Sun 14 Jul 2013, 22:01    Post subject:  Auto-detect of video card at first boot
Subject description: Auto-detect fails on NVIDIA graphic card [SOLVED]
 

Problem Solved (see end of post)
=======================
One minor bug - the NVIDIA NV18 [GeForce4 MX 440 AGP 8x] isn't auto-detected properly.

You will have to run: Puppy pfix=ram,nox - and use xorgwizard with the nv-driver option and reboot.

System used: P-III 933 (Coppermine)

/etc/X11/xorg.conf.NVIDIAX203H
Code:
Driver      "nv" #card0driver
Identifier "Screen0"
Device     "Card0"
Monitor    "Monitor0"
DefaultDepth 24
Subsection "Display"
   Depth       24
   Modes       "1600x900"

lspci -nn >> /root/info.txt
Code:
00:00.0 Host bridge [0600]: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C693A/694x [Apollo PRO133x] [1106:0691] (rev c4)
00:01.0 PCI bridge [0604]: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C598/694x [Apollo MVP3/Pro133x AGP] [1106:8598]
00:07.0 ISA bridge [0601]: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C596 ISA [Mobile South] [1106:0596] (rev 23)
00:07.1 IDE interface [0101]: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C586A/B/VT82C686/A/B/VT823x/A/C PIPC Bus Master IDE [1106:0571] (rev 10)
00:07.2 USB controller [0c03]: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82xxxxx UHCI USB 1.1 Controller [1106:3038] (rev 11)
00:07.3 Host bridge [0600]: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C596 Power Management [1106:3050] (rev 30)
00:10.0 Multimedia audio controller [0401]: C-Media Electronics Inc CM8738 [13f6:0111] (rev 10)
00:11.0 RAID bus controller [0104]: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT6421 IDE/SATA Controller [1106:3249] (rev 50)
00:12.0 Ethernet controller [0200]: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+ [10ec:8139] (rev 10)
00:13.0 USB controller [0c03]: NEC Corporation USB [1033:0035] (rev 43)
00:13.1 USB controller [0c03]: NEC Corporation USB [1033:0035] (rev 43)
00:13.2 USB controller [0c03]: NEC Corporation USB 2.0 [1033:00e0] (rev 04)
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: NVIDIA Corporation NV18 [GeForce4 MX 440 AGP 8x] [10de:0181] (rev c1)

looking at: /usr/share/misc/pci.ids
Code:
10de  NVIDIA Corporation
   0181  NV18 [GeForce4 MX 440 AGP 8x]
      1043 8063  GeForce4 MX 440 AGP 8X
      1043 806f  V9180 Magic
      1462 8880  MS-StarForce GeForce4 MX 440 with AGP8X
      1462 8900  MS-8890 GeForce 4 MX440 AGP8X
      1462 9350  MSI GeForce4 MX T8X with AGP8X
      147b 8f0d  Siluro GF4 MX-8X
      1554 1111  PixelView MVGA-NVG18A

Menu->System->Lighthouse sys-info:
Code:
product: NV18 Board - nv18nz Chip Rev A4

Quote:
I don't know how to read:

SVendor
Name of the subsystem vendor (optional).
SDevice
Name of the subsystem (optional).

Do I have to compile 'my_lspci' from 'http://linux.die.net/man/8/lspci' ?

==================================
Problem Solved

There was an error in the BIOS 'Chipset Feature Setup'.
Quote:
AGP-Aperatur Size: ...
AGP-4x Mode: Disabled (Has to be set!)
AGP Driving Control: ...

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James C


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PostPosted: Sun 14 Jul 2013, 22:20    Post subject: Re: Auto-detect of video card at first boot
Subject description: Auto-detect fails on NVIDIA graphic card
 

FeodorF wrote:
One minor bug - the NVIDIA NV18 [GeForce4 MX 440 AGP 8x] isn't auto-detected properly.

You will have to run: Puppy pfix=ram,nox - and use xorgwizard with the nv-driver option and reboot.

System used: P-III 933 (Coppermine)


For what it's worth, my ...
Code:
Chip description:
VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation NV18 [GeForce4 MX 440 AGP 8x] (rev c1)

Requested by /etc/X11/xorg.conf:
Resolution (widthxheight, in pixels): 1440x900
Depth (bits, or planes): 24
Modules requested to be loaded: dbe

Probing Xorg startup log file (/var/log/Xorg.0.log):
Driver loaded (and currently in use): nouveau

....... boots straight to the correct desktop resolution using the nouveau driver.
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=713110#713110
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jrb


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PostPosted: Mon 15 Jul 2013, 10:00    Post subject: Boot to Xorgwizard
Subject description: Is it necessary?
 

First let me say that I am very excited by the idea of a lean, mean, fast new Puppy! I haven't paid too much attention to the Precise line up until now because it appeared to me to be, like Ubuntu, bloated and overly complicated.

For the last year or more I've been running pfix=ram with changes to the system stored in a seperate SFS loaded at boot. This has been made possible by the newer Xorgs booting directly to the desktop. Imagine my surprise when Precise561 booted to the Xorgwizard Sad , but I wasn't too disappointed as I wasn't going to use it anyway. But now here is Precise564, an exciting new concept, and it too boots to Xorgwizard.

Well, I have tracked the changes down and found it to be in the init file in initrd.gz. So I changed it out with the init from Precise55 and now its back to booting directly to desktop. Very Happy

So my question is, is it necessary to boot to Xorgwizard Question If so, fine, and I will post an alternate initrd.gz for those who want to go directly to desktop.

Barry, Thanks for moving in this direction (small and simple) and for all your hard work.

BTW, I'm very impressed with the QtWeb browser. I think it should be the default with a Quickpet to install the user's browser of choice.(are you saving that as a surprise?)

Cheers, J
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linuxcbon

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PostPosted: Wed 17 Jul 2013, 06:12    Post subject:  

PRECISE 5.6.4 :
- numlock is OFF by default.
- one browser is enough.
- qtweb has source code available, could be made default (it seems stable).
- "pet_packages-precise" contains many big files, like openshot, amd fglrx drivers, chromium, gimp, abiword, nvidia glx drivers, seamonkey, exaile, firefox, opera, audacity, gtkmm...
- in /etc/group there is twice group number 2. And contains unused groups.
- /root/network/Network/AppRun leaves delayedrun process ?
- Is /usr/local/share/ needed ?
- # /usr/bin/fpm2
** (fpm2:5167): WARNING **: Couldn't find pixmap file: logo.png
- .Xdefaults* is not needed anymore in linux ?
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PostPosted: Thu 18 Jul 2013, 10:52    Post subject: Precise 5.6.4 alpha
Subject description: qupzilla
 

I compiled a small QT web browser named Qupzilla in Precise 564 alpha.
I installed two qt pets that I made in Lupu last year and they worked
okay: qt-everywhere-opensource-src-4.8.4-i686.pet and
qt-everywhere-opensource-src_DEV-4.8.4-i686.pet then followed the
build instructions in the qupzilla source code directory.
Anyhow, it seems to be working great in precise 564, videos at cnn.com
and youtube.com play well.
I don't really know how to package this so I'll leave that to someone
else who can do it if interested.
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PostPosted: Thu 18 Jul 2013, 11:40    Post subject: Re: Precise 5.6.4 alpha
Subject description: qupzilla
 

Billtoo wrote:
I compiled a small QT web browser named Qupzilla in Precise 564 alpha.
How does it compare to QtWeb? No compiling needed, just download and run.

On MacOS
QtWeb 11.4 MB
+ flash > ted.com, youtube.com ok
+ works well everywhere I tried
QupZilla 56 MB ?

On Precise564
QtWeb 10.3 MB
+ flash > ted.com, youtube.com ok
+ works well everywhere I tried
QupZilla ?? MB ?
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PostPosted: Thu 18 Jul 2013, 12:06    Post subject: Re: Precise 5.6.4 alpha
Subject description: qupzilla
 

broomdodger wrote:
Billtoo wrote:
I compiled a small QT web browser named Qupzilla in Precise 564 alpha.
How does it compare to QtWeb? No compiling needed, just download and run.

On MacOS
QtWeb 11.4 MB
+ flash > ted.com, youtube.com ok
+ works well everywhere I tried
QupZilla 56 MB ?

On Precise564
QtWeb 10.3 MB
+ flash > ted.com, youtube.com ok
+ works well everywhere I tried
QupZilla ?? MB ?



They both work well, I don't know how it would compare in size if Barry
or pemasu compiled and packaged it.
It's still being developed, latest release was in May 2013, anyway
I just thought it looked interesting.

EDIT: I installed another application in ppm and it broke my Qupzilla, think I'll stick with firefox.
My cat likes to snoop, Smile
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PostPosted: Thu 18 Jul 2013, 14:29    Post subject:  

Finally - got round to trying this on my 10+yr old Acer laptop.
Absolutely brilliant - all seems to work OTB - and fast.
Not far from the perfect puppy - for me it is. Thanks for this.
Will play some more and then post a Hinfo report.

edit: Truly superb - no obvious issues - runs like a dream.

# uname -a
Linux puppypc6463 3.2.48 #1 SMP Thu Jul 11 12:20:55 GMT-8 2013 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux
# free
total used free shared buffers
Mem: 366904 304176 62728 0 33232
-/+ buffers: 270944 95960
Swap: 658660 518248 140412
# top
Mem: 304528K used, 62376K free, 0K shrd, 33232K buff, 157052K cached
CPU: 14% usr 5% sys 0% nic 79% idle 0% io 0% irq 0% sirq
Load average: 0.23 0.35 0.34 1/66 2125
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PostPosted: Sun 21 Jul 2013, 23:08    Post subject:  

James C started a bug topic for Precise 5.6.9 here:
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=87545

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