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mikeb


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PostPosted: Wed 21 Aug 2013, 06:43    Post subject:  

Hmm well I do remember having fun with such as mencoder guis and so on. Then there's linux mutations to deal with where last weeks function syntax get reversed for no reason and /sys folders get moved lol.

Now why have my pepper plants not produced peppers?
Give me a tall ship and a sea to sail on.... actually a small boat will do since I know nothing about sail usage.

So did I accidentally but successfully hijack your topic in the end ? Very Happy

regards

Mike
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sunburnt


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PostPosted: Wed 21 Aug 2013, 13:35    Post subject:  

Depending on other`s work is always a scary scenario. I know that well.

What part of the world do you live in? Pepper plants are picky.

To me the most interesting part of any thread is when the subject is exhausted.
Then interesting conversation usually takes place and the ideas begin to flow.
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mikeb


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PostPosted: Wed 21 Aug 2013, 21:23    Post subject:  

Actually chili pepper plants. In the past I have had a good crop grown on a windowsill.. These are in a poly greenhouse and have no peppers at all.. my frustration was fueled when I noticed this boat persons crop thriving ...the secret was the river water apparently.
Alternative explantion is that where we are is simply a place where plants (and people) do not thrive lol

Ideas hmm... they tend to come in phases followed by annoying others with them Very Happy

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amigo

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PostPosted: Thu 22 Aug 2013, 01:21    Post subject:  

Sometimes an excess of fertilizer will cause plants to not flower and bear fruit. Also, chile plants do not like low temps at night -under 18C or 55F.
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mikeb


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PostPosted: Thu 22 Aug 2013, 07:22    Post subject:  

Hmm general purpose compost and no added fertiliser. Not had colder nights for some time but perhaps the temperature swings of outside are not to their liking. Actually these were some packets of seeds that the children bought and most of them failed to germinate ... I have noticed poorer growth / fruiting from older seeds before so might be a factor though these were pretty recent date on them.

One gets attached though I have not tried talking to them..
One irk are sudden bursts of hot sunshine and resultant very upset seedlings...the greenhouse is a recent addition...I though a more controlled enviroment would be a good idea after the soggy cold previous summer....plus I have always wanted one Smile

The soil here is quite acidic/clay and I have got used to what prefers it ... the new guinea pig is building up a good stock of compost for next year though.

@sunburnt.... perhaps topic needs altering to Gardeners question time...

My fingers are not quite as green as I would like them to be.

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amigo

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PostPosted: Thu 22 Aug 2013, 10:33    Post subject:  

I've always had a green thumb, but this year has been so bad -my compost won't even rot.
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Karl Godt


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PostPosted: Thu 22 Aug 2013, 11:26    Post subject:  

http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paprika
Alle Paprikasorten sind mehrjährige Pflanzen, auch wenn der Name Capsicum annuum Einjährigkeit vermuten lässt. Der botanische Begriff bezieht sich nicht auf ein Kalenderjahr, sondern darauf, dass die Pflanze vom Keimen bis zur Samenreife keine Vegetationspausen einlegt.
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All peppers are perennial plants, even if the name suggests Capsicum annuum Einjährigkeit. The botanical term does not refer to a calendar year, but that the plant from germination to seed maturation inserts no vegetation breaks.

Because of License things some "humans" developed mutations of plants that develop blossom but no seed-fruit .

I would wait one or two years and if no bees around, hope the bugs will pollinate .
Probably that is a pepper-tree and such would probably take 10-20 years to blossom .
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mikeb


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PostPosted: Thu 22 Aug 2013, 12:02    Post subject:  

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Probably that is a pepper-tree and such would probably take 10-20 years to blossom .

that would be fun...... The joy of growing is finding the tomato plant that came from the cracks in the concrete from nowhere produces a great crop and the pampared/sown ones are put to shame Very Happy

Funny my compost never seems to rot either...I usually put whatever it becomes on the garden anyway and the worms do the rest

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Karl Godt


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PostPosted: Thu 22 Aug 2013, 13:19    Post subject:  

http://www.compostmountain.com/
Smile
Or it needs more wetness or weed .


About fruit trees : When I was young I only knew normal small cherry trees. Now I found some places where
Prunus avium is a deciduous tree growing to 15–32 m (50–100 ft) tall
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prunus_avium
grow . Needs scaffolding to harvest !!
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mikeb


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PostPosted: Thu 22 Aug 2013, 14:31    Post subject:  

Are you suggesting I use country and western bands to fertilise my soil... not sure if thats legal but at least it might liven up the neighbours.

As for cherry trees...yes.... one in france had its owner frantically trying to persuade the village to come and pick cherries..... helicopters recommended....man they tasted good though.
Ours are small and are sour cherries but the birds like them.

Dry compost...most likely...it can get dry here normally.

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mikeb


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PostPosted: Tue 27 Aug 2013, 17:29    Post subject:  

Hmm was playing with yad and kept getting an odd crash under certain circumstances. Turns out there was a memory allocation bug fix added slightly after the version I grabbed so I have merged it in. This affected the list box insofar as some character combinations causes a crash. The icon box seems to work now too Smile .
There is also a text box stdin handling improvement though unsure what that would affect...I suspect UTF8 handling but added just in case anyway.
I also made confirm delete for the file browser default so no --confirm-overwrite= parameter needed (ignored if you do ) unless you want to use custom text (oh fixed the default spelling too )
For anyone testing replace with this one for a happier life,
mike
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PostPosted: Thu 29 Aug 2013, 01:17    Post subject:  

Thanks Mike; I grabbed your update, and I hope the variant builders use it too.

As long as wrappers don`t change their command syntax all is well for us users.
But if like GTK and other base widget apps. keep changing their crap, it`s a pain.
The wrapper folks have to keep chasing their tails to keep their app. working.
I wouldn`t wish that on anyone. Need a universal GUI creation command set.
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mikeb


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PostPosted: Thu 29 Aug 2013, 07:30    Post subject:  

Well in response to a previous troll good software design means determining your command set / structure/ methods /syntax etc right at the beginning and then sticking with it... If now commands are added the original remain as a subset. Unix...intel... etc seem to get that one..

As contrary example microsoft deliberatly add dummy functions to break their older systems to push buying new ones even though the core systems has not really changed but in their case they stand to make megabucks....its a very effective way for them to trash an established system...they will do it to XP soon once its ended support time... wait until your next update won't install or run.....FOSS has what to gain by such behaviour?

By the way on that last point some software developers takes steps to undo that behaviour to keep their programs supporting a wide user base...others don't bother/care...a bit like web pages that only work on certain browsers... to me it shows a contempt towards the end user.

Ps just imagine being a sys admin with windows for that last one .. you might not even have it. Very Happy

Regular deprecation of functions shows disorganisation....and why not leave a handler in for such...not like this stuffs small is it.

hey has the gtk sucks thread moved?????? Very Happy


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PostPosted: Thu 29 Aug 2013, 10:24    Post subject:  

LOL Just what I was thinking...

Yes, by now it should be very apparent what`s required for defining GUIs.
So just setup a good command set ( I like Visual Basic`s: Window.Control.Property = ).
Adding commands doesn`t pose a problem, just don`t change existing commands.
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mikeb


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PostPosted: Thu 29 Aug 2013, 11:02    Post subject:  

hmm well perhaps one interest in such as yad is to have a gui widget that buffers the user from core api changes. gtkdialog seem to throw in syntax changes with each major release too. One puppyism is the use of bash scripts in abundance as alternative to bloated system control and binary interfaces that the likes of kde and gnome use. Indeed I have taken much of that approach over to slax and the results was rather neat. Its also of course pretty portable so no system is dependant on one particular windows manager and desktop. (puppies wireless wizard worked when the kde one failed for example so there are sometimes gains over and above size and speed and scripts are easier to fix)

A pile of useful scripts and the binaries to run them ... a toolkit for all.
perhaps the frustration with gtk2 is that it is a good choice for many reasons and very commonly employed by applications so an easier time when working with it would be welcome.

Coming back to yad I have yet to actually fully utilise it (ok did a quick one with the set time/date dialog)... i tend to have bursts of productivity... though I was doing some tests with dynamically updating lists for such as network shares/drive mounting and so on when I stumbled accross the problem I just fixed. If anything else crops up I will update...hey I might even start my own thread Very Happy
Hmm thinking about it over the years I have only started perhaps half a dozen threads... it must be a sign. Someone once accused me of only posting to increase my post count which of course is true...my huge ego needs constantly feeding Smile

well thats another brownie point

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