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L18L
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 Posted: Tue 14 Jan 2014, 05:43 Post subject:
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| jamesbond wrote: | | ... in scripts "gettext" is another application, not a C function linked into the main executable (in which case it doesn't need to be exported). Same reason for gtk-server. |
Thank you, now I also know why TEXTDOMAIN has to be exported.
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jamesbond
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| Posted: Tue 14 Jan 2014, 10:28 Post subject:
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No worries.
So - what do you think of this:
| jamesbond wrote: | Note
| Code: | | [ -z $TEXTDOMAIN ] && export TEXTDOMAIN=fatdog |
causes
| Quote: | | - TEXTDOMAIN becoming unchangeable. |
On the contrary it means you can export TEXTDOMAIN=xxx before you launch the app and the app will use that "xxx" as the text-domain instead "fatdog". The question is, whether this is valuable enough functionality to justify modifying momanager for recognise it?
| Quote: | | - momanager to not recognize the script as using gettext translations |
As above. |
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| Posted: Tue 14 Jan 2014, 11:57 Post subject:
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| jamesbond wrote: | So - what do you think of this:
| jamesbond wrote: | Note
| Code: | | [ -z $TEXTDOMAIN ] && export TEXTDOMAIN=fatdog |
causes
| Quote: | | - TEXTDOMAIN becoming unchangeable. |
On the contrary it means you can export TEXTDOMAIN=xxx before you launch the app and the app will use that "xxx" as the text-domain instead "fatdog". The question is, whether this is valuable enough functionality to justify modifying momanager for recognise it?
| Quote: | | - momanager to not recognize the script as using gettext translations |
As above. |
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momanager uses find '^export TEXTDOMAIN='
The app needs a TEXTDOMAIN defined by the developer.
An app could use more than one TEXTDOMAINs.
If we had NOT defined the TEXTDOMAIN inside the script we would need an additional file containing all the scripts that use a TEXTDOMAIN.
I cannot see any good reason to export TEXTDOMAIN before launching the app.
That's all for now.
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| Posted: Wed 15 Jan 2014, 08:31 Post subject:
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Ok, "export TEXTDOMAIN" it is.
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Posted: Thu 16 Jan 2014, 08:57 Post subject:
Internationalization of Fatdog
Subject description: index, home and faq |
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| Code: | #!/bin/sh
# fhelp is fatdog's internationalized help
# each language in their own subdirectory linked back to original
#
# Austrian help starts at /usr/share/doc/help/de_AT/home.htm (if any)
# German help starts at /usr/share/doc/help/de/home.htm (if any)
# English help starts at /usr/share/doc/home.htm
#
for i in help/${LANG%.*}/ help/${LANG%_*}/ ""
do
h_file=/usr/share/doc/${i}home.htm
[ -f $h_file ] && break
done
#echo $h_file
defaulthtmlviewer file://$h_file |
I have used this file (fhelp under /usr/local/bin) to start translation of home and some pages in faq.
@jamesbond
take it and change menu entry for help to "fhelp" please.
I have made translations directly in text editor geany:
Some notes, howto create these translations will follow. EDIT: done... see 9 posts down
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Posted: Sat 18 Jan 2014, 14:19 Post subject:
Re: Internationalization of Fatdog
Subject description: index, home and faq |
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| L18L wrote: | @jamesbond
take it and change menu entry for help to "fhelp" please.
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Done, thanks, but Fatdog actually doesn't have a menu entry for "help". It is accessible directly from the browser's homepage. May be I should add one, hmmm ...
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Posted: Sat 18 Jan 2014, 22:52 Post subject:
Fatdog Chinese Language pets
Subject description: Unable to print chinese character in menu button |
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I am making new Chinese Language pets for fatdog64 630rc2 and runs into this challenge:
1. the starting menu at the lower left hand corner of the screen shows a fatdog logo with the word "Menu"
2. I think this is controlled by /etc/xdg/razor/razor-panel/panel.conf 2nd section [mainmenu] line 3:
English version: text=Menu
3. when I changed the above line to Chinese:
text=菜单 or text=菜單 and restart X, the menu is showing some unprintable characters
the attached picture shows the before/after English/Chinese menus
Does anyone know how to fix this?
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L18L
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Posted: Sun 19 Jan 2014, 06:31 Post subject:
Re: Fatdog Chinese Language pets
Subject description: Unable to print chinese character in menu button |
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| icake wrote: | | Does anyone know how to fix this? |
Sorry, no idea how to fix this.
It is not specific to Chinese, just no UTF-8 support I think.
| Code: | [mainmenu]
showText=true
type=mainmenu
text=Menü
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Posted: Sun 19 Jan 2014, 09:58 Post subject:
Internationalization of Fatdog
Subject description: UTF-8 characters in Start menu |
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Here are my 2 cents input on how to tackle this UTF-8 label:
1. In a perfect world, /etc/xdg/razor/razor-panel/panel.conf should be able to print UTF-8 characters. It cannot. We can wait for the next version(s) and hope UTF-8 will be correctly shown soon.
2. We can recompile the program from source with UTF-8 enabled. However I do not think the effort is justified.
3. A temporary fix is to hide the label text (showtext=false) and replace the fatdog icon with a new icon with fatdog logo on the left and UTF-8 characters on the right, all in one image file. This requires the name of the file controlling what icon to print. I still cannot find this file and wonder whether someone might know the answer.
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L18L
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Posted: Mon 20 Jan 2014, 05:27 Post subject:
fatdog-control-panel
Subject description: bug ? |
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/usr/sbin/fatdog-package-manager-library.awk and fatdog-control-panel.sh installed
(downloaded, moved to /usr/sbin and made executable)
| Code: | #!/bin/dash
# Fatdog Package Manager
# A puppy-compatible replacement for Puppy Package Manager |
puppy-compatible sounds good.
| Code: | # fatdog-package-manager.sh
awk: Diese Option benötigt ein Argument -- »f«
BusyBox v1.22.0.git (2013-07-05 02:56:35 WIT) multi-call binary.
Usage: awk [OPTIONS] [AWK_PROGRAM] [FILE]...
-v VAR=VAL Set variable
-F SEP Use SEP as field separator
-f FILE Read program from FILE |
Argument of -f is blanc, see | Code: | #
# which fatdog-package-manager-library.awk
# |
Hope that helps
EDIT
Overriding "which" | Code: | AWK_LIB=$(which fatdog-package-manager-library.awk)
AWK_LIB=/usr/sbin/fatdog-package-manager-library.awk |
makes the error messages disappear but slows down performance.
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Posted: Mon 20 Jan 2014, 07:22 Post subject:
Re: Internationalization of Fatdog
Subject description: UTF-8 characters in Start menu |
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| icake wrote: | Here are my 2 cents input on how to tackle this UTF-8 label:
1. In a perfect world, /etc/xdg/razor/razor-panel/panel.conf should be able to print UTF-8 characters. It cannot. We can wait for the next version(s) and hope UTF-8 will be correctly shown soon.
2. We can recompile the program from source with UTF-8 enabled. However I do not think the effort is justified. |
I can't answer this two. I've asked kirk.
| Quote: | | 3. A temporary fix is to hide the label text (showtext=false) and replace the fatdog icon with a new icon with fatdog logo on the left and UTF-8 characters on the right, all in one image file. This requires the name of the file controlling what icon to print. I still cannot find this file and wonder whether someone might know the answer. |
I think the filename can't be changed (it's mainmenu.svg) but what you can change is the "theme". The default theme is "ambiance", you can copy the entire directory (in /usr/share/razor/themes), change the theme name (e.g. ambience-de), and tell razor-panel to use that theme in /etc/xdg/razor/razor.conf. Disclaimer: haven't tried it myself 
| L18L wrote: | | Argument of -f is blanc, see |
That's because you're supposed to chmod +x fatdog-package-manager-library.awk too. Or just override the stuff like you did - that should work too.
| Quote: | | makes the error messages disappear but slows down performance. |
Now this is annoying  How much slower? Where is it slow (initial startup?).
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| Quote: | | puppy-compatible sounds good. |
Yes, but you need to know which version of PPM it is compatible with  - the very earliest one (puppy 4.x). In fact, Puppy's PPM is still in Fatdog, just run /usr/local/petget/pkg_chooser.sh and you'll be greeted with something very familiar  (and it still works - whatever is installed by FPM can be uninstalled by PPM and vice versa).
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| Posted: Mon 20 Jan 2014, 09:11 Post subject:
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| Quote: | icake wrote:
Here are my 2 cents input on how to tackle this UTF-8 label:
1. In a perfect world, /etc/xdg/razor/razor-panel/panel.conf should be able to print UTF-8 characters. It cannot. We can wait for the next version(s) and hope UTF-8 will be correctly shown soon.
2. We can recompile the program from source with UTF-8 enabled. However I do not think the effort is justified.
I can't answer this two. I've asked kirk. |
I removed all of the localization files from razorqt-panel, which is what we have normally done in the past since everything was english only and we try to keep things as small as possible. For Fatdog64-700 we will have to reconsider that. I've attached a pet with the razorqt-panel localization files. I just happened to still have that around. Hope that helps.
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L18L
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Posted: Mon 20 Jan 2014, 09:50 Post subject:
Re: Internationalization of Fatdog
Subject description: awk issue |
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| jamesbond wrote: | | L18L wrote: | | Argument of -f is blanc, see |
That's because you're supposed to chmod +x fatdog-package-manager-library.awk too. Or just override the stuff like you did - that should work too. |
That's it. Has not been executable.
| Quote: | | Quote: | | makes the error messages disappear but slows down performance. |
Now this is annoying How much slower? Where is it slow (initial startup?). |
| Code: | | time populate_all_pkg |
does not work. Therefore just the raw seconds:
AWK_LIB=$(which fatdog-package-manager-library.awk)  15sec
AWK_LIB= 5sec and error messages in console
But I do not see any difference in GUI output.
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L18L
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Posted: Mon 20 Jan 2014, 10:15 Post subject:
Re: Internationalization of Fatdog
Subject description: index, home and faq |
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| L18L wrote: | | Some notes, howto create these translations will follow. |
Or just a shell script (store it where ever you like or just paste it to terminal):
| Code: | #!/bin/sh
# create translation files for fatdog's home and faqs
# /usr/share/doc/home/htm must be translated first
# /usr/share/doc/faqs/faq.html must be translated secondly
# choose from faqs directory which one to translate
# functions
go() { echo "
$1
Press ENTER to continue or Ctrl_C to cancel"; read x; }
create_file() {
from=$1
to=$2
go "Convert $from to $to --to-code=UTF-8"
iconv --from-code=ASCII --to-code=UTF-8 $from --output=$to
go "Insert language and change charset to UTF-8"
sed -i "s/<html>/<html lang=\"$L\">/" $to
sed -i 's/charset=ISO-8859-1/charset=UTF-8/' $to
go "Set base for all links"
sed -i "s#<head>#<head>${BASE}#" $to
go "Some style"
sed -i 's@</head>@<style type="text/css">#container {max-width:44em;margin:auto;} h1 img {height:100px;margin:0 2em -.1em 0;} h1 {text-align:center;} .translated {text-align:right;font-size:67%;}</style></head>@' $to
echo "Set link back to original"
sed -i "s#</body>#<p class="translated">Translated from the <a href="$from">English Original</a></p></body>#" $to
go "That's all I could do for you.
Note, properties of this file is yet shown as ASCII, when you have entered the first non-ASCII word then it will be shown as UTF-8.
The file $to will be opened in text editor geany now
Happy translating"
geany $to
}
# /functions
L=${LANG%_*}
# create subdirs for language
for i in /usr/share/doc/help /usr/share/doc/faqs; do mkdir -p $i/$L; done
for i in /usr/share/doc/help/$L/home.htm /usr/share/doc/faqs/$L/faq.html; do
[ -f $i ] && continue
case $i in
*home*) f=/usr/share/doc/home.htm; BASE='<base a href="../../">' ;;
*faq*) f=/usr/share/doc/faqs/faq.html BASE='<base a href="../">';;
esac
create_file $f $i
done # home.htm and faqs/faq.html translated
cd /usr/share/doc/faqs
while true; do # translate one or some or all faq
f=$1
until [ `ls ${f}* | wc -w` -eq 1 ]; do
echo ""; ls ${f}*.htm*; echo ""; read f
done
f=`ls ${f}*`
BASE='<base a href="../">'
create_file $f ${L}/$f
done # break endless loop by pressing Ctrl-C
cd - > /dev/null |
You might
- translate line 30 (Translated from the <a href="$from">English Original</a>) to your language....
- change style
EDIT
- override an already translated file
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Posted: Mon 20 Jan 2014, 12:01 Post subject:
Re: Internationalization of Fatdog
Subject description: awk issue |
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| L18L wrote: | | Code: | | time populate_all_pkg |
does not work. |
No, of course not. This is dash we're talking about (bash is more versatile and can do that - dash can only "time" external commands and not internal functions).
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Therefore just the raw seconds:
AWK_LIB=$(which fatdog-package-manager-library.awk) 15sec |
This is odd - "which" shouldn't take that long. You need to check your system. Anyway, I've hardcoded the location to /usr/sbin rather than doing 'which'.
| Quote: | | But I do not see any difference in GUI output. |
You're not supposed to see any difference. Only shorter delays. Which isn't happening too
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