Slacko 5.7 final - 8 March 2014

[Karl Godt]

Another building site :

PUPMODE=5

and ran shutdownconfig from console,

choose to save to file inside partition sdb6 on usb,

choose to change folder - renamed the folder as folderNEW ( appended NEW ),

the savefile was created correctly at the new place
exited to prompt,
typed reboot

and at the menu to choose the savefile
this new savefile on sdb6 did not show up,

though SAVEMARK file is in /initrd/mnt/dev_save top layer next to fsckme.flg
with content '6' .

The new savefile mounts correctly as
/dev/loop2: 0 /mnt/sdb6/WoofCEtestNEW/slackosave-2013_12_15.3fs
/dev/loop2 on /mnt/+mnt+sdb6+WoofCEtestNEW+slackosave-2013_12_15.3fs type ext3 (rw,relatime,errors=continue,user_xattr,acl,barrier=1,data=ordered)

[Karl Godt]

Another building site :


though SAVEMARK file is in /initrd/mnt/dev_save top layer next to fsckme.flg
with content '6' .

/etc/rc.d/PUPSTATE :
PUPMODE=13
PDEV1='sdb1'
DEV1FS='vfat'
PUPSFS='sdb1,vfat,/WoofCEtest/puppy_slacko_5.6.4.sfs'
PSAVEMARK=''
PSUBDIR='/WoofCEtest'

/etc/rc.d/rc.shutdown :
#v3.97 BK 5 mar 2008, handle PSAVEMARK, see /etc/rc.d/PUPSTATE, init script.
SAVEMARK="`echo -n "$SAVEPART" | rev | sed -e 's%[a-z].*%%' | rev`" #ex: sdc2 becomes 2.
echo -n "$SAVEMARK" > ${aMNTPT}${xPSUBDIR}/SAVEMARK #file in boot partition. 'init' script reads this. 101020

I am wondering if the file should have the name PSAVEMARK or just SAVEMARK .

[peebee]

The lxpanel system tray seems to have a problem with the new svg icons.

As you can see from the attached screenie, cpu usage goes to 100% and the icons for retrovol and firewall state never appear.

This phenomenon was seen to a lesser degree in Slacko5.6 where the Network icon in the system tray used svg icons - however the burst of 100% cpu usage was for a shortish defined period and then the icon did appear.

If anybody can suggest what diagnostic information to collect then I'm happy to try and provide clues as to what is happening.

Cheers
peebee

[sszindian]

Slacko-5.6.5

Fresh load into 'RAM' only, tried wifi connect... the only program that would connect was Frisbee!

Updated Slacko-5.6.3 to Slacko-5.6.5 Tried wifi connect... nothing would connect until I finally tried and deleted all previously saved network configurations (available function in Frisbee)... then, Frisbee was again the only program that would make the connection!

Wifi now working!!! Apparently deleting all previously saved wifi config's is a must on an upgrade where wifi did not work with prior Slacko's.

All your 'extra' efforts in the 5.6.5 build certainly show off mic! Nice piece of work!

On with the testing.

>>>---Indian------>

[Karl Godt]

The lxpanel system tray seems to have a problem with the new svg icons.
As you can see from the attached screenie, cpu usage goes to 100% and the icons for retrovol and firewall state never appear.

I would try to recompile lxpanel .

lxpanel_0.5.6.orig.tar.gz 1,049.6 kB
lxpanel_0.5.12.orig.tar.gz 2,000.8 kB
http://packages.debian.org/source/jessie/lxpanel

[01micko]

The lxpanel system tray seems to have a problem with the new svg icons.

As you can see from the attached screenie, cpu usage goes to 100% and the icons for retrovol and firewall state never appear.

I believe it's not the icons but the way lxpanel is starting them. Is there a conflict between lxpanel and openbox trying to start them? Which one is trying to start them?

They are started from the standard place which is $XDG_CONFIG_HOME/autostart/. If I start them manually ..

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xdg-open XDG_CONFIG_HOME/autostart/retrovol.desktop

there is no issue.

So my deduction is that it's either a bug in lxpanel, openbox or something in between.

Happy hunting!

[bigpup]

Slacko 5.6.5
Frugal to USB flash drive\
First boot

You have done some really good work on the initial settings screens.
It was very easy to get all the graphics settings changed, to what works best for this computer.
The first boot guess setup was OK, but I have a wide screen monitor that needs settings that are not normal.

One thing I miss when I first start the browser.
It would be nice to have the browser start at

file:///usr/share/doc/home.htm

This home page is very useful for a new user of Puppy.

Would probably only need to have the browser configured to use this as it's home page and not the standard Firefox first start web site.

[SFR]

RE: lxpanel

It's lxpanelx issue. The original lxpanel behaves ok with those icons.
Looks like that lxpanelx (or at least its tray plugin) is kinda buggy indeed - for example TrueCrypt's and JAVA apps' tray icons also aren't displayed properly, but I learned to live with this, in exchange for the ability to rearrange taskbar items manually (this feature should be available in every panel IMO; even M$ has implemented that since W7!).

I guess it works ok in 5.6, because the panel is already up and running when delayedrun is starting all tray apps.

Naturally, not knowing C, GTK, etc., I've no idea how to fix this, but temporugly [temporary+ugly] workaround could be to kill and restart those two tray apps...or get back to lxpanel.

Greetings!

[bigpup]

Slacko 5.6.5
Frugal to USB flash drive
Using save to entire USB flash drive option.

PPM (initial default setup)

Repositories showing in PPM are 5. OK.
Max number able to list at one time 5.

In configure PPM

6 repositories are selected initially, by default.

Too many checked.

The Puppy-noarch offical repository is not showing.
This one needs to be seen by a new user.

Need to un-check one of the other repositories for the default PPM config.

[01micko]

It's definitely a bug in lxpanelx.

Now, the re-entry in /root/startup/1-lxde-startup.sh @line 6 lxpanelctl restart is the cause, but I see why you do it, because the backgrounds aren't the right colour. You need to report this to the developer as it is a bug. Or switch to lxpanel.

[Deacon]

next alpha is out..

Go grab it.

This should be crazy fun. Let's see if Midori'll work again this time 'round!

Time to download and update the machine! (Outside of Midori, 5.6.3 was stable, though seemed to run a wee bit hotter for some reason)

[James C]

Quick run live pfix=ram of non-pae before I start doing installs....

All the basics working on initial boot, no troubles yet.

# report-video
VIDEO REPORT: Slacko Puppy, version 5.6.5

Chip description:
VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82865G Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02)

Requested by /etc/X11/xorg.conf:
Resolution (widthxheight, in pixels): 1024x768
Depth (bits, or planes): 24
Modules requested to be loaded: dbe

Probing Xorg startup log file (/var/log/Xorg.0.log):
Driver loaded (and currently in use): intel
Loaded modules: dbe dri dri2 extmod fb glx kbd mouse record

Actual rendering on monitor:
Resolution: 1024x768 pixels (270x203 millimeters)
Depth: 24 planes

...the above also recorded in /tmp/report-video
# glxgears
Running synchronized to the vertical refresh. The framerate should be
approximately the same as the monitor refresh rate.
378 frames in 5.0 seconds = 75.400 FPS
376 frames in 5.0 seconds = 75.144 FPS
376 frames in 5.0 seconds = 75.138 FPS
376 frames in 5.0 seconds = 75.128 FPS
376 frames in 5.0 seconds = 75.164 FPS
376 frames in 5.0 seconds = 75.143 FPS
376 frames in 5.0 seconds = 75.144 FPS
376 frames in 5.0 seconds = 75.143 FPS

-Computer-
Processor : 2x Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.00GHz
Memory : 2065MB (172MB used)
Machine Type : Physical machine
Operating System : Slacko Puppy - 5.6.5
User Name : root (root)
Date/Time : Sun 15 Dec 2013 05:51:15 PM CST
-Display-
Resolution : 1024x768 pixels
OpenGL Renderer : Mesa DRI Intel(R) 865G x86/MMX/SSE2
X11 Vendor : The X.Org Foundation
-Audio Devices-
Audio Adapter : ICH4 - Intel ICH5

-Version-
Kernel : Linux 3.10.21-4 (i686)
Version : #1 SMP Sat Nov 30 17:20:25 EST 2013
C Library : GNU C Library version 2.15 (stable)
Distribution : Slacko Puppy - 5.6.5

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# free
             total         used         free       shared      buffers
Mem:       2065668       567360      1498308            0        57520
-/+ buffers:             509840      1555828
Swap:      2150396            0      2150396
# 

[James C]

I almost never use the installer but for testing puposes went ahead and did a frugal install..... no problem. Naturally used an ext3 partition.

[James C]

Manual frugal install on the trusty Athlon XP box......looking good on this one too.

# report-video
VIDEO REPORT: Slacko Puppy, version 5.6.5

Chip description:
VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV18 [GeForce4 MX 440 AGP 8x] (rev c1)

Requested by /etc/X11/xorg.conf:
Resolution (widthxheight, in pixels): 1440x900
Depth (bits, or planes): 24
Modules requested to be loaded: dbe

Probing Xorg startup log file (/var/log/Xorg.0.log):
Driver loaded (and currently in use): nouveau
Loaded modules: dbe dri dri2 exa extmod fb glx kbd mouse record shadowfb

Actual rendering on monitor:
Resolution: 1440x900 pixels (380x238 millimeters)
Depth: 24 planes

...the above also recorded in /tmp/report-video
# glxgears
Running synchronized to the vertical refresh. The framerate should be
approximately the same as the monitor refresh rate.
1669 frames in 5.0 seconds = 333.583 FPS
2163 frames in 5.0 seconds = 432.443 FPS
2271 frames in 5.0 seconds = 454.087 FPS
2235 frames in 5.0 seconds = 446.952 FPS
2262 frames in 5.0 seconds = 452.386 FPS
2234 frames in 5.0 seconds = 446.780 FPS

-Computer-
Processor : AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2400+
Memory : 1033MB (190MB used)
Machine Type : Physical machine
Operating System : Slacko Puppy - 5.6.5
User Name : root (root)
Date/Time : Sun 15 Dec 2013 06:21:19 PM CST
-Display-
Resolution : 1440x900 pixels
OpenGL Renderer : Mesa DRI nv18 x86/MMX+/3DNow!+/SSE
X11 Vendor : The X.Org Foundation
-Audio Devices-
Audio Adapter : VIA8233 - VIA 8235

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# free
             total         used         free       shared      buffers
Mem:       1033480       739184       294296            0        59508
-/+ buffers:             679676       353804
Swap:      1228936            0      1228936
# 

[James C]

Live pfix=ram ......... display and sound working on initial boot but had to use SNS for net connection.

# report-video
VIDEO REPORT: Slacko Puppy, version 5.6.5

Chip description:
VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation C61 [GeForce 7025 / nForce 630a] (rev a2)

Requested by /etc/X11/xorg.conf:
Resolution (widthxheight, in pixels): 1024x768x16
Depth (bits, or planes): 24
Modules requested to be loaded: dbe

Probing Xorg startup log file (/var/log/Xorg.0.log):
Driver loaded (and currently in use): nouveau
Loaded modules: dbe dri dri2 exa extmod fb glx kbd mouse record shadowfb

Actual rendering on monitor:
Resolution: 1366x768 pixels (361x203 millimeters)
Depth: 24 planes

...the above also recorded in /tmp/report-video
# glxgears
2631 frames in 5.0 seconds = 525.824 FPS
2935 frames in 5.0 seconds = 586.911 FPS
2943 frames in 5.0 seconds = 588.533 FPS
2905 frames in 5.0 seconds = 580.946 FPS
2929 frames in 5.0 seconds = 585.767 FPS

-Computer-
Processor : 4x AMD Athlon(tm) II X4 620 Processor
Memory : 2853MB (200MB used)
Machine Type : Physical machine
Operating System : Slacko Puppy - 5.6.5
User Name : root (root)
Date/Time : Sun 15 Dec 2013 10:50:21 PM CST
-Display-
Resolution : 1366x768 pixels
OpenGL Renderer : Gallium 0.4 on llvmpipe (LLVM 0x300)
X11 Vendor : The X.Org Foundation
-Audio Devices-
Audio Adapter : HDA-Intel - HDA NVidia

-Version-
Kernel : Linux 3.10.21-4 (i686)
Version : #1 SMP Sat Nov 30 17:20:25 EST 2013
C Library : GNU C Library version 2.15 (stable)
Distribution : Slacko Puppy - 5.6.5

[James C]

Installed a few pets....still working.......

[mavrothal]

Fresh install and everything works ok and looks beautiful
Maybe is time to start uncluttering the Desktop/System/Setup menus...

Updating from 5.6.3 to 5.6.5 had issues though. Tray applets did not load but they do lad if called from ~/.config/autostart.
The shutdown Menu also is not updated. rc.update and/or jwm-xdgmenus may need some work

[Volhout]

I have an older desktop system with XP and puppy linux frugal installed on the NTFS partition. I did not have problems with it. Benefit is that you do not have to change anything in the drive partitioning, and have a quick startup (harddisk is faster than USB).

Few weeks ago I tried the same on a laptop. After the laptop went into hibernation, and I ran a session with puppy (multiboot via Grub4dos) the partions got corrupted (according to Windows, after I booted XP again).
I could repair the damage, but after that it happened again. Even until the point that I lost XP (that may have been me, by my clusmyness).

Maybe we should disable this "feature" of puppy linux (I mean... installing frugal inside an NTFS partition), and force the user to create a separate partition. Especially the rising number of laptop users.

This may not be the right thread for this post (it is more intrinsic in puppy in general), but it happened while using Slacko....

[sszindian]

Hmmm... frisbee wifi was working great for a full day then today after an hour on the internet it just decided to 'drop'. No way to get it started again, locked computer up, only a cold hard shutdown worked!

Rebooted... wifi connected then dropped on first internet try?

Plugged in etho cable... internet automatically found and connected.

Looks like more work is needed for wifi connections (at least for this setup)?

AE1000 Linksys (usb stick)
rt2800usb (module used)

>>>---Indian------>

[SFR]

Hi Mick

Snapmerge once again - a small inconsistency.
While handling directories, dev/snd is excluded:

find . -mount -type d | tail +2 | sed -e 's/\.\///' | grep -v -E '^mnt|^initrd|^proc|^sys|^tmp|^root/tmp|^\.wh\.|/\.wh\.|^dev/\.|^dev/fd|^dev/pts|^dev/shm|^dev/snd|^var/tmp' |

Whereas the part responsible for files does not exclude it:

find . -mount -not \( -regex '.*/\.wh\.[^/]*' -type f \) -not -type d | sed -e 's/\.\///' | grep -v -E '^mnt|^initrd|^proc|^sys|^tmp|^pup_|^zdrv_|^root/tmp|_zdrv_|^dev/\.|^dev/fd|^dev/pts|^dev/shm|^\.wh\.|^var/run|^root/ftpd|^var/tmp|\.XLOADED$' | grep -v -E -i '\.thumbnails|\.trash|trash/|\.part$' |

Nothing serious, but as a result we're getting many unnecessary 'cp: cannot create special file '/initrd/pup_ro1/dev/snd/hwC0D0': No such file or directory' (and so on) error msgs.

BTW, what do you think - is it really good idea to exclude also .trash? I remember my disappointment when I had some files left in the trash and found it empty after reboot.
It was like: "dear user, we know better which files you need and which you don't".

Greetings!