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Any HTML5 compatible web browsers available for Puppy?
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PostPosted: Mon 03 Mar 2014, 08:28    Post_subject:  

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If it makes you happy, I can certainly change the title.


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PostPosted: Mon 03 Mar 2014, 08:45    Post_subject:  

Hi...

In case it helps, my copy of Google Chrome, version 25 (on Ubuntu) performed pretty well on the HTML5 test, scoring 495, if I remember correctly. I'm using a newer version on Puppy, so perhaps I could test that version later. Smile

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PostPosted: Mon 03 Mar 2014, 10:05    Post_subject:  

ardvark wrote:
Hi...

In case it helps, my copy of Google Chrome, version 25 (on Ubuntu) performed pretty well on the HTML5 test, scoring 495, if I remember correctly. I'm using a newer version on Puppy, so perhaps I could test that version later. Smile

Regards...


Thank you ardvark, that will be great.
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PostPosted: Mon 03 Mar 2014, 11:51    Post_subject:  

Dont know how many are aware: HTML5 is the "language" of apps and games for both Apple and Android phones with Microsoft coming in starting late last year. The idea, that they all use, is that any developer can create an app/game on one of these, and have it also work and run on all the others OSes (including PCs with correct peripherals).

In a way, this also extends from Puppy to those smartDevices as well. So, the title may have been correct to bring awareness to the community that HTML5 can be extremely useful for desktop apps in Puppy Linux as we move into our future.

Puppy Linux could be a cornerstone/foundation for not only its own needs but also for being a useful platform for build/test/launch of cross-platform stuff in the home.

This community may be on the verge of a resurgence of Puppy Linux growth and extension, should choices be made to take advantage of the Puppy technology additions we are starting to see including those that have happened in Puppyland just this year: MTP being just one of those.

Hope this helps

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PostPosted: Mon 03 Mar 2014, 12:19    Post_subject:  

@gcmartin

Quite right, HTML 5 (plus javascript and WebGL) is gaining popularity as a cross platform frame work and will become ever more popular in the near future.

As an example, it's one of the "standards" (Qt being the other) for writing apps on the new Ubuntu phones.

http://www.ubuntu.com/phone
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PostPosted: Mon 03 Mar 2014, 12:52    Post_subject: Puppy & HTML5  

Yes, and @Flash, in his thread, has also begun to share insights into Puppy Linux community awareness of things useful in our views....especially since so many of us now have or are getting smartDevices.

There are other forum threads, as well, which bring some levels of Puppy-smartDevice knowledge into the community.

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PostPosted: Mon 03 Mar 2014, 18:43    Post_subject:  

@gcmartin

Thanks for the info, will certainly have a read.
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PostPosted: Thu 06 Mar 2014, 05:46    Post_subject:  

Burn_IT wrote:
The test is inconsistent.
My up to date Firefox under Win 7 scored 418.
Yes I turned off AV!


Maybe it is. I doubt it.

That test tests how well your browser on your pc with your drivers motherboard processor etc can handle it. The result will differ from machine to machine from os to os from setup to setup..even internet connection and other conditions can play a part.



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Puppy Linux could be a cornerstone/foundation for not only its own needs but also for being a useful platform for build/test/launch of cross-platform stuff in the home


Yes... And you would be amazed at the reaction I get from people when I tell them that this micro USB stick in my hand is my pc. I have 5.7.1 installed to usb with a save file, so what you say half the forum has? But this is windows people taking an intrest to most of them its "Magic" Or using ophcrack on a live puppy usb to get a windows log in, the Puppy community can build on this.

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PostPosted: Thu 06 Mar 2014, 05:58    Post_subject:  

THAT was the point I was trying to make.
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PostPosted: Thu 06 Mar 2014, 06:34    Post_subject:  

Sorry

I must have missunderstood.

to me inconsistent means I ran a that test on the same machine xxx number of times and got varied results. I have run the test 5 times and get the same result. Consistent.

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PostPosted: Thu 06 Mar 2014, 06:56    Post_subject:  

I have Firefox on my machine here under several different OSs and even two XP set-ups. The result vary wildly on all of them.
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PostPosted: Sat 08 Mar 2014, 07:45    Post_subject:  

Pete wrote:
Thank you ardvark, that will be great.


Hi Pete...

Sorry it's taken me a while but my version of Google Chrome on Puppy is 32.0.1700.107 and the score on the HTML5 test is 483, in case that helps. Smile

Also Midori 0.4 scored 346 and Opera 12.16 scored 392.

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PostPosted: Sat 08 Mar 2014, 09:03    Post_subject:  

gcmartin wrote:
Dont know how many are aware: HTML5 is the "language" of apps and games for both Apple and Android phones with Microsoft coming in starting late last year. The idea, that they all use, is that any developer can create an app/game on one of these, and have it also work and run on all the others OSes (including PCs with correct peripherals).


I'm in doubt: is html5 a programming language to build both webpages and apps or only apps? Is there the case that a html5-proof browser also needs html5 webpages?
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PostPosted: Sat 08 Mar 2014, 15:36    Post_subject:  

ardvark wrote:
Pete wrote:
Thank you ardvark, that will be great.


Hi Pete...

Sorry it's taken me a while but my version of Google Chrome on Puppy is 32.0.1700.107 and the score on the HTML5 test is 483, in case that helps. Smile

Also Midori 0.4 scored 346 and Opera 12.16 scored 392.

Regards...


Thank you ardvark that is helpful in seeing which browser scores the highest.
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PostPosted: Sat 08 Mar 2014, 15:43    Post_subject:  

watchdog wrote:

I'm in doubt: is html5 a programming language to build both webpages and apps or only apps? Is there the case that a html5-proof browser also needs html5 webpages?


Hi watchdog

It depends on the definition of "apps".
HTML 5 (like previous versions) is often used with Javascript so there are restrictions on what a web based "app" can do w.r.t. things like access to the file system, access to physical ports and so on.

When it comes to Android based smartphones and tablets, there are two types of apps that can be run, namely native apps (C based) or those written in HTML5 + js but then the app has to be run in a "webview" container.
Again it will have restrictions which may not apply to a native app.
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