Java and Opera Mini

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nic007 · #21 Post by **nic007** » Thu 03 Oct 2013, 01:52

mikeb wrote:hmm that might need some digging at microemulator website.
I assume you have the resizeable screen set as default?

I am being a windows bunny at the mo so if i get chance i will play

mike

Just to make it clear...When one starts microemulator by just clicking microemulator.jar (ie. Without any further arguments/code/command), the application opens but one has to select the applet (midlet file in this case opera mini.jad) from the menu first and then click the start button to run it. Now I see with that syntax/command we got going for enabling downloads with Opera Mini, that microemulator opens with opera mini already being selected automatically and the only further input needed, is to click the start button to run it. So, I was wondering if the command can be "expanded" to also make opera mini run automatically (ie. Without having to click the start button in microemulator) when microemulator opens...or perhaps something added to the config file? Yes, I have resizable device as default. Thanks

mikeb · #22 Post by **mikeb** » Thu 03 Oct 2013, 10:54

Yes got that one.... your fingers must be getting tired by now.....

Well trains stopped play but I am back again...

mike

edit
if there was a switch it would be here i think
http://www.microemu.org/usage.html
but did find the nokia option

nic007 · #23 Post by **nic007** » Thu 03 Oct 2013, 11:08

mikeb wrote:Yes got that one.... your fingers must be getting tired by now.....

Well trains stopped play but I am back again...

mike

edit
if there was a switch it would be here i think
http://www.microemu.org/usage.html
but did find the nokia option

Okay I admit I'm getting lazy with the button clicking. LOL. I've had a look at microemu's home page and the answer may be there but I'm not savvy enough to spot/realise/understand all of it

mikeb · #24 Post by **mikeb** » Thu 03 Oct 2013, 17:58

Ok hand over the jelly beans.... got it to auto run...
on windows I did this...but you will get the idea...you add opera to the class path and then add 'Browser' in the class to run list... and voila it runs straight away...obviously you want to add yer file save and full screen stuff...and linux paths, and cuddly toys..

java -cp microemulator.jar;..\opera-mini-7.1.32052-advanced-en.jar org.microemu.app.Main Browser

watch them colons.......!!

mike

now why does the nokia jar not work...grrrrrr

nic007 · #25 Post by **nic007** » Fri 04 Oct 2013, 06:31

mikeb wrote:Ok hand over the jelly beans.... got it to auto run...
on windows I did this...but you will get the idea...you add opera to the class path and then add 'Browser' in the class to run list... and voila it runs straight away...obviously you want to add yer file save and full screen stuff...and linux paths, and cuddly toys..

java -cp microemulator.jar;..\opera-mini-7.1.32052-advanced-en.jar org.microemu.app.Main Browser

watch them colons.......!!

mike

now why does the nokia jar not work...grrrrrr

Hi, Mike. tried it in puppy and does not work. I have:
java -cp /root/microemulator-2.0.4/lib/microemu-jsr-75.jar:/root/microemulator-2.0.4/microemulator.jar:/root/microemulator-2.0.4/apps/opera-mini-7.0.30567-advanced-en-us.jar org.microemu.app.Main Browser --impl org.microemu.cldc.file.Filesystem org.microemu.examples.fcview.FCViewMIDlet /root/microemulator-2.0.4/apps/opera-mini-7.0.30567-advanced-en-us.jad

I'm probably doing something silly.

mikeb · #26 Post by **mikeb** » Fri 04 Oct 2013, 10:59

Cannot test at the moment but perhaps remove that last jad since opera jar is in the classpath this way and started with Browser.

I'm probably doing something silly.

I do all the time...helps me deal with the outside world.

mike

samira · #27 Post by **samira** » Thu 17 Oct 2013, 06:35

Hello,
I was wondering if there's any microemu pet package for puppy. Or I need to compile from sources?

mikeb · #28 Post by **mikeb** » Thu 17 Oct 2013, 08:46

Hi samira...

its a crossplatform java package...just download , unpack and run.
Needs the java runtime thats all.
mike

samira · #29 Post by **samira** » Thu 17 Oct 2013, 13:50

Dear mikeb,
You mean i just get microemu first. Then for the runtime, i need the "standard" java from Sun's website? Can microemu be used with j2me?

mikeb · #30 Post by **mikeb** » Thu 17 Oct 2013, 14:05

Yes and yes.... java -jar /path/to/app.jar or .jad is the basic usage...

mike

nic007 · #31 Post by **nic007** » Thu 17 Oct 2013, 14:17

samira wrote:Dear mikeb,
You mean i just get microemu first. Then for the runtime, i need the "standard" java from Sun's website? Can microemu be used with j2me?

You need to install JRE first. There are pets available. Then download microemulator and place its folder somewhere on your HDD. I have it in root. Then right-click on a jar file and chose " set run-action" in the menu. Set the run-action as: java -jar "$@" for jar files. You can then run microemulator by clicking microemulator.jar

nic007 · #32 Post by **nic007** » Thu 17 Oct 2013, 14:37

mikeb wrote:Yes and yes.... java -jar /path/to/app.jar or .jad is the basic usage...

mike

Hi, Mike.

Minimal requirement for microemulator to run is JRE1.4.2 Being ultra anti any large programmes, I would love to have that old version working as it's about 13mb compared to the newer versions at over 40MB in installation size. So, it will be great if one can find/make a pet of that old version. I've tried to download that old version from Java Sun website before but without luck. Any way to get/make a JRE1.4.2pet?

mikeb · #33 Post by **mikeb** » Thu 17 Oct 2013, 15:39

Hmm I have 1.6u0_30 which is a 30MB sfs.

In order to get it an any other older versions you have to join the dev site.... just an email and password job and tell them you work for IBM or something

.... Has to be the horses mouth as by the licensing nature you are unlikely to find an 'official' download elsewhere.

Unless someone here has one tucked away

mike

samira · #34 Post by **samira** » Thu 17 Oct 2013, 19:25

Hi mike,
Thanks! It works..

mikeb · #35 Post by **mikeb** » Thu 17 Oct 2013, 20:38

Splendiferous

samira · #36 Post by **samira** » Mon 21 Oct 2013, 04:01

mikeb: i was thinking of the possibility of running Java ME instead to keep things light. Would that be possible since most java phones run Java ME?

mikeb · #37 Post by **mikeb** » Mon 21 Oct 2013, 09:09

Well since microemulator is emulating javaME that would have been unecessary if javaME was available on Linux. Then again its an area of which I know little which also means I really don't know

regards

Mike

samira · #38 Post by **samira** » Mon 21 Oct 2013, 13:16

Hi mike,
thanks for the feedback. was just wondering if i can keep it small. for me, it's a waste of space to install 40mb of data to run a mini browser smaller than 5mb.

mikeb · #39 Post by **mikeb** » Mon 21 Oct 2013, 14:44

Well multiple levels of emulation do take their toll on the electricity bill.

Again jme2 running directly on elf would be a better way but I know not if it exists (is it closed source?)... otherwise why use such as microemulator.

It may be related to the commercial aspect of the whole smart phone apps world... easier to prevent users getting files on a phones embedded system than on a pc.

ok old javas for puppy
http://dotpups.de/dotpups/Libraries/
there are 3 in there...rename pup to zip to get at the files if they won't install.

note from oracle the java ME downloads only appear to have SDK for windows and Macs but I get the feeling you would have something similar to microemulator in the end.

Ok straight from my oracle account as an ace pilot

the last release of 1.4 installer bin....I might have a play myself

removed to to lack of need and I want the space..pm if you still want this..

mike

samira · #40 Post by **samira** » Wed 04 Dec 2013, 06:36

I did manage to try operamini.pet (v6.5) and google+chrome.jar (a modded opera mini 4.2) last night. I notice that v4.2 was much more speedy in loading pages even with graphic, but v6.5 was unable to load it fast, with 2 tabs open. any reasin for this? the connection speed was a basic 64 kbps one.

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