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Build scripts for small debian live images (similar to woof)
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saintless
 Joined: 11 Jun 2011 Posts: 3882 Location: Bulgaria |
Hi, Joe 
I think for now this puppy deb packages from Fred will work without problems on standard debian wheezy and squeeze for multiuser: http://www.smokey01.com/saintless/Fredx181/frisbee_wheezy.deb http://www.smokey01.com/saintless/Fredx181/gtkdialog-0.8.3.deb http://www.smokey01.com/saintless/Fredx181/obshutdown.deb http://www.smokey01.com/saintless/Fredx181/pfind.deb http://www.smokey01.com/saintless/Fredx181/pburn-4.3.3%285%29.tar.gz Sorry, the url tags make this post invisible 
Fixed. Toni Last edited by saintless on Mon 10 Feb 2014, 13:55; edited 5 times in total |
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emil
Joined: 10 Nov 2009 Posts: 631 Location: Austria |
Hey Joe, i think I didn't found it, I am still searching. Anyway it feels that a light system is possible and with the build scripts you have a blueprint to transform it easily, customize it and also build for different arches. Yes - doing it the light way is not so easy, and here one can learn a lot from puppy. Transforming apps will include - but is not limited to replace /root with /$HOME. I am still looking for the right policy - should one keep the pet format or should one convert it into deb and use apt-get to install? It seems logical that apt should be configured with reccommends=false, suggests=false, indices=false Concerning which packages to include in the base distro and how to combine apps and dependencies to keep it small and light one could learn also much from puppy... Currently the filesystem is purged from docs, manuals, locals etc.. header files are kept. Maybe a split inte dev / doc / nls packages like in puppy would make sense (when combining thos files to seperate to squashfs). For the puppy feeling it is possible to replace in /etc/default/nodm
(the nodm.hook could be modified to have this the default behaviour) Right here in the forum there are many people with more experience and skill than me, so I can not achieve much alone. cheers emil |
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RSH
 Joined: 05 Sep 2011 Posts: 2420 Location: Germany |
http://www.smokey01.com/saintless/Fredx181/frisbee_wheezy.deb http://www.smokey01.com/saintless/Fredx181/gtkdialog-0.8.3.deb http://www.smokey01.com/saintless/Fredx181/obshutdown.deb http://www.smokey01.com/saintless/Fredx181/pfind.deb It is the url http://www.smokey01.com/saintless/Fredx181/pburn-4.3.3(5).tar.gz that makes the post invisible because of its included (5). Just replace ( by %28 and ) by %29 and it works. http://www.smokey01.com/saintless/Fredx181/pburn-4.3.3%285%29.tar.gz _________________ LazY Puppy RSH's DNA SARA B. |
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saintless
Joined: 11 Jun 2011 Posts: 3882 Location: Bulgaria |
Thank you, RSH. I will keep this in mind while uploading files. |
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anikin
Joined: 10 May 2012 Posts: 1020 |
I downloaded nodm from Debian packages, undebbed it to have a look at the file structure, which looks as follows: /etc/pam.d/nodm /etc/insserv.conf.d/nodm /etc/init.d/nodm and replaced user with root. Works like a charm. Now, it would be great to get COW working ... if saintless is willing to help
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saintless
Joined: 11 Jun 2011 Posts: 3882 Location: Bulgaria |
Hi, Anikin.
Extract initrd1.img from Light-Wheezy2, use it with Cat-0.2 and it is done
http://www.smokey01.com/saintless/Light-Wheezy/Light-Wheezy-2.iso Toni _________________ Farewell, Nooby, you will be missed... |
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saintless
Joined: 11 Jun 2011 Posts: 3882 Location: Bulgaria |
Hi, Emil. About IceWM-Control-Center:
_________________ Farewell, Nooby, you will be missed... |
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anikin
Joined: 10 May 2012 Posts: 1020 |
Hi saintless, Does it look OK, nothing wrong in the picture?
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saintless
Joined: 11 Jun 2011 Posts: 3882 Location: Bulgaria |
The only unusual thing is this empty folder /live/cow/live It should not be there but this seems doesn't make problems. Maybe it is created because of something was left from the mounting /lib/live/mount/medium in /home but I'm not sure. In general do not touch (delete, rename, move) anything inside /live/cow You will end up with broken system. The wh. hidden files and folders are created for deleted items to be marked as deleted in the main module. They will appear in xfe as well if you mark show hidden files. Install squashfs-tools and use mksquashfs /live/cow to save changes or live-rw save file. From quick test all seems to work as it should with the downgraded initrd.img from Light-Wheezy2. _________________ Farewell, Nooby, you will be missed... |
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anikin
Joined: 10 May 2012 Posts: 1020 |
Hi saintless, Thank you, for all your help. All is going well so far, except, that I'm experinencing a little issue. This netbook has 2 SSD drives - sda1, sdb1 (both vfat) and an SD card - sdc1 (ext4). Out of those 3, only sda1 and sdc1 can be mounted - either via the provided script, or manually. sdb1 refuses to mount - with a message like, it's not found in fstab, or mtab. Any ideas? |
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saintless
Joined: 11 Jun 2011 Posts: 3882 Location: Bulgaria |
Hi, Anikin. I guess it is Cat-0.2 you are using? Emil wrote there was a problem with the mount script in the first version but he already removed this version from the site. The message for fstab and mtab missing is usual output if you try to mount/unmount drives from xfe or rox direct. They need fstab menu entry to do it. I would try this:
Find the exact name of the drive and if it is /dev/sdb1 try:
If this also does not work try the script /opt/bin/mnt-all from Light-Wheezy. Toni _________________ Farewell, Nooby, you will be missed... |
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konaexpress
Joined: 13 Oct 2011 Posts: 75 |
Hi, This looks like a cool project! Glad to see it and good luck with it. 1. Would love to see apt-get. 2. Might want to give new versions/ projects cat names to show a distinction between it and legacy Puppy projects. This will give way to all new names too.... Lot of good people here at the Puppy forums. Best regards, John |
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emil
Joined: 10 Nov 2009 Posts: 631 Location: Austria |
Hi thank you all, anikin
makes life easier on a private computer.
it is fine to modify everything with backported live-build, different initrd etc. For my personal builds with the CAT I try to stay close to official debian build, so I use original initrd
Toni, thank you for packagin Ice wm control center. I tested it, python would be no problem, python minimal is already here, but it needs qt3 libs, whereas qt4 is used in wheezy.
For my personal CAT builds I will use live-build 3.0 to stay with the current version (reason see above). So in my CAT builds there will be no folder /live/cow.
I only included my very old mount-all script. I hope one of Tonis solutions worked for you. I work on an extended CAT version with lots of filesystem drivers, maybe I can also include the drive icons, this will make mounting more puppy like.
Thanks! It is ultra-cool... 
1) apt-get is working 2) at the moment I will just use CAT with some version number, if anybody else uses the scripts name it as you like (maybe not pussy linux, that is something slightly different) cheers emil Last edited by emil on Fri 14 Feb 2014, 12:19; edited 1 time in total |
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saintless
Joined: 11 Jun 2011 Posts: 3882 Location: Bulgaria |
Hi, Emil
I know. I just answered Anikin's questions. He wants to use /live/cow with Cat. BTW I also keep the original initrd.img on the site. The downgraded initrd.img is build with downgraded live-boot but I also use it with squashfs with latest live-boot in Light-Wheezy. Toni Last edited by saintless on Fri 14 Feb 2014, 04:36; edited 2 times in total |
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konaexpress
Joined: 13 Oct 2011 Posts: 75 |
Icewm and Xfe? Wow that should be a fast little distro for sure. Ever think about flux box too? I will continue to watch this thread, have fun. John |
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