Press 'Power off' in the system menu, nothing happens

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Press 'Power off' in the system menu, nothing happens

#1 Post by illidan.modeler »

All the items under the 'Shutdown' menu group are of no effect no. I click the item, such as 'power off', 'restart', nothing happens.

What can I do to fix it?

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Re: Press 'Power off' in the system menu, nothing happens

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illidan.modeler wrote:All the items under the 'Shutdown' menu group are of no effect no. I click the item, such as 'power off', 'restart', nothing happens.

What can I do to fix it?
What happens if you type

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wmpoweroff
into a console and press ENTER key?

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Re: Press 'Power off' in the system menu, nothing happens

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L18L wrote:
illidan.modeler wrote:All the items under the 'Shutdown' menu group are of no effect no. I click the item, such as 'power off', 'restart', nothing happens.

What can I do to fix it?
What happens if you type

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wmpoweroff
into a console and press ENTER key?
I surfed the Web and got to know the command. However, when I issued the command 'wmpoweroff', the system prompted with 'kill ...' which seemed like the mannual for command kill.

Maybe something has gone wrong deeply in my file tree...

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Re: Press 'Power off' in the system menu, nothing happens

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illidan.modeler wrote:... However, when I issued the command 'wmpoweroff', the system prompted with 'kill ...'....
Anythig else :?:

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Re: Press 'Power off' in the system menu, nothing happens

#5 Post by illidan.modeler »

L18L wrote:
illidan.modeler wrote:... However, when I issued the command 'wmpoweroff', the system prompted with 'kill ...'....
Anythig else :?:
After the console replied 'kill' help, nothing else was provided.

I'm now able to repeat the problem. When I issue 'exit to Prompt' menu command, and issue 'xwin fvwm95' since I try to see fvwm of Puppy, all the items under menu group 'Shutdown' will all become ineffective.

I have to recover my save.sfs to resume my correct and normal past, discarding recent edits and saves.

I dare not to try 'xwin fvwm' again this time.

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#6 Post by Karl Godt »

fvwm is a window manager . Apparently it is not installed on your system .

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xwin jwm
is the standard windowmanager .

The shutdown scripts try to kill the entry in /etc/windowmanager .

xwin script should be updated to check for

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[ "$1" ] && { 
which "$1" || {
echo "$1 windowmanger not installed.Exiting."
exit
} ; }

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#7 Post by L18L »

illidan.modeler wrote:...I dare not to try 'xwin fvwm' again this time.
and bigpup always wrote:_________________
I have found, in trying to help people, that the things they do not tell you, are usually the clue to solving the problem.
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#8 Post by illidan.modeler »

Karl Godt wrote:fvwm is a window manager . Apparently it is not installed on your system .

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xwin jwm
is the standard windowmanager .

The shutdown scripts try to kill the entry in /etc/windowmanager .

xwin script should be updated to check for

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[ "$1" ] && { 
which "$1" || {
echo "$1 windowmanger not installed.Exiting."
exit
} ; }
It's a standard out-of-the-box Slacko 5.6. And I don't know if fvwm is intalled by default. I just read the commets in prompt mode (or run level 3?) that I may run 'xwin fvwm' or 'xwin jvw'. I tried 'xwin fvwm' and it turned my systems abnormal, though I haven't figure out which scripts it has modified.

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#9 Post by bigpup »

The window manager that is installed in Slacko 5.6 out of the box is:
"Joe's Window Manager"
JWM

If you want to use another window manager you need to install one.
I just read the commets in prompt mode (or run level 3?) that I may run 'xwin fvwm' or 'xwin jvw'.
Not sure where you are seeing this info, could be examples, but the only one that will work is:

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xwin jwm
The things they do not tell you, are usually the clue to solving the problem.
When I was a kid I wanted to be older.... This is not what I expected :shock:
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#10 Post by illidan.modeler »

bigpup wrote:The window manager that is installed in Slacko 5.6 out of the box is:
"Joe's Window Manager"
JWM

If you want to use another window manager you need to install one.
I just read the commets in prompt mode (or run level 3?) that I may run 'xwin fvwm' or 'xwin jvw'.
Not sure where you are seeing this info, could be examples, but the only one that will work is:

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xwin jwm
There's a menu command 'exit to Prompt' under menu group 'Shutdown' (when I examine the config file, this menu item links to command 'wmexit'). When press this menu item, your Puppy will turn to a no-xwin stage where you'll see the message I mentioned.
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#11 Post by bigpup »

OK. I see what you are talking about.
This is a typical Linux info statement that usually tells you too much and gives some examples of what you may be able to input in a command.

That xwin [fvwm95|jwm]
is an example of how to use the xwin command.

fvwm95 is a windows manager, but it is not installed on Slacko 5.6.
Not sure why it would even do anything to enter it as a xwin command.
Just so happens that fvwm95 will sort of work, but not fully, as you have found out.

The one thing I never liked about information statements for Linux commands.
They tell you how it works, but you still need to know what the correct input is to use.

If you had other window managers installed, you would use their name after the xwin command.

Again, Slacko5.6 only has jwm, for a window manager, out of the box
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#12 Post by L18L »

illidan.modeler wrote:...There's a menu command 'exit to Prompt' under menu group 'Shutdown' (when I examine the config file, this menu item links to command 'wmexit'). When press this menu item, your Puppy will turn to a no-xwin stage where you'll see the message I mentioned.
Yes, it is /usr/bin/xwin: 8)

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#unicode_start #i18n rodin.s for unicode start after exit from X. ??????what is this??????
#120224 ...console font is loaded in quicksetup if locale changed.
echo ''$(gettext 'Exited from X. Type "xwin [fvwm95|jwm]" to restart X ([ ] mean optional).')''
echo ''$(gettext '(To shutdown PC type "poweroff", to reboot PC type "reboot")')''
Thus this text created by BarryK really should be updated to something that works
Maybe:
Exited from X. Type "xwin [jwm|openbox]" to restart X ([ ] mean optional, openbox only valid if it is installed)
?
and Karl's suggestion implemented additionally.

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#13 Post by Karl Godt »

Yeah , have suggested that to runtt21 for macpup550 and he implemented it ( [enlightenment_start|jwm] ).

Probably needs /etc/installed_wms file like /etc/ld.so.conf :)
And an updater script for that file :D

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