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R-S-H

Joined: 18 Feb 2013
Posts: 490
PostPosted: Tue 11 Jun 2013, 04:11    Post subject:  
Hi oldyeller.

I've found a solution for another issue with the e17 window manager.

When having a huge number of menu entries (.desktop files, LazY Puppy has) -especially when symbolic links are in /urs/share/applications- in e17, it takes some time to get the menu categories under "Applications".

I have put a little script into /root/Startup:
Code:
# Get current used WM
CURRENTWM="`cat /etc/windowmanager`"
if [ "$CURRENTWM" = "enlightenment_start" ]; then
   sleep 2 # you might want to edit this?
   exec /opt/e17/bin/enlightenment_remote -restart &
fi

After this the menu categories under "Applications" will show nearly immediately - even if there is a huge number of symbolic links instead of real .desktop files in /usr/share/applications (which usually causes remarkable extra delay without that e17 restart script).

RSH
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oldyeller


Joined: 15 Nov 2011
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Location: Alaska
PostPosted: Tue 11 Jun 2013, 16:10    Post subject:  
R-S-H wrote:
Hi oldyeller.

I've found a solution for another issue with the e17 window manager.

When having a huge number of menu entries (.desktop files, LazY Puppy has) -especially when symbolic links are in /urs/share/applications- in e17, it takes some time to get the menu categories under "Applications".

I have put a little script into /root/Startup:
Code:
# Get current used WM
CURRENTWM="`cat /etc/windowmanager`"
if [ "$CURRENTWM" = "enlightenment_start" ]; then
   sleep 2 # you might want to edit this?
   exec /opt/e17/bin/enlightenment_remote -restart &
fi

After this the menu categories under "Applications" will show nearly immediately - even if there is a huge number of symbolic links instead of real .desktop files in /usr/share/applications (which usually causes remarkable extra delay without that e17 restart script).

RSH


Thanks for all of this information. So far I have not had any issues with e17, except that somethings run slower than in jwm, could be that it was not compiled for Manna OS.

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R-S-H

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PostPosted: Tue 11 Jun 2013, 16:29    Post subject:  
Hi, oldyeller.

Yes, this might not be the case in Manna OS with no extra applications installed (or another Puppy using the e17 WM), since it doesn't have that huge number of .desktop files. But it could change when installing lots of applications.

LazY Puppy (current used version of mine) has 606 .desktop files. And all of them are symbolic links.

So, the delay to show the menu categories under "Applications" is really (extra) remarkable.

RSH
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PostPosted: Wed 12 Jun 2013, 14:35    Post subject:  
R-S-H wrote:
Hi, oldyeller.

Yes, this might not be the case in Manna OS with no extra applications installed (or another Puppy using the e17 WM), since it doesn't have that huge number of .desktop files. But it could change when installing lots of applications.

LazY Puppy (current used version of mine) has 606 .desktop files. And all of them are symbolic links.

So, the delay to show the menu categories under "Applications" is really (extra) remarkable.

RSH


Hi RSH,

I will keep this in mind. I have done a new build with e17 as my default wm and so far all seems to be ok will be testing some more before next release in August.

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oldyeller


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PostPosted: Sat 27 Jul 2013, 14:19    Post subject:  
Hello Everyone,

I have done a remaster of Manna-2.8 which was a woof2 build.

It is 374mb, it has a lot of added pets and changes to the ppm. JWM is no longer in and openbox_plus-1.5.3 is.

Manna Bible Software-3.1.1 is update. get it from the first post.


God Bless and Enjoy
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oldyeller


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PostPosted: Thu 29 Aug 2013, 13:35    Post subject:  
Hello Everyone,

I will be doing a new build with woof using precise 5.7.1 for Manna 2.9.

What I want to know is would you like for a non-pae or pae for the kernel?

Will also be looking at the menu as well, thinking about what a new user would use in the menu. any ideas would be great Very Happy

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Jim1911

Joined: 19 May 2008
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PostPosted: Thu 29 Aug 2013, 13:48    Post subject:  
oldyeller wrote:
Hello Everyone,
What I want to know is would you like for a non-pae or pae for the kernel?
I prefer pae, however, how about both?
Thanks,
Jim
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oldyeller


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PostPosted: Fri 30 Aug 2013, 16:45    Post subject:  
Jim1911 wrote:
oldyeller wrote:
Hello Everyone,
What I want to know is would you like for a non-pae or pae for the kernel?
I prefer pae, however, how about both?
Thanks,
Jim


That could be in the plans, we will have to see how everything goes. When ever I ask for feed back it never comes, so thank you for yours Very Happy Very Happy

My wife is back using puppy again so I have her seeing what she likes in the menu and what eye-candy (icons, gtk themes and wall paper) she thinks should be in for new users. It will have some new programs + wbar.

It will be awhile for this release, that is way I am asking some questions in the post above.

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infromthepound

Joined: 12 Jun 2009
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PostPosted: Fri 30 Aug 2013, 18:49    Post subject:  
oldyeller wrote:
Hello Everyone,

I will be doing a new build with woof using precise 5.7.1 for Manna 2.9.

What I want to know is would you like for a non-pae or pae for the kernel?

Will also be looking at the menu as well, thinking about what a new user would use in the menu. any ideas would be great Very Happy

Cheers


I think the question could be how many of us are using older computers without PAE, rather than which to chose. (I use both)
JB
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oldyeller


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PostPosted: Fri 30 Aug 2013, 19:10    Post subject:  
Quote:
Jim1911
I prefer pae, however, how about both?


@JB
I didn't think about that since I am not really sure who uses any of the Manna OS's that I have done or even the separate program.

So I will probably do both non-pae and pae so that all can use it.

Thanks for reminding me about people that are using older computers. Any thoughts about the Menu as far as what a new user would be comfortable with. I know that will depend on the person using it though.

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oldyeller


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PostPosted: Mon 02 Sep 2013, 16:41    Post subject:  
Hello Everyone,

I have just uploaded some more pets to the repo for manna:

gpicview-0.2.3-i486
lxtask-0.1.4-i486
lxterminal-0.1.11-i486 +vte-0.28.2-i486....this will get downloaded as a dependency.

Don't forget to update the repos to get these.

Enjoy
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oldyeller


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PostPosted: Thu 05 Sep 2013, 15:34    Post subject:  
Hello Everyone,

I have just uploaded some more apps to the repo for Manna.

All Apps by radky:

pRun-1.0
PupApps-2.0.1
PupClockset-2.2
PupControl-2.4.1
PupMenu-3.3
PupShutdown-2.0.1
PupSysInfo-2.3.1

Hope you will enjoy these great apps by radky

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oldyeller


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PostPosted: Sat 07 Sep 2013, 22:49    Post subject:  
Hello Everyone,

There is a new Manna 3.2 you can get it here
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=84566

I also will not be doing a new woof build, I will be remastering this one again. I like it better than 5.7.1

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oldyeller


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PostPosted: Sun 08 Sep 2013, 17:33    Post subject:  
Hello Everyone,

The new Manna that i did has a flaw in it. I have put to many icons in /usr/share/pixmaps that Manna needs for the icons to show up in the menu.

I have reuploaded Manna-3.2 and made a script that will remove the unwanted icons.

##########################################

As of today September 09, 2013 if you have downloaded Manna-3.2 you not need to use this script.

##########################################

Cheers
removeicons.gz
Description  Just remove the fake .gz and make exec if not already. Click on it and it will remove the icons
 gz

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Filename  removeicons.gz 
Filesize  5.26 KB 
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oldyeller


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PostPosted: Fri 13 Sep 2013, 16:46    Post subject:  
Hello Everyone,

I have found a bug in Manna-3.2; Sorry about that thought I did a complete inspection before uploading it.

This update will fix the Studies to load in the chapters so that the whole study can be viewed.
manna_updatefix-1.0.pet
Description  update for Manna-3.2
 pet

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