Upup Raring 3.9.9.2 with non-PAE 3.9.9 kernel. 13 July 2013

[pemasu]

solnyshok. There is laptop-mode functionality scripts in Upup Raring.
/etc/acpi/* is the location.

Check content of etc/acpi/turbo.sh and /etc/acpi/performance.sh

There is the relevant row which changes the brightness.
About keybindings. Xbindkeys provide it in Upup Raring.
There is a gui to find out the key parameter and to bind it to the command.

In Menu > Utility > Xbindkeys config utility.

Charlie6. There is weird keyboard problems in latest Precise Puppy. Barry thinks that some .deb is behind it. He is aggressively hunting the bug now. It is very probable that Upup Raring problem arises from same .deb. I dont have a glue personally what causes it. Check the latest Precise thread and Barry`s blog about situation.

Edoc. Good that you found out somekind solution. I will let that broadcom problem to rest now. I dont have new ideas at the moment.

[tlchost]

There is laptop-mode functionality scripts in Upup Raring.
/etc/acpi/* is the location.

Check content of etc/acpi/turbo.sh and /etc/acpi/performance.sh

How could one go about adding their functionality to another OS, such as Precise?

Thanks

[Jim1911]

Hi pemasu,

Re. the problem I reported about mounting an ntfs partition read/write. I had the same problem with Barry's latest precise. So rcrsn51 suggested that I replace the relevant ntfs-3g components with those from a pup that works. It worked, so I tried it with this distribution too. Deleted files ntfs-3g, libntfs-3g.so.84, and libntfs-3g.so84.0.0 and replaced them with slacko 5.5.70 files nfts-3g, libntfs-3g.so.83, and libntfs-3g.so.83.0.0 and it's mounting properly.

Regards,
Jim

[edoc]

Any idea why the audio from the laptop with Raring is not being received via HDMI at the TV, please?

I've tried every setting I can think of on the laptop and the TV.

Thanks!

[pemasu]

Well HDMI and sound. In what Puppy have you succeeded with it ?
How I do it. I use ATI from my dual graphics. I need to install proprietary ATI driver. Then I switch to use it. Reboot also. Next boot, multiple soundcard wizard and I switch to use ATI hdmi soundcard. Next...I download gnome-alsamixer. I untick with it IEC958 or something like that from inbuild soundcard and I tick the same option from ATI hdmi card. That switching is something that retrovol does not offer and it is mandatory for me.

Next....I wonder what movie I watch with my son. Last night it was Parker.

Jim1911. Thank you of your post. Good to hear that...maybe. Of course it would be better to know the reason. I wonder what has changed that win8 ntfs partition is not read write. Is it bug or intended from ubuntu devs ?

By the way....I dropped my working horse from the table to the stony floor. Accidental quick elbow movement. Anyway...Acer 5820TG display is broken. As you read above, it works otherwise and grapchics card works. Only display is totally broken. It is over 3 years old. I am not going to send it to the acer maintanance. But I emailed them and got tips how to bypass UEFI and secureboot with new win8 acer laptops. I am using now really old acer laptop 3610. I got it as donation years ago. As used somebody was selling this one in net with 45 euros yesterday. Lol. Real monster. The battery is about dead, it does not stand taking ac/dc out. The hinges were broken. The cover opened strangely. I fixed it with superglue and with 2 nokia flat cell phone batteries. Anyway....my workhorse will serve me now as multimedia hdmi laptop.

I spent 3 evenings in net hunting those used laptop pages. I found one interesting and started to shout for it. But....my recommendations points were too low....I did not have right to place my price. I had certified my account through bank account confirmation...but that was not enough. But it was enough for me. I stopped that used laptop hunting when I found another interesting one. I wanted to know more about hw specs. The seller didnt bother to email me back. That was enough.

http://vxlabs.com/2013/03/24/acer-v3-57 ... nt-laptop/

I found one netshop in Finland which sells that kind laptop. Lower specs though but with that HD IPS screen. I5 dual core, 500 Gb hdd. Nvidia Geforce 710M. And....I should be able to switch to use legacy BIOS and I hope I can wipe safely win8 from it.

Due to finnish keyboard special characters...I cant buy laptop from foreign country netshops with lower price. In my budget....this buying is unwanted cost. I have to live low now several months. I have checked beforehand that the laptop should support linux fine. Lets see.

[edoc]

pemasu - Can you receive a small contribution via Paypal? If so PM me the info. David

[edoc]

Well HDMI and sound. In what Puppy have you succeeded with it ?
How I do it. I use ATI from my dual graphics. I need to install proprietary ATI driver. Then I switch to use it. Reboot also. Next boot, multiple soundcard wizard and I switch to use ATI hdmi soundcard. Next...I download gnome-alsamixer. I untick with it IEC958 or something like that from inbuild soundcard and I tick the same option from ATI hdmi card. That switching is something that retrovol does not offer and it is mandatory for me.

It never occurred to me that the internal sound could not switch to the HDMI connector in Linux as it works fine via the inferior OS - Microsoft win7.

Rather than add another project I'll just feed the headphone output to the TV via a separate cable.

Speaking of sound - why does an ALSA reset wipe the wifi settings we just went through to get the external wifi nic to work - incl. bypassing the internal nic?

[pemasu]

Edoc. About accepting donations. I havent thought about it. My budget problem arises from the concurrent instances. My kids want to see the sun, feel warm weather and sea at semester vacation and I have paid the front payment of 5 persons for the trip to the Red Sea. I have to live low because of these simultaneous expenses.

I do have PayPal account. I have donated some sums to the real developers around linux world at infrequent intervals. I dont expect donations from my work. I more or less woof build, compile kernel, compile apps from source and include great Puppy apps and put them together. Nothing more. Without Barry Kauler`s input I would repeat same builds. I aint coder.

If someone sometimes after reading above...want to make small donation, I dont say no. More or less as experience to get something back. Lol. You need to pm me though to have my paypal email address. I am not going to have donation announcement anywhere.

Edoc. About ALSA reset. I dont quite follow what is the procedure you meant. Could you elaborate.

[edoc]

Edoc. About ALSA reset. I dont quite follow what is the procedure you meant. Could you elaborate.

I was trying to get audio to go to the HDMI port & thought, after tweaking some things, that running ALSA Wizard might be a good idea.

There is a warning in ALSA Wizard but it was late ...

Anyhow, it seems a bit meat-handed for whoever maintains that code to allow it to touch anything not specific to sound - which means map-around the modem/wifi nic sections of configuration files. It sure doesn't seem that such would be all that hard to do (if-then).

Perhaps I am missing something?

Meanwhile, the wifi is working again - BTW: I added a Netgear WM2000RPT to the far side of the house - which has helped wifi nic stability considerably.

[pemasu]

Edoc. I suspected that you have used alsawizard. I havent used it for 3 years. My Acer 5820TG audio was not supported by it. It didnt even find my audio chip. But...I havent needed it. Alsawizard seems to find audio chip in this crappy Acer 3610 laptop. Now I can check what alsawizard does. Might be something I can play with this weekend.

I remember that Barry Kauler posted something about alsawizard at some time. Maybe one year ago ?
I remember dimly that he recommended the usage of alsawizard as last resort. I dont remember straight if it was because the code in alsawizard has not been updated in years of if newer alsa versions are not fully compatible with it anymore. Time to check what he posted if I can track his post. Maybe in his blog.

[pemasu]

About alsaconf script inside alsawizard gui: http://bkhome.org/blog/?viewDetailed=02283

It was posted over 2 years ago. Time flies....

[edoc]

About alsaconf script inside alsawizard gui: http://bkhome.org/blog/?viewDetailed=02283

It was posted over 2 years ago. Time flies....

1. He doesn't address the meat-handed ALSA Wizard code which isn't properly written to avoid harming non-sound configuration settings.

2. That last comment raises a good point - if a laptop offers a HDMI port then the audio software must handle sending sound via HDMI - is there a different sound mixer or other app that will manage the HDMI port - for audio - better than that provided by default in Raring?

I am guessing that many laptop users have HDMI ports.

[01micko]

the script alsaconf is an abomination and all distros have removed it, including slacko at the release of 5.4. It is not compatible with 3 series kernels nor kmod. It has not been maintained upstream for somewhere near 5 years. It is likely to break sound and will never fix it!

As for hdmi, you are at the mercy of the kernel...

The only things to try are the MSCW and alsactl.

[pemasu]

Thanks 01micko of clearing alsaconf status.

About hdmi. Yeah...Multiple sound card wizard, and for me, also gnome-alsamixer has been needed to switch that IEC958 or something from inbuild sound chip to the graphics card bound hdmi audio. And proprietary graphics driver. Kernel included radeon didnt provide audio for my now partly broken laptop.

And...now I noticed that gnome-alsamixer which comes from ubuntu raring repo is broken. What I checked, several people using raring or raring based distros have noticed it.

I have used my gnome-alsamixer pet from squeeze. It produces complaints but does not seqfault like ubuntu raring version.
Here is the link for it if someone wants to play with it. Basically same things than Retrovol offers, but it sees both my audio chips and I can tick and untick that critical option to get my hdmi to work.

http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/pool/ma ... 2_i386.deb

[edoc]

Why would Hardware Info identify a USB SDR radio receiver
TerraTec Cinergy T Stick+ as a Keyboard device usb-0000:00:1d.7-1/ir0 please?

[gnomic]

Anyone able to confirm (or deny) that this puplet is able to effect an internet connection using a 3G modem? I saw some mention of the usb_modeswitch software which I believe is essential to making such a connection above. If it is possible, that would be done via Frisbee?

[charlie6]

Hi Pemasu,

Charlie6. There is weird keyboard problems in latest Precise Puppy. Barry thinks that some .deb is behind it. He is aggressively hunting the bug now. It is very probable that Upup Raring problem arises from same .deb...

tested on latest (2013-08-02) Precise-5.7.1 → non-US keymap-set works as expected using older .debs.
Also thanks for your post on bkhome
charlie

[pemasu]

Edoc. You should plug in the tuner and then run in console: pdiag ....and post the created tarball. If the tuner is not working I believe you are missing firmware for your stick. If it works, then it is hardware app misinformation. Did you mean Hardinfo app.
I have gathered rather extensive tuner firmware collection to my hdd folder and I am going to expand it if I find missing ones. So....I am interested to check what diagnostic files tell.

And thank you of the other thing. I truly appreciate it.

Gnomic. I updated the usb-modeswitch to the version 1.26. I havent done that before. Rerwin has been Puppy guy to update usb-modeswitch. But since it has been year when it has been updated last, and a lot new 3g modem chips has popped up, I gave it a try. But...I havent had now 3g modem stick available. I have not had possibility to test if I have been successful. I hope so. If not, I suppose Rerwin soon updates it. He updated it already for Lucid Puppy. I will test the 3g modem situation when I have a chance. Anyway. My intention is to support 3g modems as much I can. And..it is Pupdial which you should use with 3g modem. I tested it with pin code protected 3g modem with older release about one week ago. Worked fine.
If my updating was not successful, the fix will be downloading older version from Puppy repo and use it. 1.24 version surely works in my build.

Charlie6. Yeah. I noticed the progress. The problem is still partly unsolved. The guilty package has not been found yet. Barry reverted the .deb repository and that fixed it.

[edoc]

Headed out the door to help paint a room at the church - here's the pdiag output.

Should be back to check the forum in a few hours.

Thanks for looking!

[pemasu]

Edoc. You didnt answer does the tuner work. I mean as tv tuner. It might have other chips inside, but tv tuning is which I understand.

Anyway. The chip inside it is RTL2832U and it wants dvb_usb_rtl28xxu kernel module driver. No firmware is needed. The module developer is finnish guy. Antti Palosaari. I have once emailed with him about rtl2832u support in linux.

I have explicitly checked when I compiled the kernel that this driver has been included.

[ 16.226653] usb 1-1: dvb_usb_v2: found a 'TerraTec Cinergy T Stick+' in warm state
[ 16.226790] usbcore: registered new interface driver dvb_usb_rtl28xxu
[ 16.290266] usb 1-1: dvb_usb_v2: will pass the complete MPEG2 transport stream to the software demuxer
[ 16.290297] DVB: registering new adapter (TerraTec Cinergy T Stick+)
[ 16.507140] usb 1-1: DVB: registering adapter 0 frontend 0 (Realtek RTL2832 (DVB-T))...
[ 17.205213] input: TerraTec Cinergy T Stick+ as /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1d.7/usb1/1-1/rc/rc0/input9
[ 17.205261] rc0: TerraTec Cinergy T Stick+ as /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1d.7/usb1/1-1/rc/rc0
[ 17.205270] usb 1-1: dvb_usb_v2: schedule remote query interval to 400 msecs
[ 17.216813] usb 1-1: dvb_usb_v2: 'TerraTec Cinergy T Stick+' successfully initialized and connected

The stick should be good to go.....for tv tuning. I know that there is also somekind radio chip inside it....but I know nothing about it. Probably RF tuner which could be useful for SDR usage. But as I told....I know nothing about RF tuners.

http://blog.palosaari.fi/search/label/SDR

EDIT ! I checked if the demodulator driver is in place. I remembered that rtl2832u needs combo drivers. Usb bridge driver which is the one I wrote above and it needs also the usual demodulator driver, called rtl2832.ko. And.....It was there. Now I wonder why the rtl2832 kernel module driver loading was not in the dmesg kernel messages list. I think it should have been loaded also.

EDIT2. This is not easy. Now I found the describing page:
http://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/T ... T_Stick%2B
It claims that it uses rtl2830.ko module
And the example shows that the loading of demodulator module is not shown in kernel messages. Well....I have rtl2830.ko module included.
I have to say that these RTL2832U based chips are difficult to follow.

Conclusion: It should be good to go. Hopefully. I really havent got any feedback of this new support for these RTL2832U chips. Previously, only patched unofficial module worked.