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How to use Golan 3945ABG wireless in Puppy 5.7? - SOLVED
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scottsemel

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PostPosted: Fri 04 Apr 2014, 19:40    Post subject:  How to use Golan 3945ABG wireless in Puppy 5.7? - SOLVED  

I did a full install of Puppy 5.7 on an old Panasonic laptop. Looks like wiping out Windows wiped out the driver for the wireless card. How do I reinstall the driver?

In a terminal, I called
Code:
lspci
and one of the lines returned was:
03:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 3945ABG [Golan] Network Connection (rev 02)

Doing a search on updatesdriver.com shows that the driver that corresponds to 3945abg is an .exe file, executable on Windows. However, I no longer have a Windows partition as I intend this laptop to be a completely Puppy box.

Any ideas how to fix this problem? Thanks.

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PostPosted: Fri 04 Apr 2014, 20:17    Post subject:  

A windows driver is not normally needed. Puppy has a load of Linux drivers included. Hopefully one of those will work with your wireless card. The correct one should be detected and loaded automatically but you will need to use one of the wireless tools to set up the config. Try the connect icon on the desktop and choose wired or wireless LAN. Then try Simple Network Setup. With this it should just be a case of scanning for your wi-fi signal and entering your password.
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PostPosted: Fri 04 Apr 2014, 20:21    Post subject:  

Very Happy Hi, and welcome.

It doesn't care you have deleted Windows. Drivers (.exe) are not usable in Puppy.

I've searched for Wireless 3945ABG here:
http://wellminded.net63.net/

And found, for example, this:
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=25072&sid=9bb4c53a786f46e804440ef1ca8b2fa8

and other links that may guide you.

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PostPosted: Fri 04 Apr 2014, 20:33    Post subject:  

OscarTalks: my laptop doesn't seem to be searching for on-board linux drivers. When I've tried the Connect icon, the Wireless LAN option, and the various set-up options, I just get messages saying that it there is no wireless detected or that it is unable to connect to wireless. Clicking on the "WLAN" button in the connection wizard immediately results in the message that no wireless is detected. It doesn't seem to be searching for the signal or looking for its own drivers. It's as if it's immediately defaulting to that message.

Galbi: Thanks for pointing out that Puppy can't run .exe files. The instructions I saw elsewhere indicated that ubuntu could run them.

Also, my browser said it can't connect to wellminded.net63.net.

Regarding the article you linked for me, how do I run "ipw3945d in /sbin/"? And if that doesn't solve the problem, what alternatives would you suggest?

Thanks to both of you.
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PostPosted: Fri 04 Apr 2014, 20:48    Post subject:  

scottsemel wrote:
Also, my browser said it can't connect to wellminded.net63.net.


There is a misspell, perhaps that's why you can't go there.

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PostPosted: Fri 04 Apr 2014, 22:06    Post subject:  

The link before it's rather old so,

Just guessing, open a console and type:
Code:
modprobe ipw3945


and then try to configure with the connect icon.

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PostPosted: Fri 04 Apr 2014, 22:23    Post subject:  

Hi Scottsemel...

Welcome to the forums Smile

If modprobing it doesnt work, does the advice in this thread help? See Kimba's suggestion 4th from the bottom. Smile

Regards...

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PostPosted: Fri 04 Apr 2014, 22:37    Post subject:  

Hmm, looks like that card uses the iwlegacy driver. See this page:-
http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Drivers/iwlegacy

In console:-
Code:
modinfo iwlegacy

will tell you some information about the driver module.
Is this Slacko 5.7 by the way?
Hopefully all the firmware is included (if not it looks like you can download it) but it looks like it is rather an old bit of hardware. If you are using WPA it may be that you will need to use the bigger Network Wizard which is more sophisticated. I saw one post from someone who said that Frisbee worked for them with this card.

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PostPosted: Sat 05 Apr 2014, 01:14    Post subject:  

scottsemel wrote:
my laptop doesn't seem to be searching for on-board linux drivers
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Clicking on the "WLAN" button in the connection wizard immediately results in the message that no wireless is detected.

Actually, a native Linux native driver has automatically loaded, without you realising it. I know that because you are able to see a "WLAN" button - if a driver had not loaded, and loaded successfully, then that button would not even display.
It seems that your problem is wifi scanning.

I suggest you run the Internet Connection Wizard again, and select the "full" (Dougal's) network wizard. The Simple Network Wizard (SNS) is tragically unreliable for wifi connections.
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PostPosted: Sat 05 Apr 2014, 02:03    Post subject:  

Try following this guide.
Illustrated Guide to setting up a network connection in Lupu 520+
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=65346

If something does not work
Tell us at what step.
What you see.

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PostPosted: Sat 05 Apr 2014, 04:39    Post subject:  

just to confirm I recently installed to a lemovo with exactly the same wifi card... worked out of the box in 4.12 and lucid...driver and firmware present. I did use dougals wizard..it may be a little cryptic but for me it ALWAYS works if the driver is ok and autoconnects with no problem. I even took it and added it to Slax for that reason.

Only problem I have heard of is the firmware not extracting...supposed to come from /lib/modules/all-firmware and end up in /lib/firmware...a bit silly and unpacking the lot aint such a bad idea since it takes up no extra room that way.

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PostPosted: Sun 06 Apr 2014, 00:29    Post subject:  

mikeb wrote:
Only problem I have heard of is the firmware not extracting...supposed to come from /lib/modules/all-firmware and end up in /lib/firmware

Yes, that's a problem with Puppy which crops up occasionally - any firmware associated with a particular driver is supposed to relocate to the correct directory when that driver is first accessed and loaded ...
unfortunately Puppy sometimes fails to do this. Then the firmware is effectively missing, and the driver fails.

scottsemel, you should use ROX to see if the correct firmware file; iwlwifi-3945-2.ucode
exists in the directory; /lib/firmware

If not, go ahead and open a second ROX window, and locate the firmware file in /lib/modules/all-firmware/iwlwifi/lib/firmware
and copy it across to /lib/firmware

Reboot, and run the full Network Wizard.
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PostPosted: Sun 06 Apr 2014, 06:16    Post subject:  

Quote:
scottsemel, you should use ROX to see if the correct firmware file; iwlwifi-3945-2.ucode
exists in the directory; /lib/firmware

just to note mine (X60) needed the iwlwifi-3945-1.ucode so I suggest making sure both are there.

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PostPosted: Sun 06 Apr 2014, 21:15    Post subject:  

mikeb wrote:
mine (X60) needed the iwlwifi-3945-1.ucode so I suggest making sure both are there.

It doesn't work that way; the firmware version is not related to the hardware device.
The exact version of firmware depends on the version of (iwlwifi) driver, and thus relates to the kernel version.
The "-1" version of firmware was compatible only before Puppy (Lucid) version 5.0. The original poster is using Puppy (Slacko) 5.7.

In the meantime, where has our original poster gone?
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PostPosted: Sun 06 Apr 2014, 22:25    Post subject:  

tempestuous: thanks for your reply. I was away from my computer for the sabbath. (I'm on Los Angeles time, by the way.)

In using ROX to check my lib/firmware directory: I do have iwlwifi-3945-2.ucode in the folder, so I don't know where to go from here.

I ran the "full" (Dougal's) network wizard but received the same result as before: an immediate message that no wireless is detected.

OscarTalks: this is Slacko 5.7. And, yes, my laptop is probably about eight years old. modinfo legacy displayed several pieces of information, including:

Code:
description: iwl-legacy: common functions for 3945 and 4965


Are there other data from this call that would be useful in diagnosing this problem?

Galbi: modprobe ipw3945 resulted in nothing.
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