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Sylvander

Joined: 15 Dec 2008
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Location: West Lothian, Scotland, UK

PostPosted: Mon 05 Aug 2013, 14:24    Post subject:  

OscarTalks wrote:
Perhaps you can confirm by elimination that it is the cdrtools-3 package that is causing the problem?

I can confirm this to be so.
Just now I installed:
pmusic-4.1.0.pet
pburn-4.0.4.pet
gtkdialog-precise-0.8.4r514.pet

But NOT:
cdrtools-3.01a16-precise.pet

And each of smm and Thunderbird are working just fine after doing this.

I'll now reboot without saving these session changes.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Back after reboot.
The installed programs are now gone [e.g. from "Check dependencies"], and as expected, smm and TB both remain functional.
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simes

Joined: 29 Sep 2007
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Location: Cheshire, UK

PostPosted: Mon 05 Aug 2013, 14:35    Post subject: Precise 5.7.1 and mounting using YASSM/PNETHOOD  

Hi, I installed 5.7.1 today and like it. It's clean, appealing to look at, fast - in fact all I expect from a new Puppy release. One of the first things I do with any new op.sys. image is mount my fileserver which is a LinkSys NSLU2 ("Slug") working as a Samba server. On 5.7.1, both YASSM and PNETHOOD can see the server but both fail to mount it - YASSM giving the message "No connection to fileserver!". I tried using the mount -t cifs command and this fails with mount error 5. A bit of Googling suggested adding the option "sec=ntlm" to the mount command options and this worked. I think YASSM/PNETHOOD may need to be modified similarly.

(The option sec=ntlm specifies the type of password hashing to be used when passing the password to the file server. "ntlm" used to be the default. I guess that in the latest kernel(s), it is no longer the default so must be specified explicitly.)

For anyone else who needs the workaround, the form of the mount command to mount a Samba share is

mount -t cifs //IP address/sharename -o sec=ntlm,username=yourname,password=yourpassword /root/mountpoint
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Billtoo


Joined: 07 Apr 2009
Posts: 2097
Location: Ontario Canada

PostPosted: Mon 05 Aug 2013, 15:23    Post subject: Precise Puppy 5.7.1  

Manual frugal install to a 32gb SDHC card, running on an Acer Aspire
7740G laptop pc.
video-info-glx 1.5.3 Mon 5 Aug 2013 on Precise Puppy 5.7.1 Linux 3.9.11 i686
0.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI Manhattan
[Mobility Radeon HD 5400 Series]
oem: ATI ATOMBIOS
product: PARK 01.00
X Server: Xorg Driver: fglrx
X.Org version: 1.11.3
dimensions: 3520x1080 pixels (931x285 millimeters)
depth of root window: 24 planes
direct rendering: Yes
server glx vendor string: ATI
server glx version string: 1.4
OpenGL vendor string: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc.
OpenGL renderer string: ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5400 Series
OpenGL version string: 4.2.12217 Compatibility Profile Context 12.104
# glxgears
15057 frames in 5.0 seconds = 3011.246 FPS
13689 frames in 5.0 seconds = 2737.769 FPS
15779 frames in 5.0 seconds = 3155.709 FPS
#
Intel(R) Core(TM) i5 CPU M 430 @ 2.27GHz
Core 0: @1199 1: @1199 2: @1199 3: @1199 MHz
Memory 4005MB (417MB used)
Atheros Communications Inc.AR928X Wireless Network Adapter(PCI-Express)(rev 01)

I installed the proprietary ati driver and have the laptop connected
to a lcd monitor with a hdmi cable.
It's working great so far.
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rcrsn51


Joined: 05 Sep 2006
Posts: 9110
Location: Stratford, Ontario

PostPosted: Mon 05 Aug 2013, 16:03    Post subject: Re: Precise 5.7.1 and mounting using YASSM/PNETHOOD  

simes wrote:
A bit of Googling suggested adding the option "sec=ntlm" to the mount command options and this worked. I think YASSM/PNETHOOD may need to be modified similarly.

This issue is discussed in the YASSM Help. Just add "sec=ntlm" to the Options line and save your settings.

The problem only occurs in a few legacy situations, so there is no need to modify YASSM.
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OscarTalks

Joined: 05 Feb 2012
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Location: London, England

PostPosted: Mon 05 Aug 2013, 17:06    Post subject:  

Sylvander,

First suggestion.
Zigbert states that from the package cdrtools-3,
pBurn only requires cdda2wav / cdrecord / mkisofs
So can we cut down the package to just include those 3 binary files?

In Precise Puppy:-
cdda2wav is a symlink to icedax
cdrecord is a symlink to wodim
mkisofs is a symlink to genisoimage

If we replace those with the three cdrtools-3 files
but leave the other files NOT upgraded
maybe we satisfy the dependencies of pBurn
without affecting the functionality of other programs.

cdrtools-3.01a16-cut-precise .PET
download = http://www1.datafilehost.com/d/8d32fe59
md5sum = 2246b8a749c8e50e67e8a00a0553548c

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Sylvander

Joined: 15 Dec 2008
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Location: West Lothian, Scotland, UK

PostPosted: Tue 06 Aug 2013, 02:09    Post subject:  

@OscarTalks
1. "Zigbert states that from the package cdrtools-3,
pBurn only requires cdda2wav / cdrecord / mkisofs
So can we cut down the package to just include those 3 binary files?

Am I correct in thinking you are about to explain how to do this?

2. "In Precise Puppy:-
cdda2wav is a symlink to icedax
cdrecord is a symlink to wodim
mkisofs is a symlink to genisoimage

I believe I understand what you are saying here.

3. "If we replace those with the three cdrtools-3 files
but leave the other files NOT upgraded
maybe we satisfy the dependencies of pBurn
without affecting the functionality of other programs.

Not sure I understand what you are trying to convey.
I guesss you intend to replace the 3 original files with 3 new files, right?

4. "cdrtools-3.01a16-cut-precise .PET
Does this PET file do that job when installed?
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FeodorF


Joined: 07 Jul 2010
Posts: 173
Location: Heidelberg, Germany

PostPosted: Tue 06 Aug 2013, 05:24    Post subject: Quick test report (desktop pc)  

Operating System: Precise Puppy - 5.7.1
Kernel Version: Linux 3.9.11 (i686)
Date/Time: Tue 06 Aug 2013 10:51:58 AM GMT-1

Processor: AMD Duron 850 MHz
Memory: 968MB (114MB used)
Board: ECS M810DLU, BIOS 07.00T 04/02/01

Display Resolution: 1600x900 pixels
Chipset: SiS 740 AGP 128 MB
OpenGL: SiS, Gallium 0.4 on softpipe

Audio Adapter: ICH-SiS SI7012

Hard disk: ATA WDC WD5000AADS-0
CD-RW: LITE-ON LTR-48246K
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Tested: 'frugal' install on hard disk - runs fast!

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OscarTalks

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Location: London, England

PostPosted: Tue 06 Aug 2013, 05:35    Post subject:  

Sylvander,

Yes, the stuff I wrote is the explanatory preamble and the .pet just installs those three files but not the full package.

As a test, if you find that installing it creates your problem, and removing it removes the problem again, then we know that it is those needed (for pBurn) files that are causing the problem with your other programs.

I am still curious to know what other packages you have installed though, and if you have managed to track down where those other reported missing dependencies were arising from, because if we have several variables and unknowns it makes it more complicated to investigate these things, especially since I am unable to reproduce the problem locally.

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Sylvander

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PostPosted: Tue 06 Aug 2013, 06:24    Post subject:  

@OscarTalks
SUCCESS!
1. Installed the 3 previously mentioned files, plus your new cdrtools-3.01a16-cut-precise.pet, and I can still access and download from my POP3 server using smm & Thunderbird.

2. "I am still curious to know what other packages you have installed though, and if you have managed to track down where those other reported missing dependencies were arising from"
a. Don't know how to track down where the other missing dependencies are arising [they're still being listed].

b. How best to list/show all additionally installed packages?
I'll give screenshots below of the [total content of the] "Check dependencies" window:
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FeodorF


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Location: Heidelberg, Germany

PostPosted: Tue 06 Aug 2013, 07:47    Post subject: Quick test report (desktop pc)  

Operating System: Precise Puppy - 5.7.1
Kernel Version: Linux 3.9.11 (i686)
Date/Time: Tue 06 Aug 2013 01:05:43 PM GMT-1

Processor: Pentium II 266 MHz (Deschutes)
Memory: 773MB (94MB used)
Board: MICRO-STAR International MS-6117 (i440LX), BIOS 4.51 PG 07/29/98

Display Resolution: 1280x800 pixels
AGP Controller: ATI 3D Rage IIC (rev 3a) 16MB
OpenGL: mach64, Gallium 0.4 on softpipe

Audio Adapter: CMI8738-MC6 C-Media CMI8738

Input Device: LITEON Technology USB Multimedia Keyboard
Input Device: Logitech USB Optical Mouse

eth0: 3Com PCI 3c905B Cyclone 100baseTx

CDROM: HL-DT-ST CD-ROM GCR-8520B
usbdrv: vfat 8GB stick
---------------------------------------------------------
Usable with SeaMonkey even in 2013 - great!

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OscarTalks

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Location: London, England

PostPosted: Tue 06 Aug 2013, 08:39    Post subject:  

Sylvander,

OK, so IF pBurn is definitely fully functional and nothing is getting broken then that looks like the way forward for anyone wanting to run the latest pBurn in Precise Puppy, at least for now. We are just installing a "custom" version of cdrtools-3 which installs only the needed files for our specific purpose. I guess at some point if BarryK decides to include cdrtools-3 he will sort it all out.

You do have quite a bundle of stuff installed. I was going to suggest booting pfix=ram and installing them one by one to see which were missing dependencies but that might take a few minutes. Perhaps someone can suggest a quicker way. Anyway, I guess the thing to do is (ignoring "core-utils") see if you can find and install missing dependencies via ppm or packages.ubuntu.com or something, but if everything is working then no urgency I suppose.

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Sylvander

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PostPosted: Tue 06 Aug 2013, 08:49    Post subject:  

@OscarTalks
1. OUCH! Spoke too soon.
a. After installing cdrtools-3.01a16-cut-precise.pet, and manually saving the change...
I tested smm & TB, and both were working OK.
Then I rebooted back into Precise-5.7.1, and smm & TB were still working OK, and I reported that here in my above post.

b. Then I shutdown, and did other things.
Then came back and booted into Precise-5.7.1.
Used smm, which worked OK.
Used TB, and it was UNABLE to connect to the POP3 server.
So...

c. I used a 2nd Puppy to delete the precisesave file, and replace it with the backup copy made prior to making the changes/installations.
i.e. Now none of the 4 files are installed.

d. Hmmm...
Having restored a known good backup of the precisesave...
And booted into Precise-5.7.1...
I found that smm was failing to connect to the POP3 server. Confused
But acting on a hunch...
I rebooted into Slacko-5.3.3.1...
Used smm there, and it connected OK, and said there was no mail [all mail previously fetched, and no new mail].
TB also worked and showed no mail.
SO....
Rebooted back into Precise-5.7.1...
Tried smm, and found that it was now functioning normally.
Don't know why I figured that might work [perhaps my subconscious knows what my conscious mind doesn't]...
But it did the job.
Any idea why? Confused
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ahoppin

Joined: 16 May 2011
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PostPosted: Tue 06 Aug 2013, 13:22    Post subject:  

Precise 5.7.1's Pnethood won't connect to Windows or Samba shares.

Pnethood also doesn't work in Precise 5.6.1.

For every machine I try to connect to - Lucid Puppy 5.25 with Samba, Windows 2000, even Windows 98 - I get the message "Mount: <MACHINE_NAME> <sharename> failed. The server may be refusing you access to this share or your password may be incorrect. Please hit the <sharename> disconnect button to reset the display."

Pnethood fails for EVERY machine on my home net, whether it's running Puppy or Windows.

I tried the console command suggested by simes above. For the C drive on machine PIPKIN I used:

mount -t cifs /192.168.1.155/C -o sec=ntim,username=username,password=password /mnt/network/PIPKIN

It returns "mount error 22 - invalid argument."

Pnethood still works fine in Lucid. How can I get it to work in Precise? I was about to upgrade to Precise, but this problem has put the brakes on the upgrade.

Thanks.
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Sylvander

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PostPosted: Tue 06 Aug 2013, 14:42    Post subject:  

1. Hmmm...
Now experiencing a strange situation.
a. In Precise-5.7.1, neither smm nor TB is able to connect to the POP3 server.

b. If I then reboot into Slacko-5.3.3.1, both smm and TB WILL connect to the POP3 server and fetch.

c. If I then reboot back to Precise-5.7.1, both smm & TB will connect to the POP3 server and fetch.

d. I'm guessing that if I then reboot Precise-5.7.1, neither smm nor TB will be able to connect to the POP3 server.
I'll check whether that's so, and report back.
No, I'm wrong in thinking that, they still work OK after reboot.
I don't know what's going on. Confused
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PostPosted: Tue 06 Aug 2013, 15:43    Post subject:  

ahoppin wrote:
sec=ntim.
It's ntlm not ntim
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