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musher0


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PostPosted: Wed 08 Jan 2014, 17:50    Post_subject:
Sub_title: KSO Spreadsheets not funny...
 

Hello, all.

I chanced upon a bug in KSO Spreadsheets. You cannot have the listing "- Automobile" in
KSO Spreadsheets! It says the name is undefined... Try it, you'll see!

Or is it just me? Maybe KSO doesn't like the make of my car? Razz hehe.

But no problems in KSO's "Writer" yet.

BFN.

musher0
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nmlkngdm

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PostPosted: Wed 08 Jan 2014, 17:53    Post_subject:  

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i'm leaving mine up. you're not stealing business from them, just allowing more people the chance to use the free version of their software--you're helping them advertise, if anything...

I'll follow suit with Puppus Dogfellow. Thanks for the notice though musher0, and if I do get a notice to take it down, I have no problem taking it down even though it would be unfortunate. It's never the lastest version that they provide on wps-community.org - right now it's 4244 from them, then for windows it's 4480 for free version, and 4490 for professional version (maybe as long as they don't compile the latest versions, it doesn't breach any legalities?)

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You could try the lupusuper iso if you haven't done so already (precise kernel - 3.2.48 or above) and see if Kingsoft works on that, unless glibc and other libraries remain a constant throughout rerwin's builds (not an expert on glibc). There's nothing wrong with using Softmaker.

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nmlkngdm

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PostPosted: Wed 08 Jan 2014, 17:58    Post_subject:
Sub_title: KSO Spreadsheets not funny...
 

musher0 wrote:
I chanced upon a bug in KSO Spreadsheets. You cannot have the listing "- Automobile" in KSO Spreadsheets! It says the name is undefined...

Try using a single quote in front of "- Automobile" - e.g. type in '- Automobile (add that single quote in front, without it I believe Spreadsheets thinks you're using that cell for a formula or number)
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PostPosted: Wed 08 Jan 2014, 18:07    Post_subject:
Sub_title: KSO Spreadsheets not funny...
 

nmlkngdm wrote:
musher0 wrote:
I chanced upon a bug in KSO Spreadsheets. You cannot have the listing "- Automobile" in KSO Spreadsheets! It says the name is undefined...

Try using a single quote in front of "- Automobile" - e.g. type in '- Automobile (add that single quote in front, without it I believe Spreadsheets thinks you're using that cell for a formula or number)


Your trick works, thanks. However, I had a whole listing with a dash in front of them and the "- Automobile" entry was the only one singled out. Strange.

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PostPosted: Wed 08 Jan 2014, 18:10    Post_subject:  

Also thanks, guys, for your input on the copyright issue.

@nmlkngdm: I hadn't thought that this is a "community" issue.
I guess we're in the clear because of that.

BFN.

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PostPosted: Wed 08 Jan 2014, 18:24    Post_subject:  

@keniv:

FYI, Médor, from the French side of the forum, has had success loading KSO in Lucid 528.

He opened the sfs, included the libstdc++ library from Precise in it, and then redid the sfs
without the xz compression (which ups the weight of the sfs to ~95 Mb).

BFN.

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PostPosted: Sat 11 Jan 2014, 18:34    Post_subject:  

musher0 wrote:
@nmlkngdm: I hadn't thought that this is a "community" issue. I guess we're in the clear because of that.

I hope you're right.
musher0 wrote:
I had a whole listing with a dash in front of them and the "- Automobile" entry was the only one singled out. Strange.

Try different variations or if you're not too far into your file, try on a new spreadsheet.
' - Automobile (space in front of the hyphen/after the quote)
'-Automobile (no spaces)
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PostPosted: Thu 16 Jan 2014, 12:59    Post_subject:  

@nmlkngdm

Thanks for the text formatting tips.

BFN.

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NickAu


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PostPosted: Sat 25 Jan 2014, 01:57    Post_subject:  

KingsoftOffice-9.1.0.4244~a12p3_i386.pet 202MB

Working on 5.7.1 Precise (fatty)
Installed to hdd

Thank You

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makropo


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PostPosted: Fri 07 Mar 2014, 06:23    Post_subject:  

As a matter of interest, Kingsoft Writer shows Thai text formatted in a way which is very difficult to read. The software seems to break up clusters of letters randomly. Until this is fixed, it won't make much headway in this country. I tried both the full sfs and musher0's version with only western fonts and got the same result with both. I wonder if this happens with other non-western and non-Chinese texts.
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PostPosted: Fri 07 Mar 2014, 09:22    Post_subject:  

It also does not do a true conversion of Word dox (i.e. spacing issues with fonts, etc.). It's a nice little product that I recommend on tablets. I still prefer ABI Word (must be 2.8.6) for Puppy (light and does the job).
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PostPosted: Fri 07 Mar 2014, 18:55    Post_subject:  

makropo wrote:
As a matter of interest, Kingsoft Writer shows Thai text formatted in a way which is very difficult to read. The software seems to break up clusters of letters randomly. Until this is fixed, it won't make much headway in this country. I tried both the full sfs and musher0's version with only western fonts and got the same result with both. I wonder if this happens with other non-western and non-Chinese texts.


On this subject of characters, I'll add that KingSoft does not allow typing French accented
characters.

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PostPosted: Thu 10 Apr 2014, 22:16    Post_subject:  

To correct my previous post, after serious consideration about ABI Word, I find it has too many flaws for anything but light editing. See my other posts in the forum about the Delete Button issue. It's a major flaw! Kingsoft's not the one for serious everyday use, either.
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zagreb999

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PostPosted: Sat 19 Apr 2014, 11:33    Post_subject: KSO-western, Problem insert number pages
Sub_title: Kingsoft-Western- No insert number pages
 

Thank you very much for
Western Kingsoft O. It is great!
Much better than MS Office.


But it is impossible to insert
number of pages.
Can you resolve this problem?

Thanks in advance!
Greetings.
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Tombombadil

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PostPosted: Thu 24 Apr 2014, 04:57    Post_subject: Looks nice,but too many issues. Better: SoftMaker FreeOffice  

Tried out Kingsoft Office, ui looks great, but it has many quirks ... it's English and Chinese only - locales, dictionaries and supported standards. There are problems with regional standards, e.g. spreadsheets cannot be used in Europe, because it's hardcoded to use dot instead of comma for decimal separator. It also changes Windows regional settings at every launch of any Kingsoft Office app, making big problems for other apps... just to name a few ... and its interoperability with Microsoft Office is unsatisfactory (especially when it comes to larger xml files).

My preference amongst all free office suites is still SoftMaker FreeOffice (freeoffice.com) - compared to Kingsoft Office, ui looks unspectacular, but it is effective and comfortable. No issues, no quirks and oddities, it works fast and reliable. And, above all, it provides the best import and export filters for Microsoft Office formats.
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