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Ted vs Abiword: which is better?
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Ibidem

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PostPosted: Tue 26 Feb 2013, 01:30    Post_subject:  

Ted 2.23 adds a "pet" target. Smile
It also is noticeably more reliable (undo-redo-redo doesn't risk crashing stuff, for one!), reputedly has several fixes for the GTK ui, etc.

For those wanting to open MS Word docs:
wvRTF can convert .doc to RTF, though it may mess up formatting.
Abiword offers a commandline converter, also.
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charlie6


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PostPosted: Fri 01 Mar 2013, 09:02    Post_subject:  

Quote:

...For those wanting to open MS Word docs:
wvRTF can convert .doc to RTF, though it may mess up formatting.

Thanks for the tip ...but
wvRTF does not work for me -->not any *.rtf file returned.
(version 1.2.4 on dPup-exprimo 3.6.2.1)

cheers
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6502coder

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PostPosted: Sun 23 Jun 2013, 14:31    Post_subject: For me, it's TED  

I'm for tossing Abiword in favor of TED. It may "only" do RTF but it does it very well, as opposed to the buggy way Abiword does DOC and everything else.

I use RTF format almost exclusively anyway. It handles everything I need to do as far as formatting, and I never have to worry about whether the guy at the other end has a word-processor that can understand it. The over-use of DOC and DOCX for "documents" that could just as well have been TXT files is absurd.

People who really need to EDIT in DOC/DOCX format have no lack of packages they can add to Puppy to get this capability. If you really need to deal with DOC/DOCX, Abiword is NOT better than nothing, IMHO.
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PostPosted: Sat 23 Nov 2013, 13:58    Post_subject: ABIWORD Titles Your Images
Sub_title: Image as background
 

Abiword is an easier way for titles on images by including a screenshot in background. Just select landscape format A4 ! Very Happy
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slavvo67

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PostPosted: Thu 13 Feb 2014, 13:54    Post_subject:  

TED started out working fine but then I had some issues with it and decided to delete it. It would probably be better to compare it to Leafpad or Geany rather than ABIWord.

ABIWord is clearly a flawed product but it is a nice, light word processor and provides good conversion (again, not perfect). The stable version has been 2.8.6 for ... well forever, basically. The newer versions (betas) all seem to have additional flaws that bring me back to 2.8.6 (which isn't perfect, either). I recall using the delete button when editing a document which started an auto-save process and the shutdown of ABI Word (not sure which version).

I would not use ABI or TED for any serious document work (i.e. writing a 100 pager) but I would use ABI Word hands down against most other word processor offerings (of its size, at least). If Libre was lighter, it would be my clear choice. Kingsoft seemed ok at first but again, the size and conversion issues there.

These, of course are only my opinions but I've grown to love ABI Word for what it is and for what it isn't. It's a perfect pairing for Puppy.
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PostPosted: Thu 13 Feb 2014, 14:07    Post_subject:  

Ted but im easily impressed by a good name... Very Happy
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Pelo


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PostPosted: Thu 15 May 2014, 05:51    Post_subject: TED or Abiword : mon coeur balance
Sub_title: Useful fonction dans Abiword : fond de page / page back image
 

Ibidem says : "TED would probably be better to compare it to Leafpad or Geany rather than ABIWord. I would not use ABI or TED for any serious document work (i.e. writing a 100 pager) but I would use ABI Word hands down against most other word processor offerings (of its size, at least)."
Abiword can do much better, see here above screenshot. Abiword is convenant a majority des people at house.
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Ibidem

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PostPosted: Fri 16 May 2014, 02:28    Post_subject: Re: TED or Abiword : mon coeur balance
Sub_title: Useful fonction dans Abiword : fond de page / page back image
 

Pelo wrote:
Ibidem says : "TED would probably be better to compare it to Leafpad or Geany rather than ABIWord. I would not use ABI or TED for any serious document work (i.e. writing a 100 pager) but I would use ABI Word hands down against most other word processor offerings (of its size, at least)."
Abiword can do much better, see here above screenshot. Abiword is convenant a majority des people at house.


AHEM! That was slavvo67, not me.
I have never had good luck with Abiword--whether it's all the double-spacing suddenly deciding to go to the end of the file, leaving a 3-page double-spaced paper with 1.5 pages of type followed by 1.5 pages of whitespace; any coloring in a table changing to black type in a black field; or a number of other bugs that I don't recall at the moment. (And of course these always seem to interfere with some requirement on a project I have to do.)
OpenOffice.org 2.x (I think) on a 550Mhz Thinkpad with 384 megs of RAM was vastly preferable for utility; even with 128 megs I frequently found OOo to be better able to do what I needed to do (formatting papers correctly).

On the other hand, the first word processor I use for long papers is Ted. It's fast and I've found that virtually everything I throw at it gets a proper round-trip. It's the least likely to mess up the paper; I don't recall any crashes except (a) when I pressed "redo" too many times in 2.22 and (b) after inserting several ~1 magabyte pictures in an 11-page paper.
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PostPosted: Fri 16 May 2014, 06:13    Post_subject:  

Current TED PETs around?
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PostPosted: Tue 20 May 2014, 12:12    Post_subject: Teds pet  

Hi gcmartin,
Quote:
Current TED PETs around?

you may find one ...
..whether in Quirky6s repo:
http://distro.ibiblio.org/quirky/quirky6/x86/packages/pet_packages-quirky6/ted-2.23-quirky6.pet
...or other compiles + how to get your locale in the nluug Teds repo:
http://www.nllgg.nl/Ted/
...or also browsing among the whole download repos list here (especially at the bottom end ... Wink ):
http://ftp.nluug.nl/pub/editors/ted/

I tried some of them on wheezy-3.5.2.11 and raring-3.9.9.2 ... without getting a segmentation fault --->seems to be distro independent ...but one never knows.

If needed, do not hesitate to compile it, as it is rather easy to compile (read infos on Mark de Does's Ted main page above. (I did it several times at the time its version upgraded to 2.23).

HTH Charlie
ps: daily using it (and loving its simplicity ...) since version 2.22 and 2.23 ... i really don't need more!
...Amazing..!: I keep updating a logbook.rtf document having 125 pages at now, with text and inserted images in it, that opens quite instantaneouly using Ted.

@Ibidem:
when having large images to be inserted, i use to reduce their weight using mtpaint:
1. using the Image/Scale change to ca. 1280x1750 (i.e. A4 format) or less;
2. when saving, choose jpeg format + reducing image quality to ca. 50% which also reduces the weight quite dramaticaly.
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slavvo67

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PostPosted: Tue 20 May 2014, 16:42    Post_subject:  

Remember that I said for its size. Hands down, I use LibreOffice for any real work. It's big, it's bulky, it's reliable! There's an Openoffice sfs file that's probably smaller and worth looking at. I've installed it but I haven't used it much.
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PostPosted: Wed 02 Jul 2014, 13:47    Post_subject: ted missing libs  

ted missing libs
Those who want use TED can do it s they like. No need to compare with other text writer. Each customer can use as he likes, no ?
Ted not working at home. I would have taken a glance.
Laissez Abiword aux masses populaires. Leave Abiword in peace with its thousands of users. and leave it as default wordprocessor in Puppies. I have it with Windows 7 too.
popular succes does not prove one product is better, it proves it fits people needs.
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PostPosted: Wed 02 Jul 2014, 17:03    Post_subject:  

Does KATE edit word processing documents, too?
Comparison here.

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PostPosted: Sun 10 Aug 2014, 13:36    Post_subject:  

Hi GC Martin:

I was going to explore Kate but decided against it when She had over 100 dependencies to install. Literally, the PPM had 11 tabs filled with dependencies so I decided to back away. Thank you for the suggestion, though. The article was enticing.

Best,

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wetterau

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PostPosted: Mon 01 Sep 2014, 12:42    Post_subject: Ted  

Hi, have used many word processors over the years and want to recommend Ted. The latest release 2.23 is excellent---fast, stable, all the core features: spell checking, image support, tables, font support, basic formatting, export to .ps, .pdf, .svg, .html, .txt, (default file type is .rtf). He, Mark, has improved the program steadily for years. Now it is really fine.
I would use Abiword only for converting .doc or .docx to .rtf for use with Ted and only if I had it installed. Other utilities can do this, too. Abiword works fine until it doesn't, which is all too often. Just my opinion.
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