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Scooby

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PostPosted: Thu 22 Aug 2013, 08:41    Post subject:  

But theoretically you could run a version based on rolling arch that would work over some time right?

I don't wanna give up the Puppy/Arch/Openbox OS. I really like it.
Even if it means rolling release.

Would it be possible for you to take part in an advisory role regarding
such an endeavor?

Still I prefer if you would reconsider running AlphaOS as a rolling release, as you're the undisputed expert, until such a time the fixed date release problem is solved.

Stay calm, no rash decisions, stay in this project and see whats going to happen.
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simargl

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PostPosted: Fri 23 Aug 2013, 08:39    Post subject:  

I made new alphaos version with kernel-3.10.7, rebooted and everything seemed fine, except
my desktop resolution on boot was set to 640x480, instead of 1280x1024 as what it should be
and was in previous version.

Then I increased screen resolution with lxrandr and started thinking what could be cause of that
problem, xorg-server is still the same version, mesa has just made new bugfix release, so
what's left as possible cause was intel driver package xf86-video-intel.

So it turns out that problem was: when Arch developers upgraded xf86-video-intel package
from 2.21.13 to 2.21.14 they enabled option --with-default-accel=sna

https://projects.archlinux.org/svntogit/packages.git/commit/trunk/PKGBUILD?h=packages/xf86-video-intel&id=d03f5fb77df413017821f492aa81e5d68def7e48

I recompiled xf86-video-intel without that option and problem is solved, I don't know what advantage
accel=sna really brings( if any), just thought this example of detective work might be interesting.

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anikin

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PostPosted: Fri 23 Aug 2013, 09:37    Post subject:  

So Arch isn't too far behind Ubuntu in adoption of SNA accelaration:
http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTI3Nzk
Really, why not adopt, when someone has already done all the dirty work of testing:
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Testing/IntelSNA Smile
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PostPosted: Fri 23 Aug 2013, 09:47    Post subject:  

simargl wrote:

my desktop resolution on boot was set to 640x480, instead of 1280x1024 as what it should be and was in previous version.

I had this problem in alphaos9


simargl wrote:

I don't know what advantage
accel=sna really brings( if any)


For me, the sna option, relieves the problem of screen-tearing when watching video.
When in sna mode the option TearFree=true can be set.
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PostPosted: Fri 23 Aug 2013, 13:21    Post subject:  

Version 10.0
http://alphaos.tuxfamily.org/

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PostPosted: Fri 23 Aug 2013, 15:43    Post subject:  

https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=1315900#p1315900
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As @felixonmars said, we are now preparing to set up a new A.R.M service. I've searched but got nothing, so we finally started from scratch.

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smil99

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PostPosted: Fri 23 Aug 2013, 20:25    Post subject:  

Hi simargl,
Thanks for V10 with the various enhancements. Will give it a spin as soon after it is fully uploaded. It is also refreshing to note that frantic efforts are going on to revive ARM although it might end up with a different name.
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Just checked http://sourceforge.net/projects/alphaos/files/ after about 5 hours but V10 seems not to be uploaded yet. Latest version link points to something different. See below.
Quote:
Looking for the latest version? Download simple-radio-2013.07.tar.xz (8.3 kB)

Cheers.

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simargl

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PostPosted: Sat 24 Aug 2013, 02:10    Post subject:  

Iso is uploading at the moment, should finish in about an hour or less.

Looks like new A.R.M, or how will they call it is moving to China
http://repo-arm.archlinuxcn.org/
http://repo-arm-download.archlinuxcn.org/

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PostPosted: Sat 24 Aug 2013, 04:01    Post subject:  

Good to see you coming out of this crisis unscathed.

I checked out version 9, pretty cool. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sat 24 Aug 2013, 05:11    Post subject:  

O.K. thanks! Smile

Next crisis could be once when Arch developers drop support for i686 CPUs and focus on
64-bit exclusively, but I think now we can be optimistic about Arch community resolving
problem with A.R.M.

This is example for new users how can you use SFS modules instead of installing packages to your savefile.
Code:
makesfs smplayer flashplugin transmission-gtk gnutls filezilla


in /mnt/home you will have file smplayer_flashplugin_transmission-gtk_gnutls_filezilla.sfs

Then rename it to something shorter and click to load. Why is this my preferred way?
1) reduce disk space usage inside personal file
2) you can use same personal file later with newer versions, just need to make new module with applications you want

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Marv


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PostPosted: Sat 24 Aug 2013, 09:08    Post subject:  

Hoorah! Downloading now. My position on the 32b/64b line is currently to use fatdog on the 64b laptop where the 64b Opera is considerably snappier than the 32b one and use alphaOS on the older 32b laptops where Openbox, SpaceFM (without gvfs!), and a newer kernel really help efficiency.

Thanks for continuing with alphaOS,

Edited: Now posting from 10 using my savefile from 9. Perfect boot. All touchpad settings, numlock, acpid and suspend, cpu governor, wireless settings, EVERYTHING preserved. Came up running perfectly on this core 2 duo laptop with iwlwifi and i915 graphics. Very Happy Oh, Control center very clean and nice. I like it!

I make 2 tiny changes to menu, easily done with the menu editor in the control center. Rename Logout to Restart X, and add Control Center just above it.

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PostPosted: Sat 24 Aug 2013, 15:25    Post subject:  

That's great Marv. Smile Control Center is there to make easier access to other configuration programs without searching for them under the applications menu, and it was easy to make with Glade designer and Vala for callback methods.
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James C


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PostPosted: Sun 25 Aug 2013, 02:03    Post subject:  

Latest version working well here on an old P4 box.Been quietly following along and testing. Impressive work. Smile

Code:
[root@alphaos ~]# uname -r
3.10.7-ALPHAOS


Code:
[root@alphaos ~]# free
             total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached
Mem:       2585324     859904    1725420          0      74004     576504
-/+ buffers/cache:     209396    2375928
Swap:      4198396          0    4198396
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PostPosted: Sun 25 Aug 2013, 02:35    Post subject:  

I found this interesting tutorial : Cross-compile from Linux to Windows (Vala)
http://www.tarnyko.net/en/?q=node/15

Made some changes on how to install MinGW package, and added Wiki page
http://alphaos.tuxfamily.org/wiki/doku.php?id=home:tutorial:vala-cross-compile

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PostPosted: Sun 25 Aug 2013, 07:55    Post subject:  

Marv wrote:

Now posting from 10 using my savefile from 9.


Thansk for this tip, Now I also use savefile form 9 without friction.
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