Precise Puppy 5.7.1

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Precise Puppy 5.7

#61 Post by Billtoo »

I'm running from the live dvd with a savefile, computer is an intel
imac.
video-info-glx 1.5.3 Tue 30 Jul 2013 on Precise Puppy 5.7 Linux 3.9.11 i686
0.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI Radeon
HD 2400 XT
oem: ATI ATOMBIOS
product: M74 01.00
X Server: Xorg Driver: radeon
X.Org version: 1.11.3
dimensions: 1680x1050 pixels (444x277 millimeters)
depth of root window: 24 planes
direct rendering: Yes
server glx vendor string: SGI
server glx version string: 1.4
OpenGL vendor string: X.Org
OpenGL renderer string: Gallium 0.4 on AMD RV610
OpenGL version string: 2.1 Mesa 8.0.4
# glxgears
Running synchronized to the vertical refresh. The framerate should be
approximately the same as the monitor refresh rate.
301 frames in 5.0 seconds = 60.128 FPS
300 frames in 5.0 seconds = 59.877 FPS
300 frames in 5.0 seconds = 59.861 FPS
#
Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU E8135 @ 2.40GHz
Core 0: @800 1: @800 MHz
Memory 4127MB (269MB used)
Network controller Broadcom Corporation BCM4321 802.11a/b/g/n (rev 05)

It's working well, no problems at all so far.
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#62 Post by Jades »

bigpup wrote:During development of Lucid Puppy, Gnome Mplayer was worked on, with a lot of troubleshooting and trying to make it work.
Heh, those were the days! I still have a soft spot for Lupu as it was the first Linux distro I ever actively contributed to as a tester.
bigpup wrote:XineDVD program was added as the specific player for DVD movies.
XineDVD is mint, and as far as I recall isn't all that big either. There's a strong case for just going with having it as the default DVD player rather than spend ages hitting Gnome Mplayer with hammers until it graduates to half-arsed DVD player.

Not every problem can be solved with a hammer. So I'm told, anyway. ;-)

I'll give the retro version of Precise 5.7 a go on my K6-2 and report back. Let's see if it gets as far as the desktop this time!
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keymap /keyboard problems

#63 Post by scsijon »

Folks, those with keyboard/keymap problems: (pemasu, Terryphi, Charlie6,+)

If you drop out of JWM to the prompt, do you still have the problem in raw X mode?

As Joe is about to release JWM 2.2 (post snapshot version 835 and origonally due a week or so ago), if it's happening inside JWM that would be something he needs to know and see if it needs a fix before that happens. He has only one problem left to solve and a patch is awaiting his return, so it's not very far off.

Oh, yes, what JWM are you using as anything before 835 do have problems of one sort or another.

thanks

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#64 Post by OscarTalks »

scsijon,
Good thinking that it may be connected to JWM, still not sure though.
When I drop to prompt the characters display correctly.
Only if I type "xwin" to start X again do the characters display wrongly until I try typing and close a program.

Precise 5.7 has JWM snapshot 819 but I just tried 831 and then 835 and I also tried going back to release 2.1.0 and they all behave the same way so doesn't look like was a bug with a specific JWM version. Will keep digging.
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Precise Puppy 5.7

#65 Post by Monsie »

I am currently testing Precise Puppy retro while running a live CD. I am quite impressed with how things look so far, especially since it is running nicely on my fourteen year old Pentium lll I ended up switching to the default video driver for my ATI Rage 128 and managed to tweak xorg.conf a bit...

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# report-video
VIDEO REPORT: Precise Puppy, version 5.7

Chip description:
VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI Rage 128 Pro Ultra TF

Requested by /etc/X11/xorg.conf:
  Depth (bits, or planes):              24
  Modules requested to be loaded:       dbe 
  Drivers requested to be loaded:       r128 

Probing Xorg startup log file (/var/log/Xorg.0.log):
  Driver loaded (and currently in use): r128
  Loaded modules: dbe ddc dri dri2 extmod fb glx i2c int10 kbd mouse ramdac record shadowfb vbe vgahw xaa

Actual rendering on monitor:
  Resolution:  1024x768 pixels (302x232 millimeters)
  Depth:       24 planes

...the above also recorded in /tmp/report-video
# glxgears
38 frames in 5.1 seconds =  7.426 FPS
38 frames in 5.1 seconds =  7.435 FPS
40 frames in 5.2 seconds =  7.687 FPS
39 frames in 5.1 seconds =  7.633 FPS
40 frames in 5.0 seconds =  7.983 FPS
38 frames in 5.0 seconds =  7.599 FPS
40 frames in 5.0 seconds =  7.983 FPS
39 frames in 5.1 seconds =  7.640 FPS
40 frames in 5.0 seconds =  7.980 FPS
39 frames in 5.1 seconds =  7.641 FPS
^C
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I notice that Partview still shows that I have a 4gb optical drive when in fact I only have a CD rom drive... I am enclosing a screenshot.

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Pidgin

#66 Post by rameshiyer »

I am unable to log into gtalk, Facebook, etc due to authentication problem in Pidgin chat which is integrated into Precise Puppy 5.7.

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#67 Post by Sage »

Terry/Oscar - did you try swapping around several keyboards yet? I was also reminded that many laptops we import (from China) have a generic k/b designed for the world's largest market and not all respond to the symbols on their keys! [Another black mark against my favourite hate machines!]

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#68 Post by Terryphi »

Sage wrote:Terry/Oscar - did you try swapping around several keyboards yet?]
Of course not! It is a bug in the OS.
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#69 Post by Sage »

Oh yes, but it is also HW dependent.

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keyboard troubles in X

#70 Post by L18L »

Without X keyboard is working as expected.

So I have put a command to set keyboard mapping in X into Startup directory:
my $HOME/Startup/level3 wrote:#!/bin/sh
setxkbmap de -option lv3:ralt_switch # @ | ~ \ µ by right Alt key#
Change from de to the language of your keyboard
right Alt switch enables @ and ... see above comment

http://blog.ssokolow.com/archives/2011/ ... setxkbmap/

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#71 Post by OscarTalks »

The same keyboard layout bug happens in Pemasu's Upup Raring 3.9.9.1

Does this help us to track it down?
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#72 Post by Lobster »

:D

Using the Precise 5.7
Thought I would run seamonkey as spot

Later on I tried importing my HTML bookmarks

It would not let me.
This is the same thing that happens in Fatdog which also runs the browser as spot

System / Login and Security Manager allows you turn off the 'extra security' of spot - which I don't need and import your bookmarks
I don't use the sync facility . . .

Phew - took me awhile to figure that out . . . 8)
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#73 Post by ASRI éducation »

@ Barry

I hope my English is understandable (not sure).
I really appreciate the quality of your last Puppy.
I also appreciate your efforts related to the usability of users.
Obviously, I know and I strongly support that Puppy is a small distro.

So, I do not understand the integration of two Internet browsers in the retro release. In my opinion, it gets too big the main sfs file (it denigrates the efforts of thinness).
If you would like to leave the choice to the user, I think it would be better to integrate into the iso file (outside the main sfs), the sfs file browsers. This involves adding a GUI that allows to select and mount the sfs package browser at the first use. This solution also allows more flexibility for updates.
This is obviously only my humble opinion.

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#74 Post by Jades »

OscarTalks wrote:The easiest way I have found to reproduce the keyboard layout bug is:-

Restart X Server
Open Geany
Type characters such as @ " # \

Perhaps other UK users at least would be so kind as to try this simple test.
Pfix=ram boot of Precise 5.7 Retro on the Pentium D.

Put usual settings (including UK keyboard) into QuickSetup then restarted X server.

Tried checking keyboard in Geany. Correct characters come up every time, also do in Abiword and Opera.

Maybe the type and connection of the keyboard is significant? The one on the Pentium D is a standard UK layout Genius KB-06X connected directly by PS/2.
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#75 Post by Jades »

OscarTalks wrote:The same keyboard layout bug happens in Pemasu's Upup Raring 3.9.9.1

Does this help us to track it down?
I'll double-check but I'm pretty sure I haven't seen it in that version.
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Pythom

#76 Post by tlchost »

Does anyone have a pet or sfs for Python? Apparently its been removed from 5.7 PAE. Installed it via the PPM, but foobnix will not run. Withj a fresh save file I loaded in the dev.sfs and foobnix does run.

Thanks

Thom

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#77 Post by OscarTalks »

Jades,
Thanks for giving it a try. I have tested on 4 desktops and 2 laptops of different brands and ages with ps2 keyboards and usb keyboards and it happens in all of them. One thing to remember though is that once you open any app, type something and close that app then the problem temporarily goes away. You have to restart X each time if you are trying different apps.

Hopefully BarryK will investigate when he has time.

As he mentioned, he hasn't altered much that could cause this. I did wonder if it could be related to the new pup_event since that starts when X starts, but I have tested both of 01micko's latest Slacko betas which have the new pup_event and the bug does not happen in those.
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Re: /root/.Xdefaults has an unecpected space.

#78 Post by BarryK »

cygnus_odile wrote:Hellow, everyone, and Thanks to Mr Barry K. for your Puppy.
I've been using "Puppy" for long time (about 4yeras), and mainly Japanese edition.

In Recent Precise Puppy's "/root/.Xdefaults" has an unexpected space at the end of line 8.

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Rxvt.keysym.0xFF57: \033[4~ 
So pushing "END" key causes the Cursor to jump and gives an unexpected space at the end of line, when editing the command line or using a text-editor on Urxvt.

This point is corrected in Precise Puppy 550JP ( Mr. Shinobar's Japanese edition).

Dear Mr.Barry K. please delete it (a space) in .Xdefaults and .Xdefaults.back, in next release.

... ... thank you for reading my post through.
Thanks for that, I have just fixed it in Woof.
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Re: /root/.Xdefaults has an unecpected space.

#79 Post by BarryK »

Double post.
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Re: Pythom

#80 Post by BarryK »

tlchost wrote:Does anyone have a pet or sfs for Python? Apparently its been removed from 5.7 PAE. Installed it via the PPM, but foobnix will not run. Withj a fresh save file I loaded in the dev.sfs and foobnix does run.

Thanks

Thom
Python is in the devx sfs file.
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