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How to switch kernels between Puppy versions
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James C


Joined: 26 Mar 2009
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PostPosted: Fri 25 Oct 2013, 01:56    Post subject:  
You can tell I haven't used 3.01 in a while........ forgot about the first run wallpaper.
Rebooted and everything appears to have saved including the internet connection.Hadn't seen Netsurf in a while either. Laughing

Code:
# uname -a
Linux puppypc 2.6.25.16 #1 Tue Aug 26 10:45:53 GMT-8 2008 i686 AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2400+ AuthenticAMD GNU/Linux
# free
              total         used         free       shared      buffers
  Mem:      1035420       360432       674988            0        31736
 Swap:      1228932            0      1228932
Total:      2264352       360432      1903920
#


EDIT:
First bug...... Pmount not working but MUT is working fine.
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Mercedes350se

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PostPosted: Fri 25 Oct 2013, 22:20    Post subject:  
James C wrote:
Had a little free time..... I changed the sfs from pup_301.sfs to pup_412.sfs and it appears to boot fine (the initrd.gz hunts for the 412 sfs)


What did you do about the zdrv_301.sfs?

Which vmlinuz and initrd.gz?
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James C


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PostPosted: Fri 25 Oct 2013, 22:52    Post subject:  
Mercedes350se wrote:
James C wrote:
Had a little free time..... I changed the sfs from pup_301.sfs to pup_412.sfs and it appears to boot fine (the initrd.gz hunts for the 412 sfs)


What did you do about the zdrv_301.sfs?

Which vmlinuz and initrd.gz?


Quick answer...... not using it.Only using the main sfs.

The unchanged vmlinuz and initrd.gz from Puppy 412..

Unsquashed the 301 sfs, and copied in /etc/modules/ from 412 (instead of using the zdrv) then deleted /lib/modules/ and /lib/firmware/ from the 301 sfs and copied in /lib/modules/ and lib/firmware/ from 412. Resquashed the 301 sfs and used it and the vmlinuz and initrd.gz from 412 to do a quick frugal install.
Probably could get it to work without renaming the sfs but I just did it the quick way. Smile

EDIT:
Almost forgot...... while the sfs is unsquashed edit /etc/puppyversion/ to "412" instead of "301". This version shows as 412 but its still 301 just with the newer kernel..... posting from it now.
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James C


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PostPosted: Fri 25 Oct 2013, 23:35    Post subject:  
Did a little more hacking around and I now have a version working still using a pup_301.sfs. Other than Pmount not working (Mut still works fine) everything else looks good.
Still no zdrv...... Laughing
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James C


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PostPosted: Sat 26 Oct 2013, 00:11    Post subject:  
For the version without renaming the sfs....

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Unsquashed the 301 sfs, and copied in /etc/modules/ from 412 (instead of using the zdrv) then deleted /lib/modules/ and /lib/firmware/ from the 301 sfs and copied in /lib/modules/ and lib/firmware/ from 412.


Open the initrd.gz from Puppy 412 and replace the file "puppyversion" with the one from 301.Rebuild the initrd.gz.

Quote:
Resquashed the 301 sfs and used it and the vmlinuz and initrd.gz from 412 to do a quick frugal install.


This works without renaming the pup_301.sfs.

EDIT:

I went ahead and uploaded pup 301-k-2.6.25.16.iso .......if interested I'll supply the link.
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Mercedes350se

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PostPosted: Mon 28 Oct 2013, 20:01    Post subject:  
James C wrote:
I went ahead and uploaded pup 301-k-2.6.25.16.iso .......if interested I'll supply the link.


Yes please.
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James C


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PostPosted: Mon 28 Oct 2013, 20:30    Post subject:  
Mercedes350se wrote:
James C wrote:
I went ahead and uploaded pup 301-k-2.6.25.16.iso .......if interested I'll supply the link.


Yes please.


http://www.smokey01.com/JamesC/vintage/pup%20301-k-2.6.25.16.iso

http://www.smokey01.com/JamesC/vintage/pup%20301-k-2.6.25.16%20md5

As I noted, Pmount doesn't work and I honestly didn't try to fix it. Everything else appeared fine in some quick testing.
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Mercedes350se

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PostPosted: Wed 30 Oct 2013, 03:03    Post subject:  
James C wrote:
EDIT:
Almost forgot...... while the sfs is unsquashed edit /etc/puppyversion/ to "412" instead of "301". This version shows as 412 but its still 301 just with the newer kernel..... posting from it now.


For the sake of discussion, "What is in the puppyversion file for 3.01retro - is it 301 or 301retro or ... ?"

Thank you for the upload info.
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nic007


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PostPosted: Mon 04 Nov 2013, 06:45    Post subject:  
nic007 wrote:
Okay. Switched the puppy 5390 kernel to puppy 412 and then converted to 4sfs. Everything works fine except for the timezone, date and time. Wouldn't accept/save the customized correct settings, keep on changing after every reboot. Any ideas to fix it? Settings appear to be incorrect in the base file.

Still looking for an answer to this. If I change the timezone at bootup the screen flickers and the correct time appears. Is there a script that can run at start-up to set the clock correct automatically? I'm at GMT +2. Thanks


Someone?
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mikeb


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PostPosted: Mon 04 Nov 2013, 07:51    Post subject:  
Ok no idea nic007... all I have is that in puppy 4 I have /etc/localtime as a symlink to /usr/share/zoneinfo/Etc/GMT-0
in puppy 2 its
/usr/share/zoneinfo/GMT-0
gmt0 made the clock behave for me ...the path would be set by the version of???????? note the etc

might give a clue

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Pelo


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PostPosted: Wed 27 Nov 2013, 02:01    Post subject: Polarpup now rides a Racy 5.3
Subject description: Wireless, sound, QT all good, nothing bad		  
Polarpup now rides a Racy 5.3
Wireless, sound, QT all good, nothing bad.
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Wognath

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PostPosted: Sun 22 Dec 2013, 12:56    Post subject:  
I couldn't resist any longer and tried jrb's kernel transplant method on pup-431bcm4312v3, which is approaching its 4th anniversary on my Lenovo S12. All goes well except that if I keep the savefile by renaming pupsave.2fs to warysave.2fs, I can't establish a wireless connection (Failed command: ifconfig wlan0 up). Wary and hybrid with no savefile connect immediately using b43. 431 used wl. In the end, I started over with a new savefile, which was probably a good thing anyway, and have had no further problems.

Can someone explain how something in my savefile would prevent the drivers in the new kernel from working properly?

P.S. The reason for kernel change was lack of a driver for my particular SD card reader in the 2.6.30.5 kernel; also gained the ability to mount late-model sfs files.
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mikeb


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PostPosted: Sun 22 Dec 2013, 13:16    Post subject:  
And patching the kernel caused indigestion Smile

wl does not work so well in later kernels plus ssb may interfere as that's needed for usb1

b43 does work better in the later kernels anyway.

so your old wl config in the save would force a driver that would not work or may be absent.

mike
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Wognath

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PostPosted: Sun 22 Dec 2013, 14:05    Post subject:  
mikeb,
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patching the kernel caused indigestion

Yeah, I forgot to mention my indigestion
All the later pups connect my broadcom wireless with b43, but jrb used wl in his custom 431. wl is not in the wary kernel. So where in the savefile is the wl module specified? I tried deleting the /etc/network-wizard folder. When I run the wizard and load b43, why doesn't that override whatever is in the savefile?
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mikeb


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PostPosted: Sun 22 Dec 2013, 14:36    Post subject:  
Hmm probably a black list of ssb which rerunning the network wizard would not alter....or perhaps wl is still loading.
all that comes to mind...the wl pets did make a couple of changes.

mike
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