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My report on Quirky 6.0
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bobtron

Joined: 17 Oct 2011
Posts: 30
Location: Illinois-_land--USA--

PostPosted: Thu 23 Jan 2014, 18:25    Post subject: quirky 6.1.3
Subject description: "free space" shrinking?
 

Greets Quirky land!..I seem to have noticed a phenomenon first with Q6.1.2..sda6 6GB disk partition "free space" would start to gradually shrink and then went to free fall {started with 2.1GB free and dropped to 22MB !)
So I did clean full install of Q6.1.3 on Tuesday:
-sda6 partition 6GB
-added packages from package manager:
{VLC2.1.2..QT4.8.2..Conky1.6.1..Opera12.16
-After installing/reboot/running, "Partview" reported 6.0GB space/4.3GB free (cool)
-This morning was "3.9GB" free
-at home..reboot..."2.8GB" free?
Yes I use Opera and Seamonkey but have set to clear "history/cookies/cache" on exit..Have also tried manual delete that stuff.
Question is there are files growing when running {error and system or other logs}? Or am I missing something?
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broomdodger


Joined: 09 May 2008
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Location: Santa Cruz, CA

PostPosted: Thu 23 Jan 2014, 20:16    Post subject:  

BarryK wrote:
Ah, thanks for that feedback, I found the cause. It has nothing to do with Quirky.

The 'man-1.6f.tar.bz2' binary package created by T2 has everything in /usr/usr. So, it is a bug in T2.

I have put a check into 3builddistro to detect and fix it.

I edited configure because busybox less does not have -i or -s
Code:
DEFAULTLESSOPT="-IMN"


And to fix the broken prefix
Code:
if [ -z "${prefix}" ]; then prefix=""; fi

is better but one file is still moved to the wrong place.
Adding -prefix="" to configure does not work.

If you add the following, control chars are suppressed.
Code:
./configure -compatibility_mode_for_colored_groff


Now 'man' works... well enough.

Bill
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slavvo67

Joined: 12 Oct 2012
Posts: 442
Location: The other Mr. 305

PostPosted: Fri 24 Jan 2014, 20:32    Post subject:  

In Quirky 6.1.3, I have used the package manager using the option to "Download Only" X-Mag-1.0.5 and its dependencies in the t2-quirky6 pets. These files all downloaded in non-pet format as tar.bz2. Is this by design? I notice when I extract in root they end up in var/adm/packages. At first, I thought that I broke my package manager somehow but upon reinstalling 6.1.3 onto a USB, it happened again.

Kindly forgive the post if this is my error.

Regards,

Slavvo67
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James C


Joined: 26 Mar 2009
Posts: 5863
Location: Kentucky

PostPosted: Sat 25 Jan 2014, 11:25    Post subject: Quirky Linux Gets More Pep Out of Puppy  

Quote:
The Quirky Linux distro has a lightweight design with a powerful delivery system. That, plus a leading-edge test bed of new ideas, makes Quirky Linux an ideal OS for netbooks and older computers with limited storage and memory. Run Quirky on a hardware-enhanced modern machine and experience a new definition of fast and dependable. It's definitely worth a try
.

http://www.linuxinsider.com/story/Quirky-Linux-Gets-More-Pep-Out-of-Puppy-79841.html
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Bert


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PostPosted: Sat 25 Jan 2014, 15:22    Post subject:  

Nice review!

Thanks for the link.

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bobtron

Joined: 17 Oct 2011
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Location: Illinois-_land--USA--

PostPosted: Sun 26 Jan 2014, 15:26    Post subject: Quirky 6.1.3
Subject description: "Shutdown" manager?
 

Greetings again folks..Is there any way I can add to "Shutdown" Manager? or find an application for battery power management of Acer Aspire One laptop.
I would like to add either "Hibernate" or "Suspend" action when I close display / lid.
Q6.1.3 is working fine for my work colleague and myself. I would put to the top of my Grub Menu {default boot} if I could manage the power settings.I have about 15 versions of puppy {from Alpha to Wary} as well as Ubuntu 13.04 and Linux Mint 16 to boot from. But I find Quirky could do my every day chores {browser/you-tube/VLC/e-mail/fotowall} fun stuff or heavy lifting stuff.
Great review from previous link...Flowery words that I agree with..Good Job to all the crew!..TNX!

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bobtron

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PostPosted: Sun 26 Jan 2014, 16:25    Post subject: Q6.1.3
Subject description: suggestion
 

Puppy 4.3 linux got my feet wet so I am still a Noobie. But ever since Quirky 6.1.x, I am up to my ears with "Windows-wanna-be-Expatriots" work colleagues from every level {WIN3.1/95/98/ME/2000/NT/XP/VISTA/7 and 8} that want to jump ship.
These folks love the Quirky desktop environment..Menu items?..they are a little uncomfortable with some of "funny" names {linux world stuff}..most common complaint is "OMGosh! where did my "C" "D" "E" "F" or "G" GO!? followed by "You Wrecked My Computer!"..that turns into a discussion about hard drives partitions and USB stuff and how to "navigate" to their stuff {"Oh look! it is still here, they just got funny name / labels"}..they need to learn concepts like "Mount / Unmount"...that class lasts two minutes..after five minutes I might as well be talking to my shoe...I don't think they got it or most probably I did not explain it very well.
Can the Linux world {in general} come up with "Ex-Windows-User" to "Welcome-New-Linux User" hand holding tutorial/Wizard/Doc/Man page or mouse "hover over" and "tool tips" or "whats this?" to explain this stuff? {A built-in help guide/ wizard because older machines might not be connected to the Internet}
Any Ideas Lads or Lassies?
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bigpup


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Location: Charleston S.C. USA

PostPosted: Tue 28 Jan 2014, 03:28    Post subject:  

bobtron,

Windows is Windows.
Linux is Linux.
They are different because Microsoft thinks they own the look, operation, setup, and functions of Windows and no one else can use them.
Thus, Linux does the same stuff, but in a different way.

Quirky 6 is not the best for a new user. It is a test bed for new ideas and not a finished operating system.

For a new user of Puppy, I suggest Lucid Puppy 5.2.8.6
It has a very good help, with a Puppy help 101 that explains what programs do.
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=90461

Linux is different from Windows and learn you must Exclamation

The internet is full of info about Linux. Google search for specific questions.

For info about Puppy, look in the beginners section of this forum.

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drblock2

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PostPosted: Tue 28 Jan 2014, 10:40    Post subject: Skype works on Quirky 6.1.3  

Finally got Skype working on Quirky 6.1.3.

Following Barry's suggestion, I downloaded and installed the following to provide the missing libraries: https://archive.org/download/Puppy_Linux_Quirky6/zcombo_xorg_glsoft-20131207-1-i486-quirky6.pet

I then installed Skype-4.0.0.8, which you can find here: https://archive.org/download/Puppy_Linux_Slacko_5.4_on_pets_sfs/skype-4.0.0.8.sfs

I wanted to make the skype package uninstallable, just in case it didn't work, so I decided to convert it into a pet.

I used RHS's converter from here: http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=80909

The converter successfully unpacked the sfs file to a directory, but failed to repack it into a pet. This is essentially the same result as unpacking with the built in utility unsquashfs. In any case, you should carry out this operation on a linux partition.

Since the structure of the file system is very simple, I did not attempt to create a pet, but simply copied the files to the proper destination. For example, the subdirectory opt in the unpacked sfs directory, contains the subdirectory skype. I just copied this to /opt in Quirky 6.1.3. I suspect this is all that is necessary. Just drag the executable skype to the desktop with rox and provide it with the icon from the icons subdirectory.

And you are off and running.
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Billtoo


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PostPosted: Wed 29 Jan 2014, 14:35    Post subject: My report on Quirky 6.0  

Hey, look what I found Smile
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Bert


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PostPosted: Wed 29 Jan 2014, 19:04    Post subject:  

You're a great detective Billtoo Wink

Started downloading, as soon as I had seen your post. But...ibiblio froze at 11% download. As often, nluug came to the rescue, here .

Hey, I'm running Firefox 26.0 on Quirky Tahr. No problems!
I copied FF from my Precise 5.7.1 install, put it in /home, together with .mozilla, for which I put a link in /root. All my data, bookmarks, add-ons available...

I just started exploring. Keyboard be-latin1 working fine now.
MtPaint seems to have nothing between maximized and minimized window formats.
EDIT: Moderator: can we put a ban on all posts from Bert posted after midnight, when his reading glasses are downstairs as usual?!

Running from a usb 2.0 key, it is quite fast, but not really "puppy-snappy". Compared to Ubuntu, it is super-snappy Laughing

Thanks for your post Bill!

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PostPosted: Wed 29 Jan 2014, 20:12    Post subject: Re: My report on Quirky 6.0  

Billtoo wrote:
Hey, look what I found Smile
First try to install from the:
install-quirky-to-drive.sh
script complained that there was no:
quirky-6.0.usfs.xz
So... I renamed:
tahr-6.0.usfs.xz
And it installed from Quirky 613
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PostPosted: Wed 29 Jan 2014, 20:17    Post subject:  

Yes, Quirky Tahr 6.0 is out:

http://bkhome.org/news/?viewDetailed=00052

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PostPosted: Wed 29 Jan 2014, 20:24    Post subject: Re: My report on Quirky 6.0  

broomdodger wrote:
Billtoo wrote:
Hey, look what I found Smile
First try to install from the:
install-quirky-to-drive.sh
script complained that there was no:
quirky-6.0.usfs.xz
So... I renamed:
tahr-6.0.usfs.xz
And it installed from Quirky 613


Oops.
I will fix the script and upload it.

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PostPosted: Wed 29 Jan 2014, 20:59    Post subject: Re: My report on Quirky 6.0  

BarryK wrote:
broomdodger wrote:
Billtoo wrote:
Hey, look what I found Smile
First try to install from the:
install-quirky-to-drive.sh
script complained that there was no:
quirky-6.0.usfs.xz
So... I renamed:
tahr-6.0.usfs.xz
And it installed from Quirky 613


Oops.
I will fix the script and upload it.


The scripts were looking for a name "quirky*.usfs.xz".
I have fixed them, now accept anything "*.usfs.xz"

The scripts have been re-uploaded to ibiblio.org.

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