My report on Quirky 6.0

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#141 Post by Flash »

charlie6 wrote:- even if syslinux-4.0.5 is installed (thanks Barry !), the created fat16 partition is told as boot by GParted, but actually won't boot;
- i did not succeed in using GParted to get a bootable fat16_partition; i even have wondered if GParted could do it ... :? ;
Why in the world do you want to use FAT16? (If that's not a typo and you really meant FAT32.) Just curious. :?

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#142 Post by ETP »

Hi Flash,

The first partition on the stick (The boot partition) is 16MB in size. It is created, formatted and has its parameters set by Barry’s install script. A partition has to be > 32MB to be formatted as FAT32 so a FAT16 format is correct.

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Puppy Pets in Quirky6

#143 Post by don »

As a long time Puppy user, but with no coding ability and a 93 year old brain, I am pleasantry surprised that I had no difficulty at all in getting Quirky6 installed. It has been running for several days with no problems - just minor annoyances over my inability to set up some of my favorite features. Somewhat to my surprise I find that some puppy pets do work, but others do not. For example, pupclockset and xonclock are OK, but pupshutdown is not.

Is there a way to recognize (predict) which pets will run in Quirky and and which will not?

Is there any possibility that someday Firefox will be able run in Quirky. I do not like Seamonkey because of my inability to cope with the very small fonts used in the tool bars.

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#144 Post by Flash »

There is a way to increase the size of the text in SeaMonkey's toolbars, etc.. I forget what it is, but I think it involves entering about:config in SeaMonkey's address window, then finding the appropriate setting and changing it. (Try the lines beginning with font. Select one, right-click on it and enter a new value for the minimum font size. You may have to restart SeaMonkey to see the change.)

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#145 Post by James C »

I've used Theme Font & Size Changer before with good results.

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-us/seamon ... e-changer/

gcmartin

Version Upgrade Manager from Barry Kauler

#146 Post by gcmartin »

@BarryK, I dont know if this question is consistent with your latest creation "Version Upgrade Manager" but is there a way to create an bootable ISO from that tool. as well, without the need for the original ISO/IMG file (I'm thinking everything needed to create a copy of the system, in the form of an ISO, is present in the running system and this utility system service)?

In any event, this product is providing guidance in new areas of Puppy support.

Thanks for your accomplishment.
Edited: The first paragraph to make clear the request for understanding
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Re: Puppy Pets in Quirky6

#147 Post by BarryK »

don wrote:As a long time Puppy user, but with no coding ability and a 93 year old brain, I am pleasantry surprised that I had no difficulty at all in getting Quirky6 installed. It has been running for several days with no problems - just minor annoyances over my inability to set up some of my favorite features. Somewhat to my surprise I find that some puppy pets do work, but others do not. For example, pupclockset and xonclock are OK, but pupshutdown is not.

Is there a way to recognize (predict) which pets will run in Quirky and and which will not?

Is there any possibility that someday Firefox will be able run in Quirky. I do not like Seamonkey because of my inability to cope with the very small fonts used in the tool bars.
I will get around to weeding out all PETs offered in the Package Manager that don't work in Quirky6.

pupshutdown is not appropriate, Quirky doesn't need any shutdown application. There is NO SESSION SAVE-FILE.

The size of all fonts in SeaMonkey are adjustable. If not in the Preferences menu, there is a file in /root/.mozilla/seamonkey/3o1ptd5r.default/chrome that can be edited.

Firefox could be compiled for Quirky6.
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Font size of Seamonkey's menus

#148 Post by don »

BarryK wrote:The size of all fonts in SeaMonkey are adjustable. If not in the Preferences menu, there is a file in /root/.mozilla/seamonkey/3o1ptd5r.default/chrome that can be edited.
Thank you, Barry K. The chrome file works very nicely.

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#149 Post by BarryK »

Q 6.1 is out, see my blog announcement:

http://bkhome.org/news/?viewDetailed=00036

Although there is a Service Pack to upgrade from 6.0.1, unless you particularly want to do that, you might prefer to do a new installation, so as to have a nice pristine 6.1 -- then you can take a system snapshot, for recovery back to the original state if required.

Note, the install scripts, 'install-quirky-to-drive.sh' and 'install-quirky-to-partition.sh' have various improvements, so grab the latest.
[url]https://bkhome.org/news/[/url]

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about getting an USB boot partition

#150 Post by charlie6 »

Hi,
maybe this is far from being relevant to Q6.0.1 ...
runnig Pemasu's raring-3.9.9.2 + embedded syslinux-3.73
this works:
- create boot USB lash using Menu/Setup/BootFlash install at the condition that the wanted puppies .iso archive is located in / or /root; if that .iso archive is located somewhere else (i.e. on an external USB hdd), then the error message «Sorry error mounting USB drive» is displayed (i have tried to mount the usb drive manualy without success);
The resulting usb key boots OK!

Here, this does not work:
- on the same rraring-3.9.9.2 session, if installed the syslinux-4.05 pet downloaded from quirky-6.0.1 repo, then doing the above BootFlash install results in getting a non bootable USB key: trying to boot from it results in «no bootable disk - please insert a bootable floppy ...blablibla» prompt displayed.

cheers, charlie

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#151 Post by Sage »

6.1 : Method D. Typo .gz read .xz
On very old boards, it may be necessary to use PLOP or some FDD adjuct to achieve boot-up from a USB stick. On failrly recent, but not 1-2yr old boards, don't forget to switch back on the 'legacy/DOS USB' function in BIOS to activate USB booting from F8 or whatever the BIOS permits.

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#152 Post by timothyli »

Quirky 6.1 runs great on my Sony 16GB USB 3.0 Micro Vault stick on a Lenovo X201 i5 with 4GB of RAM :) However, if I use a cheap no name USB stick, it is a bit laggy, which is expected.

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My report on Quirky 6.0

#153 Post by Billtoo »

I did a fresh install of Quirky 6.1 to a hard drive partition.

video-info-glx 1.5.3 Tue 31 Dec 2013 on Quirky 6.1 Linux 3.12.6 i686
0.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation GF108 [GeForce GT 430] (rev a1)
oem: NVIDIA
product: GF108 Board - 1071v1p1 Chip Rev

X Server: Xorg Driver: nvidia
X.Org version: 1.14.3
dimensions: 1920x1080 pixels (513x292 millimeters)
depth of root window: 24 planes

Number of GPUs: 1

GPU #0:
Name : GeForce GT 430
PCI BusID : PCI:1:0:0

Number of Display Devices: 1

Display Device 0 (DFP-0):
EDID Name : HP S2331
Minimum HorizSync : 24.000 kHz
Maximum HorizSync : 94.000 kHz
Minimum VertRefresh : 50 Hz
Maximum VertRefresh : 76 Hz
Maximum PixelClock : 170.000 MHz
Maximum Width : 1920 pixels
Maximum Height : 1080 pixels
Preferred Width : 1920 pixels
Preferred Height : 1080 pixels
Preferred VertRefresh : 60 Hz
Physical Width : 510 mm
Physical Height : 290 mm


AMD Phenom(tm) II X4 810 Processor
Core 0: @2600 1: @2600 2: @2600 3: @2600 MHz

Just started testing, I found that trying to open the terminal by
right clicking in a folder doesn't work.
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My report on Quirky 6.0

#154 Post by Billtoo »

I installed to an 8gb SDHC card, running on my emachines D620 laptop.
# report-video
VIDEO REPORT: Quirky, version 6.1

Chip description:
VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI RS690M [Radeon X1200 Series]

Requested by /etc/X11/xorg.conf:
Resolution (widthxheight, in pixels): 1280x800
Depth (bits, or planes): 24
Modules requested to be loaded: synaptics dbe

Probing Xorg startup log file (/var/log/Xorg.0.log):
Loaded modules: dbe extmod fb kbd mouse shadow synaptics

Actual rendering on monitor:
Resolution: 1280x800 pixels (338x211 millimeters)
Depth: 24 planes

I installed a few pets and they are working well.

I installed grun 0.93 which is an application launcher that I find
handy to have.
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#155 Post by BarryK »

Sage wrote:6.1 : Method D. Typo .gz read .xz
On very old boards, it may be necessary to use PLOP or some FDD adjuct to achieve boot-up from a USB stick. On failrly recent, but not 1-2yr old boards, don't forget to switch back on the 'legacy/DOS USB' function in BIOS to activate USB booting from F8 or whatever the BIOS permits.
We need to bring back WakePup2, developed by forum member 'pakt'. haven't seen any posts from pakt on the forum for sometime.

Here are some links:

http://puppylinux.org/wikka/WakePup2
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=7979
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=80291

We actually used to include a compressed 1.44MB floppy disk WakePup image in Puppy, back in early pup 2.x days.
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#156 Post by BarryK »

timothyli wrote:Quirky 6.1 runs great on my Sony 16GB USB 3.0 Micro Vault stick on a Lenovo X201 i5 with 4GB of RAM :) However, if I use a cheap no name USB stick, it is a bit laggy, which is expected.
Yes, I have been tempted to buy a USB3 stick!

I noticed, Officeworks here advertising USB2 8GB sticks for A$4.95 each -- they are coming down.

They don't have the LED activity light though -- I do so prefer a Flash stick to have an activity light, so can see when the stick is actually doing something!
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#157 Post by CHLee »

I upgraded from 6.01 to 6.1 with the service_pack-6.0.1_TO_6.1-quirky6.pet.
The Upgrade manager and Snapshot manager inside the Multimedia menu. ??
I tested the Snapshot manager, it made a Snapshot(in /audit/snapshots/). It size was 6MB, very nice. I haven't test the restore function yet. Thank Barry.

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#158 Post by James C »

Fresh install of Quirky 6.1 to an ext3 hard drive partition. No problems.

# report-video
VIDEO REPORT: Quirky, version 6.1

Chip description:
VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation NV18 [GeForce4 MX 440 AGP 8x] (rev c1)

Requested by /etc/X11/xorg.conf:
Resolution (widthxheight, in pixels): 1440x900
Depth (bits, or planes): 24
Modules requested to be loaded: dbe

Probing Xorg startup log file (/var/log/Xorg.0.log):
Loaded modules: dbe extmod fb kbd mouse shadow

Actual rendering on monitor:
Resolution: 1440x900 pixels (380x238 millimeters)
Depth: 24 planes

...the above also recorded in /tmp/report-video
#

-Computer-
Processor : AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2400+
Memory : 1033MB (132MB used)
Machine Type : Physical machine
Operating System : Quirky - 6.1
User Name : root (root)
Date/Time : Wed 01 Jan 2014 12:34:13 AM CST
-Display-
Resolution : 1440x900 pixels
OpenGL Renderer : Unknown
X11 Vendor : The X.Org Foundation
-Audio Devices-
Audio Adapter : VIA8233 - VIA 8235

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# uname -a
Linux puppypc19366 3.12.6 #1 SMP Wed Dec 25 02:35:43 GMT 2013 i686 GNU/Linux
# free
             total         used         free       shared      buffers
Mem:       1033496       294180       739316            0         9744
-/+ buffers:             284436       749060
Swap:      1228936            0      1228936
# 
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#160 Post by James C »

Another hard drive install, once again no problems.

# report-video
VIDEO REPORT: Quirky, version 6.1

Chip description:
VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82865G Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02)

Requested by /etc/X11/xorg.conf:
Resolution (widthxheight, in pixels): 1024x768
Depth (bits, or planes): 24
Modules requested to be loaded: dbe

Probing Xorg startup log file (/var/log/Xorg.0.log):
Loaded modules: dbe extmod fb kbd mouse shadow

Actual rendering on monitor:
Resolution: 1024x768 pixels (270x203 millimeters)
Depth: 24 planes

...the above also recorded in /tmp/report-video
#

-Computer-
Processor : 2x Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.00GHz
Memory : 2065MB (167MB used)
Machine Type : Physical machine
Operating System : Quirky - 6.1
User Name : root (root)
Date/Time : Wed 01 Jan 2014 01:06:17 AM CST
-Display-
Resolution : 1024x768 pixels
OpenGL Renderer : Unknown
X11 Vendor : The X.Org Foundation
-Audio Devices-
Audio Adapter : ICH4 - Intel ICH5

Code: Select all

# uname -r
3.12.6
# free
             total         used         free       shared      buffers
Mem:       2065684       341876      1723808            0        10072
-/+ buffers:             331804      1733880
Swap:      2150396            0      2150396
#

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