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nooby

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PostPosted: Sat 09 Nov 2013, 03:45    Post_subject:  

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Help search on mozilla dot org for "Marionette" had zero links, I am suspicious.

Any method of purging this Broswer Component, or "commenting-out"?


Had not heard of it before. Is it a known addon. if you look at
Tools - Addons - Extensions
is it there then you should be able to delete it?

what do you get from reading links like this then? Smile
http://www.theautomatedtester.co.uk/blog/2012/marionette-the-future-of-firefoxdriver-in-selenium.html

Would these not explain the purpose and how to change permissions and things?

does we all ahve it without knowing? how did you find out you had it?

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PostPosted: Sat 09 Nov 2013, 04:52    Post_subject: Firefox official releases  

Firefox is no longer being updated in Debian Squeeze. Firefox 24 is the last update. I am not sure why. While Squeeze is old stable it has not reached end of life status yet. I am just wondering if there is any limitations re: Firefox working on systems with an older kernel. If so, then one might expect problems with Firefox updates working with some of the Puppy releases with an older or similar kernel such as Wary... will have to test it and see.

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ThoriumBlvd


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PostPosted: Sat 09 Nov 2013, 05:11    Post_subject:  

nooby... burunduk's posting on page 13. On my machine it is installed, but not running. I get nervous a little about remote controlling a computer. I can live with it as long as its not running. The Tools window can disable it.
Things have changed a lot since my FF3 install, about: help is not the way to get info lol, its a full menu now. (If it ain't broke don't fix it, FF3 is no longer supported at many websites now, so Heeeeerrrrrsss Puppy! That would be Thorium doing the happy dance)

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PostPosted: Sat 09 Nov 2013, 06:53    Post_subject:  

Burn_IT wrote:
Mine failed on the update from 24 to 25 for some reason.
I need to investigate when I get time at home.


It was lack of space in the personal storage. I'd spotted the message flash up some time ago. I cleared some garbage out and increased it anyway.
Problem solved.

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PostPosted: Sat 09 Nov 2013, 07:02    Post_subject:  

ThoriumBlvd wrote:
nooby... burunduk's posting on page 13. On my machine it is installed, but not running. I get nervous a little about remote controlling a computer. I can live with it as long as its not running. The Tools window can disable it.
Things have changed a lot since my FF3 install, about: help is not the way to get info lol, its a full menu now. (If it ain't broke don't fix it, FF3 is no longer supported at many websites now, so Heeeeerrrrrsss Puppy! That would be Thorium doing the happy dance)


Could they install it behind so I fail to see it?

Anyway. I have Lupu 528-005 so maybe that protect me Smile

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PostPosted: Sat 09 Nov 2013, 07:43    Post_subject:  

I believe your Puppy has pfind to search for files. If so just type in marionette to the search box. There will be a "log" file at least. This file in my puppy has one line stating its installed. In the example on page 13, its running, and has more lines in the log-file.
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PostPosted: Sat 09 Nov 2013, 09:09    Post_subject: Re: Whose control has your browser been under?  

Burunduk wrote:
A small addition to the Firefox 24 release notes just FYI.

Firefox 24 comes with a (disabled) built-in remote access tool called Marionette. It is intended for some vague SocialAPI tests this is why security or performance is a minor concern.

Bugzilla: Add --marionette CLI to enable Marionette on all Firefox builds

MDN wrote:

Marionette is available in all Firefox builds; it is not enabled, however, unless you launch Firefox with the -marionette command-line argument.[1]


MDN wrote:

What is Marionette?

Marionette is an automation driver. It can remotely drive either the UI or the internal JavaScript of a program built on the Gecko platform, such as Firefox or Firefox OS. Marionette runs as a server on your test machine, allowing you to connect to that server and remotely drive tests and send commands. Its goal is to replicate what Selenium does for the browser: to enable the tester to have the ability to send commands to a remote test machine.

Marionette shares much of the same API as Selenium/WebDriver, and makes writing tests easy. You have the API to drive user actions like page navigation and element clicking, but also the ability to execute arbitrary JavaScript scripts, allowing for a greater variety of tests.


When would I use it?

If you want to utilize user interaction with chrome or content, Marionette is the tool you're looking for, but it is also capable of doing much more! Marionette lives in both the chrome and content space of a gecko process, so it is capable of running commands in any of these spaces.

This means you can run any JS script in chrome or in content. This is a powerful feature, enabling a user to do anything from inspecting the content DOM of a Firefox instance running in a remote machine to executing a script that changes profile preferences in privileged chrome space.[2]


marionette.log wrote:

1379630108356 Marionette INFO MarionetteComponent loaded
1379630109167 Marionette INFO marionette enabled via command-line
1379630109202 Marionette INFO marionette-server.js loaded
1379630109321 Marionette INFO Listening on port 2828

1379630109322 Marionette INFO Marionette server ready


Hope it is okay that I copy the whole thing. Pfind says I have no such thing.
kind of odd. Could it be I do something different? It does say I have FF25

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PostPosted: Sat 09 Nov 2013, 23:51    Post_subject:  

The marionette.log file is in a Firefox profile directory (usually /root/.mozilla/firefox/xxxxxxxx.default/). It should contain only one line. My example was an illustration of a working server.

The marionette component is disabled by default. I don't think it can be enabled or disabled via GUI (the remote debugging is a different story).

An extension can probably use it:

Daniel Veditz wrote:

…AMO reviewers should watch for addons which
* manipulate these prefs
* attempt to use the marionette APIs

There may well be legitimate testing add-ons that use these so they should not be prohibited, we just need to make sure that they aren't used secretly from an add-on for which it's irrelevant and inappropriate.[1]
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PostPosted: Sun 10 Nov 2013, 02:29    Post_subject:  

Burunduk that was right on. I have that file too.

it says
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Marionette INFO Marionette Component loaded


that word "loaded" could indicate it is in practical use
but maybe it just means what you wrote that it is Not activated?

would it help to delete the file?

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PostPosted: Sun 10 Nov 2013, 16:26    Post_subject:  

There is no point in deleting the file — Firefox will keep creating it anyway.

The marionette is a server (somewhat similar to MozRepl) and it's listening on port 2828 or any other set by a preference in about:config when active. If you don't believe it's stopped, try to run the netstat -lt command:

Code:
# netstat -lt
Active Internet connections (only servers)
Proto Recv-Q Send-Q Local Address           Foreign Address         State     
tcp        0      0 localhost:631           *:*                     LISTEN     
#


(Don't worry about port 631. It's related to CUPS.)
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PostPosted: Sun 10 Nov 2013, 16:50    Post_subject:  

Thanks that is how it looks on my ROX Term too.
So that is reassuring Smile

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PostPosted: Sat 16 Nov 2013, 04:01    Post_subject: Firefox 25.0.1  

Hi
I updated my Firefox SFS to 25.0.1 yesterday.
http://ul.to/0vlikakr

I like to update to new versions by "plug-in" updated SFS-files and not exhausting the personal safe file.

Language setting add-on-download
https://addons.mozilla.org/de/firefox/addon/locale-switcher/

Language add-on download
http://releases.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/releases/latest/win32/xpi/

Tested with Slacko 5.5. No guarantee that it works on your puppy.

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PostPosted: Sat 16 Nov 2013, 08:51    Post_subject:  

Yesterday >> https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/25.0.1/releasenotes/
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PostPosted: Sun 17 Nov 2013, 19:38    Post_subject:  

I packaged Firefox ESR (Extended Support Release) as .pet and .sfs

It gets all the updates without the (main) version number jumping every few weeks.
This is the English (British) version.

Main folder is in /usr/lib (not /opt)

Tested in Lucid and Racy.

Would need dbus and dbus-glib from PPM in Wary.

Download from here:-
http://www.smokey01.com/OscarTalks

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PostPosted: Thu 13 Feb 2014, 07:17    Post_subject:  

Over a week ago >> https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/27.0/releasenotes/
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