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friendofjane


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PostPosted: Sat 22 Mar 2014, 16:26    Post subject:  Looking for shred
Subject description: Part of coreutils. Not in Puppy		  
Hello,

does somebody knows where I can find the shred utility, the command line program to wipe securily files ?

I find it strange because shred is a standard command line utility we can find on many distributions.

In my Package manager I tried all possible repositories but nowhere there is the shred utility to install.

Cheers
friendofjane
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Flash
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PostPosted: Sat 22 Mar 2014, 16:47    Post subject:  
I don't know. Seems like it ought to be around here somewhere. Will this do instead?
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Semme


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PostPosted: Sat 22 Mar 2014, 17:09    Post subject:  
It's part of the coreutils pkg. Wink
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amigo

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PostPosted: Sun 23 Mar 2014, 04:02    Post subject:  
Puppy uses busybox instead of coreutils, so it is not in puppy. I would not simply install coreutils, though, as it will break many puppy scripts which depend on the busybox versions of tools included in coreutils.
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sheldonisaac

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PostPosted: Sun 23 Mar 2014, 15:30    Post subject:  
amigo wrote:
Puppy uses busybox instead of coreutils, so it is not in puppy. I would not simply install coreutils, though, as it will break many puppy scripts which depend on the busybox versions of tools included in coreutils.

I have
Quote:
~> shred --version
shred (GNU coreutils) 7.4
Copyright (C) 2009 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
License GPLv3+: GNU GPL version 3 or later <http://gnu.org/licenses/gpl.html>

It came with the SuperLuPu I'm using just now on this computer.
amigo, any ideas on what should I look out for with regard to scripts breaking?
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Semme


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PostPosted: Sun 23 Mar 2014, 18:13    Post subject:  
FOJ, 4 Precise now and may need a lib.. Unpack'n stick it in /usr/bin.
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PostPosted: Sun 23 Mar 2014, 21:25    Post subject:  
I downloaded the shred.gz, unzipped it and put it in usr/bin. The first time I entered shred --help in a console, it told me I didn't have permission, so I right-clicked on shred in usr/bin, chose permissions and told it to make it executable. Then the help menu appeared.

I found a very interesting thing in shred's instructions:
Quote:
In the case of ext3 file systems, the above disclaimer applies
(and shred is thus of limited effectiveness) only in data=journal mode,
which journals file data in addition to just metadata. In both the
data=ordered (default) and data=writeback modes, shred works as usual.
Ext3 journaling modes can be changed by adding the data=something option
to the mount options for a particular file system in the /etc/fstab file,
as documented in the mount man page (man mount)

It would appear that ext3 can be a journaling file system!
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friendofjane


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PostPosted: Mon 24 Mar 2014, 01:50    Post subject:  
Thank you, I will try that shred and tell you.
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amigo

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PostPosted: Mon 24 Mar 2014, 01:50    Post subject:  
Of course ext3 is a journalling FS.
No problem using a 'loose' copy of shred - that won't break anything.
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Semme


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PostPosted: Mon 24 Mar 2014, 09:05    Post subject:  
Newer, from Slack 14.1 >> coreutils v8.21. This one unpacks to /bin. If the other works, that's fine, leave it.
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slavvo67

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PostPosted: Mon 07 Apr 2014, 18:58    Post subject:  
Can't something similar be done with a simple bash script? Just curious...
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Semme


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PostPosted: Mon 07 Apr 2014, 19:06    Post subject:  
Very Happy Slavvo.. this a tease? Cough it up!
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slavvo67

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PostPosted: Wed 21 May 2014, 01:29    Post subject:  
Hi Semme:

I just saw your response. Now I'm going crazy looking for the script that I tied to an Ubuntu "shred like" program but much faster. I'll get back to you on this. Of course there's the dd script but there's something better and quick....

So, while you salivate... take a look at this...

http://www.noah.org/wiki/Dd_-_Destroyer_of_Disks

This above is an amazing write-up about wiping disks. Wish I could take credit but not me.

Stay tuned. I'll find that script and program I'm talking about....

Best,

Slavvo67
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Semme


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PostPosted: Wed 21 May 2014, 05:28    Post subject:  
Let me guess >> srm? Don't worry, I'm far from Wink hell-bent.
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slavvo67

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PostPosted: Sun 25 May 2014, 23:12    Post subject:  
Actually, I believe it was HDParm. But I lost the script that I wrote as a front end. Embarassed I'm need to stop saving in Root when I'm running a live CD. LOL
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