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[gasem]

I did a hard drive install of wary 5.5 to a thinkpad x24 laptop. wlan was a dlink pcmcia card. It all worked great. Picked up the audio, video, pcmcia including the flash drive, eth0, phone modem as well.

The computer is a unicore 1ghz mobile Pentium 3 and 256mb ram. The computer is USB 1.1 and the bios won't boot from USB and has no internal CD drive so the HD install is about the only alternative and it completely revitalized this computer. Just a vote to continue with support for this class of hardware. I could easily give this computer to some kid or pensioner who could otherwise not afford a computer and he/she would have a blast.

[futwerk]

a few new backgrounds.

[Dewbie]

Very nice, and might I add a subtle way of dropping hints.

[Jades]

My full install of Wary 5.5 is still performing excellently on my K6-2 500, which is more than I can say about the current alleged reccommended Official Puppy for older machines, Precise Retro, which can't even boot. I think I'll be staying with Wary for quite some time.

[starhawk]

Small problem on my Dell Latitude CPi (aka The Infernal Dell) whilst trying Wary 5.5 on it.

The sound doesn't work.

Somewhat bigger problem: /usr/sbin/alsaconfig won't run.

Start the ALSA Wizard from the Puppy Menu, it pops up. Select "Run ALSA Wizard" and the orange box pops up and I never see any text in it -- nor do I see the alsaconf dialog boxes. Running from the terminal is slightly different -- no output at all, it just hangs.

The sound card in question is a Crystal 4237B. It's legacy ISA junk (the laptop is a 1999 model, after all!) and it's particularly persnickety with Puppy -- somewhere in the early 4 series Pups, the driver that should work with it (confusingly enough, it's the -4232 driver IIRC) stopped working with it. IIRC most Pups based on 412 will work, but 420 and later Pups won't. No idea why.

Here's the Pups I've tried and what happens with them --
TurboPup -- (pup420 based) probably the fastest I've found that's almost modern -- but USB is not hotpluggable.
pUPnGO -- (pup412 based) tried several variants, oddly sound does not work despite being a 412 derivative. extremely fast tho -- ties with TurboPup.
pup432v3 -- no sound and a little slow all round.
Precise 57 -- no drivers for the sound card.
RetroPrecise 543 -- either no drivers or alsaconf broken (don't remember)
Wary 55 -- alsaconf does not start, no sound
Wary 53 -- alsaconf does not start, no sound
Wary 513 -- alsaconf runs (!) but freezes at "loading sound driver". Did not test to see if the driver actually loaded or worked (I highly doubt it!). I'll try again later and choose the other driver (I chose the -4236 driver this time, which can sometimes work -- rarely).

Oh right -- @BarryK -- blog comment incoming about keyboards

EDIT: tried Wary 513 again -- ISA probe failed because the cs4232 driver (the one that's needed here) is missing. Oh well.

[Monsie]

starhawk,

Have a look at this set of instructions over at the Alsa Project regarding building the modules for your particular sound card. Since your computer is a 1999 model, I believe it is worthwhile including such a driver package for Wary Puppy.

Monsie

[Monsie]

starhawk,

Update:

I'm currently running Wary 5.5 and I did find a couple of cs sound drivers... just wondering if you could install either one --possibly by re-naming one of them to match your sound card so that Alsa-Wizard would find it and set it up for you. I know it is a bit of a hack, but hey, it might work...

Monsie

[starhawk]

Sorry that I forgot about this sometime later I'll try compiling that driver... but I'm very (pardon the term) wary about doing it -- make and I do not get along well...

[musher0]

Hello, all.

Would any of you know how to get the Win keys to work in wary 5.5?
I have a Microsoft Internet keyboard, and xorg.conf is correctly
configured.

Here is my problem. echinus 0.4.9 can have some functions activated by
the Win keys. Under wary 5.5, however, the Win keys seem to remain
dead. By comparison, the echinus configuration with the Win keys work
nicely in rerwin's sulu.

Someone suggested that I change the setting in xorg.conf to pc105.
Which I did, but to no avail.

I got the Win keys to work, but only temporarily, for a single session,
in wary-5.5, by overwriting wary's xorg.conf with sulu's xorg.conf.
(Copying from suluPuppy to the warysave file, and then rebooting in
wary 5.5.)

Could there be a keyboard driver missing in wary, but present in sulu?
Or is it something else altogether?

Beyond the possibility to use the Win keys in echinus, it would be nice to
be able to configure and use under Puppy the additional keys that the M$
Internet keyboard has.

Any lead will be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance and best regards.

musher0

[Monsie]

[musher0]

If you want a clear explanation, ask a fellow Canadian!
Many thanks, monsie! I'll try your suggestions.

BFN.

musher0

[Monsie]

musher0,

I forgot to mention (it was late for me when I posted previously) that you can check to see if the right and left Windows keys are mapped or not with xmodmap using the print keyboard map option:

[npierce]

musher0,

Any progress?

What output does Wary 5.5 give you for these commands?:

[created4el]

When I go through the menu to power off my P3 system running wary 5.5 installed onto the hard drive (formerly running 5.3 with jwm) it just sits there. It used to at least shut down but the power button had to be manually pressed and held to shut off the power. But as mentioned in 5.5, it doesn't even get to there.

After a bit of digging... the menu/shutdown/power off computer is linked to /usr/bin/wmpoweroff... in the wmpoweroff script it does a cat /etc/wibndowmanager...
that file contains fvwm95 but I am running jwm... so when I change the content to jwm then it shuts down... (or halts but doesn't power off... at least it doesn't just blissfully sit there like before...

[musher0]

Edited Nov. 14, 2013
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