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Afterstep 2.2.8
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puppyluvr


Joined: 06 Jan 2008
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Location: Chickasha Oklahoma

PostPosted: Sat 15 Nov 2008, 14:24    Post subject:  

Very Happy Eyes-Only,
Yes, Afterstep makes for a pretty desktop, and is very "all inclusive" in that is even has its own backgrouds, icons, ect..
Yes, it is a real estate hog..I need to figure out how to configure it to place the modules, (Pager, Warf, ect) below active windows. and where I want them..And pare down the virtual desktops, as 16 is overkill..
I wanted to .Pet it so we can play with it and see what it can do..At 13mb, its not really "Puppy approved" as far as size, but could be shrunk down some still..( Docs, SRC, ect..)
But the current .Pet will work for experimentation..I think we should try as many new things on Puppy as we can, as we might find a jewel in the rockpile... (For example, why had no-one made an XScreensavers.pet till I did, as it seems an obvious choice!)
The modules can be turned off at will, recovering screen area, and the WM can be run without them, making it very minimalist..But the menus need converting for that to be very useful..I`ll play with it as I get time...Right now Im still working on an E-16/Wbar/Gdesklets Pup, but after some configuration and testing, I may make an Afterstep Puplet as well...
Thanks for trying it, I hope all enjoy it, and post any findings/suggestions here....

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Colonel Panic


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PostPosted: Sat 15 Nov 2008, 20:21    Post subject:  

Thanks for the tip about ROX-Desktop, which I'm using now to create iconified windows. ROX is a good desktop by and large, the only problem I find is that the file management windows resize apparently at random as you navigate through them.
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PostPosted: Sat 15 Nov 2008, 20:34    Post subject:  

Very Happy Colonel Panic,
Quote:
ROX is a good desktop by and large, the only problem I find is that the file management windows resize apparently at random as you navigate through them.


In the same ROX-Filer Options menu, click Filer windows....
Lots of settings there.....

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PostPosted: Sat 15 Nov 2008, 20:36    Post subject:  

Colonel Panic wrote:
Thanks for the tip about ROX-Desktop, which I'm using now to create iconified windows. ROX is a good desktop by and large, the only problem I find is that the file management windows resize apparently at random as you navigate through them.

Right click any Rox window and choose Options>Filer Windows and you will find the option to turn off automatic resizing of windows.

Hope that helps.

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PostPosted: Sun 16 Nov 2008, 01:04    Post subject:  

Very Happy Wow!!





Wow, great mids think alike...LOL....
Within 2 minutes...
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Eyes-Only


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Location: La Confederation Abenaquaise

PostPosted: Sun 16 Nov 2008, 11:55    Post subject:  

I see you found the "NASA Theme" a friend of mine made for Firefox eh PuppyLover? Wink Awesome theme. I used to run that a lot myself. However, I use SeaMonkey the most (even before coming to Puppy) and so I mainly use either a theme or two by my friend "Incognu" or "Cat Thief" (the latter made "Mostly Crystal").

Anywho, you've been saying here several times in your thread about how AfterStep's "menus have needed changing over to Puppy's", and I guess I don't get what you're saying here? On my 4.0 where I installed AfterStep it did take on the full Puppy menu system. Are you saying yours didn't?

If it didn't do so I'm wondering if the fact that I had installed WindowMaker back a few months ago had anything to do with it as it came with the XDG_menu building files and it seems to have placed a bunch of "menu files" under ".GNUStep" in /root I see when taking a cursory glance there. I couldn't right now tell anything more without delving deeper.

I've just kinda found it odd you've been mentioning this whilst I have a fully-operational menu system is all?

I hope this helps you in some small way?

Amicalement/Cheers,

Eyes-Only
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PostPosted: Sun 16 Nov 2008, 12:48    Post subject:  

I installed the .pet, but I don't see any new menu or anything different (also tried rebooting), what am I doing wrong?
Puppy 411 retro, also tried it on WNOP 4.1.
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PostPosted: Sun 16 Nov 2008, 14:55    Post subject:  

Very Happy Hello,
After installing the Pet, drop out of X (hit:CTRL / ALT / BKSPCE)
At the prompt (#) type:

xwin afterstep

and hit enter..
Puppy will boot into the Afterstep Window Manager
To show the root desktop, and enable the Afterstep backgrounds ect..
Turn off the ROX pinboard..
Open a console, (rxvt) and type:

rox -p=

and hit enter
To turn the pinboard back on , open rxvt and type:

rox -p /root/Choices/ROX-Filer/PuppyPin

and hit enter....

To return to jwm or icewm, drop out of X and type:

xwin jwm..........(or icewm, ect....)

and hit enter..
Hope this helps......
Also, the above can be cut-n-pasted into scripts for convenience, I call mine "roxon" and "roxoff"... Cool
Jay.....

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PostPosted: Mon 17 Nov 2008, 07:52    Post subject:  

Thanks to you both (including WhoDo) for the very useful information. I've made the necessary changes to Rox's options now, it's very flexible and there's a lot to learn about it.
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PostPosted: Mon 17 Nov 2008, 08:14    Post subject:  

puppyluvr: Thank you!
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Location: the Western Reserve

PostPosted: Thu 15 Jan 2009, 19:19    Post subject:
Subject description: AS .. (slight reprise)
 

Smile Not lite but full-flavored 'drinkability' - and yes, the docs add some (btw, I totally approve of local documentation since most raw recruits have experience not-so-good with guessing at times .. and AS may be fairly 'touchy' as far as mausing goes). Mmm, yes it does tend to start better from blackbox than jwm (yah, to do with killing the pinboard and/or driveicons or assorted jwm-stuff that's been poked in at various places). Just did a fresh add of it to a P412 retro CD (and it did not creak and groan like an EZ deal I tried once, lol) and it still survives on a somewhat corrupted frugal of P411standard (ouch, I got bit while flailing with another 411 deriv and sfssss and guessing wrong whilst cool advanced scripts were creating stale nfs handle things unbeknownst to moi;' `til I returned and had to deal with my ignorance and flailing) Anyhow, I should get back to reading that gr8 documentation and here's a try at embedding a shortdraft jpg-pic w/ some flecks in the head(;

(750ml of [pnghere).
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PostPosted: Wed 04 Mar 2009, 18:02    Post subject:  
Subject description: bounding
 

Yep, AS (puppyluvr's dotpet) in P4.20-rc1 ..

One of the more interesting facets of having a 4-page virtual desktop (or two or three or four, not really "overkill" if one considers how easy it is to navigate them and how AS organizes windows) - with spanning and a 2 by 2 array, a 1024x768 display becomes effectively a 2048x1536 piece of real estate for each virtual desktop. Now that may just be of interest to notebooks or laptops with a smallish display . . . here's an embed of my pager with 2 virtual desks and some stuff on 'em



full-size @~670kb here if you like Orion - hey, the original jpg on that's 6k square, might be a stretch to make it work as a full 4-page wallpaper, or quarter it and do a section for each desk .. hmmz "DANGER, Will Robinson" Smile
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PostPosted: Wed 04 Mar 2009, 20:24    Post subject:  

I've just discovered that it's possible to turn off the AfterStep modules from the menu, which solves the problem of restricted desktop space I mentioned above.
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musher0


Joined: 04 Jan 2009
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Location: Gatineau (Qc), Canada

PostPosted: Thu 15 Aug 2013, 09:57    Post subject:
Subject description: AfterStep version 2.2.12
 

Hello, people.

AfterStep version 2.2.12 was published last June. I compiled it and made a pet of it,
available here : http://limelinx.com/bavy0 I compiled it on wary 5.5, but it should
work on other Puppies since it does not rely heavily on outside libraries. Please let us know.

At 13 Mg (32 Mg installed), it's a big application, but the result and originality of the feel are
worth it. (See attached picture.)

Enjoy!

musher0
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PostPosted: Thu 15 Aug 2013, 12:57    Post subject:  

Just installed it now, thanks for the pet! AfterStep is one of my favourite WMs.
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