Precise Puppy 5.7.1

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#141 Post by OscarTalks »

Question(s) for BarryK

Precise Puppy has 2 instances of gtkdialog

There is gtkdialog in /usr/bin which is a symlink to gtkdialog4 in /usr/bin AND there is gtkdialog in /usr/sbin which is a symlink to gtkdialog3 in /usr/sbin

Console reports version number as 0.8.3

Zigbert's latest pMusic and pBurn require a more recent gtkdialog which is numbered 0.8.4r514

Would it be OK to just have this latest gtkdialog as a file in either /usr/bin or /usr/sbin and have gtkdialog3 and gtkdialog4 as symlinks to that file or are there programs in Puppy which might still need the older gtkdialog (as gtkdialog3 or gtkdialog4)?

Also, do these files need to be in both locations (/usr/bin and /usr/sbin) and if so could they be symlinks from one to the other so everything just points to one real file?
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#142 Post by OscarTalks »

Here is pMusic 4.1.0 running in Precise Puppy 5.7.1
Dependency check looks OK
Needs gtkdialog-0.8.4r514 (see zigbert's post above).
Running as root - haven't tried as spot.

NOTE:- Precise Puppy has libav in place of ffmpeg
substitution is not recommended
pMusic is mainly developed on ffmpeg
some issues may arise because of this
but hopefully they will be minor.
I guess it is just a case of keeping a watchful eye
and report any issues to zigbert
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disk drives icons

#143 Post by rodin.s »

I have noticed one small bug with disk drives icons. I have USB-flash which is formated to have two partitions (by BootFlash, USB-ZIP mode). Precise-5.7.1 (and Slacko-5.5.71) show only first partition when flash is hot-plugged and both partitions when flash is present at the boot time. It's Ok in Precise-5.4.2. I know, there were some changes in disk drives icons scripts.
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#144 Post by zigbert »

OscarTalks
Thank you for testing, feedback and info.

And Yes, - please post any issues in the pMusic thread. I am not scanning the entire forum.


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#145 Post by OscarTalks »

Here is pBurn 4.0.4 running in Precise Puppy 5.7.1
Again, needs gtkdialog-0.8.4r514 (see zigbert's post a few above)

Also needs cdrtools-3 (it is version 3.01a16) which I compiled from source in Precise Puppy 5.7.1 and am attaching below.

This is for testing purposes. Install at your own risk. If anyone knows of any problems which installing this package causes, please do speak up. It may be perfectly OK though, don't know.

Dependency check looks OK

Again, remember, Precise Puppy has libav in place of ffmpeg

With Datafilehost you need the small grey "DOWNLOAD" button for direct download.

cdrtools-3.01a16 Precise .PET
download = http://www1.datafilehost.com/d/b6384be8
md5sum = 164abdddae8f204a43e32cbb106e8001

cdrtools_DEV-3.01a16 Precise .PET
download = http://www1.datafilehost.com/d/7cecefea
md5sum = 3997bdb7507d7dc65166504e073a51f9
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Optional DOC files cdrtools-3 - Main and DEV via Datafilehost above
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pBurn 4.0.4 looking good in Precise 5.7.1
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#146 Post by Sylvander »

As above...
Installed:
pmusic-4.1.0.pet
pburn-4.0.4.pet [from HERE]
cdrtools-3.01a16-precise.pet
gtkdialog-precise-0.8.4r514.pet

All installed OK, and appear to be working OK, but....
When I check pmusic & pburn in "Check dependencies", I get the following missing dependency reported for each:
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Precise 5.7.1 Retro not booting on K6-2 500

#147 Post by Jades »

I'm getting a kernel panic at the switch root stage on the K6-2 500 with Precise Puppy 5.7.1. Explicitly chose pfix=ram boot. I have checked md5sum for iso, successfully booted from the disc on another PC and copied the files off the disc successfully. Probably incompatibility with the CPU, which is odd given the release notes say it should be i486 compatible (K6-2 500 is i586). See attached photo for debug info.

Looks like I'm sticking with Wary 5.5 again.

Edit: Just noticed that the Trace in the debug info is remarkably similar to the kernel panic I had on the same machine when I was testing Precise 5.6.1.
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Zhaan - AMD K6 2 500, 512MB RAM, ATI Rage 128 VR. Full install Wary 5.5 [url=http://tinyurl.com/dy66kh8]HardInfo Report[/url]
Merlin - Core i5-4590, 8GB RAM, Radeon R9 270X. Slacko 5.7.0

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#148 Post by Sylvander »

PROBLEM! :(
Since applying the changes above...
Each of "SaveMyModem" [smm], and Thunderbird, are unable to fetch from my POP3 server.
I'll try rebooting without saving the changes, and see if that returns things to their previous working state.

That worked!
Things now back to their previous [working/functional] state.

Actually...
What I'd done in full was:
1. Previously used a 2nd Puppy to delete the new pupsave, and restore the old pupsave.
That fixed the problem.
Then...

2. Once again installed the various PET's as above.
That re-created the problem.
Then...

3. Re-booted without any save of the session changes.
That eliminated the problem.

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#149 Post by OscarTalks »

Hello Sylvander,

Regarding the dependencies, I was looking mainly at the dependency check in the "help" menus of pMusic and pBurn. On my machine if I run the Puppy dependency checker I only get core-utils reported as missing. I wonder if you have other programs installed which are generating the other missing dependencies you are seeing?

I need to ask zigbert about this, but the core-utils missing dependency report happens because "+core-utils," is listed as a dependency in the pet.specs file in the pBurn .pet and I may be completely wrong about this but I thought I read somewhere that busybox provides the core-utils files in Puppy which means that no package named core-utils is installed. Anyway, if I expand the .pet and remove the "+core-utils," from the pet.specs file the dependency checker (obviously) no longer reports it as missing. Hopefully zigbert can confirm that all the needed files for pBurn are actually present.

LATER :- Just looking at installed packages it seems we do have coreutils (without the dash) but not core-utils so maybe I am wrong about busybox, perhaps it is just that the name in the pet.specs file just needs the dash removed.

As for the other problem, it is difficult for me to try to reproduce it because I have never used POP3 or the programs you mentioned. Perhaps you can confirm by elimination that it is the cdrtools-3 package that is causing the problem? I did have concerns about it because it is overwriting existing files from the old packages (of cdrkit, I think?). If it is this package that is causing the problem there are a couple of ideas I could try, but after that I may need to leave this task to someone with more experience than me.
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#150 Post by zigbert »

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dash is removed in pBurn pet.specs for next release.


Thank you
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#151 Post by Sylvander »

OscarTalks wrote:Perhaps you can confirm by elimination that it is the cdrtools-3 package that is causing the problem?
I can confirm this to be so.
Just now I installed:
pmusic-4.1.0.pet
pburn-4.0.4.pet
gtkdialog-precise-0.8.4r514.pet

But NOT:
cdrtools-3.01a16-precise.pet

And each of smm and Thunderbird are working just fine after doing this.

I'll now reboot without saving these session changes.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Back after reboot.
The installed programs are now gone [e.g. from "Check dependencies"], and as expected, smm and TB both remain functional.

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Precise 5.7.1 and mounting using YASSM/PNETHOOD

#152 Post by simes »

Hi, I installed 5.7.1 today and like it. It's clean, appealing to look at, fast - in fact all I expect from a new Puppy release. One of the first things I do with any new op.sys. image is mount my fileserver which is a LinkSys NSLU2 ("Slug") working as a Samba server. On 5.7.1, both YASSM and PNETHOOD can see the server but both fail to mount it - YASSM giving the message "No connection to fileserver!". I tried using the mount -t cifs command and this fails with mount error 5. A bit of Googling suggested adding the option "sec=ntlm" to the mount command options and this worked. I think YASSM/PNETHOOD may need to be modified similarly.

(The option sec=ntlm specifies the type of password hashing to be used when passing the password to the file server. "ntlm" used to be the default. I guess that in the latest kernel(s), it is no longer the default so must be specified explicitly.)

For anyone else who needs the workaround, the form of the mount command to mount a Samba share is

mount -t cifs //IP address/sharename -o sec=ntlm,username=yourname,password=yourpassword /root/mountpoint

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Precise Puppy 5.7.1

#153 Post by Billtoo »

Manual frugal install to a 32gb SDHC card, running on an Acer Aspire
7740G laptop pc.
video-info-glx 1.5.3 Mon 5 Aug 2013 on Precise Puppy 5.7.1 Linux 3.9.11 i686
0.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI Manhattan
[Mobility Radeon HD 5400 Series]
oem: ATI ATOMBIOS
product: PARK 01.00
X Server: Xorg Driver: fglrx
X.Org version: 1.11.3
dimensions: 3520x1080 pixels (931x285 millimeters)
depth of root window: 24 planes
direct rendering: Yes
server glx vendor string: ATI
server glx version string: 1.4
OpenGL vendor string: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc.
OpenGL renderer string: ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5400 Series
OpenGL version string: 4.2.12217 Compatibility Profile Context 12.104
# glxgears
15057 frames in 5.0 seconds = 3011.246 FPS
13689 frames in 5.0 seconds = 2737.769 FPS
15779 frames in 5.0 seconds = 3155.709 FPS
#
Intel(R) Core(TM) i5 CPU M 430 @ 2.27GHz
Core 0: @1199 1: @1199 2: @1199 3: @1199 MHz
Memory 4005MB (417MB used)
Atheros Communications Inc.AR928X Wireless Network Adapter(PCI-Express)(rev 01)

I installed the proprietary ati driver and have the laptop connected
to a lcd monitor with a hdmi cable.
It's working great so far.
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Re: Precise 5.7.1 and mounting using YASSM/PNETHOOD

#154 Post by rcrsn51 »

simes wrote: A bit of Googling suggested adding the option "sec=ntlm" to the mount command options and this worked. I think YASSM/PNETHOOD may need to be modified similarly.
This issue is discussed in the YASSM Help. Just add "sec=ntlm" to the Options line and save your settings.

The problem only occurs in a few legacy situations, so there is no need to modify YASSM.

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#155 Post by OscarTalks »

Sylvander,

First suggestion.
Zigbert states that from the package cdrtools-3,
pBurn only requires cdda2wav / cdrecord / mkisofs
So can we cut down the package to just include those 3 binary files?

In Precise Puppy:-
cdda2wav is a symlink to icedax
cdrecord is a symlink to wodim
mkisofs is a symlink to genisoimage

If we replace those with the three cdrtools-3 files
but leave the other files NOT upgraded
maybe we satisfy the dependencies of pBurn
without affecting the functionality of other programs.

cdrtools-3.01a16-cut-precise .PET
download = http://www1.datafilehost.com/d/8d32fe59
md5sum = 2246b8a749c8e50e67e8a00a0553548c
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#156 Post by Sylvander »

@OscarTalks
1. "Zigbert states that from the package cdrtools-3,
pBurn only requires cdda2wav / cdrecord / mkisofs
So can we cut down the package to just include those 3 binary files?

Am I correct in thinking you are about to explain how to do this?

2. "In Precise Puppy:-
cdda2wav is a symlink to icedax
cdrecord is a symlink to wodim
mkisofs is a symlink to genisoimage

I believe I understand what you are saying here.

3. "If we replace those with the three cdrtools-3 files
but leave the other files NOT upgraded
maybe we satisfy the dependencies of pBurn
without affecting the functionality of other programs.

Not sure I understand what you are trying to convey.
I guesss you intend to replace the 3 original files with 3 new files, right?

4. "cdrtools-3.01a16-cut-precise .PET
Does this PET file do that job when installed?

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Quick test report (desktop pc)

#157 Post by FeodorF »

Operating System: Precise Puppy - 5.7.1
Kernel Version: Linux 3.9.11 (i686)
Date/Time: Tue 06 Aug 2013 10:51:58 AM GMT-1

Processor: AMD Duron 850 MHz
Memory: 968MB (114MB used)
Board: ECS M810DLU, BIOS 07.00T 04/02/01

Display Resolution: 1600x900 pixels
Chipset: SiS 740 AGP 128 MB
OpenGL: SiS, Gallium 0.4 on softpipe

Audio Adapter: ICH-SiS SI7012

Hard disk: ATA WDC WD5000AADS-0
CD-RW: LITE-ON LTR-48246K
-----------------------------------------
Tested: 'frugal' install on hard disk - runs fast!
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#158 Post by OscarTalks »

Sylvander,

Yes, the stuff I wrote is the explanatory preamble and the .pet just installs those three files but not the full package.

As a test, if you find that installing it creates your problem, and removing it removes the problem again, then we know that it is those needed (for pBurn) files that are causing the problem with your other programs.

I am still curious to know what other packages you have installed though, and if you have managed to track down where those other reported missing dependencies were arising from, because if we have several variables and unknowns it makes it more complicated to investigate these things, especially since I am unable to reproduce the problem locally.
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#159 Post by Sylvander »

@OscarTalks
SUCCESS!
1. Installed the 3 previously mentioned files, plus your new cdrtools-3.01a16-cut-precise.pet, and I can still access and download from my POP3 server using smm & Thunderbird.

2. "I am still curious to know what other packages you have installed though, and if you have managed to track down where those other reported missing dependencies were arising from"
a. Don't know how to track down where the other missing dependencies are arising [they're still being listed].

b. How best to list/show all additionally installed packages?
I'll give screenshots below of the [total content of the] "Check dependencies" window:
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Quick test report (desktop pc)

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Operating System: Precise Puppy - 5.7.1
Kernel Version: Linux 3.9.11 (i686)
Date/Time: Tue 06 Aug 2013 01:05:43 PM GMT-1

Processor: Pentium II 266 MHz (Deschutes)
Memory: 773MB (94MB used)
Board: MICRO-STAR International MS-6117 (i440LX), BIOS 4.51 PG 07/29/98

Display Resolution: 1280x800 pixels
AGP Controller: ATI 3D Rage IIC (rev 3a) 16MB
OpenGL: mach64, Gallium 0.4 on softpipe

Audio Adapter: CMI8738-MC6 C-Media CMI8738

Input Device: LITEON Technology USB Multimedia Keyboard
Input Device: Logitech USB Optical Mouse

eth0: 3Com PCI 3c905B Cyclone 100baseTx

CDROM: HL-DT-ST CD-ROM GCR-8520B
usbdrv: vfat 8GB stick
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Usable with SeaMonkey even in 2013 - great!
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