Blue Pup V6 Released 11th Oct 2014 32-bit

[gcmartin]

BLUE has been running for several days, now, continuous excepting for a reboot to check desktop views. I do understand that this is a very first roll-out as we work thru some of the issues.

The only other observation, I can share is that the laptop does NOT power down when the lid is closed overnight, OOTB.

Blue, is otherwise stable and seemingly works fine.

Thanks @ETP for what you're doing.
Edit: added OOTB

[ggg]

To be frank...

Some readers will believe anything.

Here to help.

[Ted Dog]

ggg ???

md5sum worked crazy internet..

[ETP]

@ gcmartin,

Your script is a good idea but as you acknowledge would need a bit more work. I realise that you are trying to assist.
I am however still struggling to understand exactly what you meant by a couple of things.

Message to restart X acknowledged, BUT desktop came back NOT as BLUE but instead Tahr.

I took that literally to mean the “Tahr desktop

[gcmartin]

... What exactly changed and precisely what behaviour had you not encountered in past distros?

This is easy to replicate. Just need to xz to pristine USB. Boot, Cancel browser. Menu>Setup>FirstRUN. Fill in new hostname, set locality, keyboard. OK to follow instructions. Restart X. That'll do it. Easy to observe. In fact, if I had not taken my FATDOG down, I could run this in the KVM client in short order versus the multiple machines needed to so this.

i'll get to it late tonight if someone else doesn't beat me to it.

Hope this and the post i presented was clear on the steps with the pictures enclosed in that post for review.

[ETP]

@ gcmartin,

I am still failing to comprehend your points here. You seem to be saying that you just followed the setup instructions in the first post of this thread which are as follows:

• If you first attempt to boot the stick on the same pc or laptop that you used to create it, make sure that before doing so, you shut down the device and remove all mains power from it for a couple of minutes.
  This will ensure that your BIOS refreshes its view of the stick and sees it as bootable.
  
  
  Setup Procedure:
  
  1. Boot from the stick to the Metro interface and then exit it by pressing Alt+F4.
  
  2. Access Setup/Quicksetup via the JWM menu and complete the first-run settings as usual.
  
  3. If Xorg wizard kicks in at any point complete it.
  
  4. If you are using an LCD display, launch Fontwizard from the JWM/desktop menu, tick all boxes & then click on apply. Restart X.
  
  5. If the network icon in the tray has a red X through it, right click it to setup your network settings. Delete any existing profile then at the bottom select Ethernet or wireless as appropriate.
  
  6. Adjust your sound volume by clicking on that tray icon.
  
  N/B By default the Cups service is disabled. Enable it if and when you wish to print.

I remain foxed by the two items I quoted. Perhaps I need stronger medication!

[gcmartin]

Thanks @ETP. That's exactly what was done on the laptop as that post shows.

The desktop needed to restart because the hostname change needed to take place after FirstRUN. The environment variable had not reflected the change until after the desktop restart.

Are you suggesting that you are NOT getting the same results I shared by following those steps outlined in the post?

Seems there is another member named @GGG who either has the problem or is derailing.

Will followup soon as I can. I will need to recreate a pristine stick and capture results as I did for you and presented in that post.

Before I destroy the stick, below is picture of the desktop that was changed from its former.

Hope this helps ( at least until I get some time to retrace the steps)

[Billtoo]

I did a new install of V2 and added radky's FbBox-1.0_32Bit.pet +
Quirky-libpangoxft-1.0.so.0.pet, I also installed icewm + icewm themes
from QPM.
I edited the keys and preferences files for icewm and put them in the
hidden .icewm directory in /root

The new key assignments are:
key "Alt+e" thunderbird
key "Alt+s" skype
key "Alt+p" vlc
key "Alt+t" tickr
key "Alt+n" chromium-browser
key "Alt+o" PupSnap

The left windows key brings up the puppy menu.

Alt+left arrow and Alt+right arrow to move back and forth within a tab.
Ctrl+1 +2 to move back and forth between open tabs.

I can't add,edit or remove tiles, clicking or right clicking in the
upper right portion of the sceen on or near the Blue Pup logg doesn't bring up
the proper screen (in jwm either) but I have been able to add,edit or
remove tiles in an earlier install of Blue Pup on a different pc.
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I moved the flashdrive to a pc with ati graphics and just locating
the mouse pointer over the Puppy logo in the upper right brought up
the menu to add tiles,I added the Distrowatch tile, it doesn't work on this pc
with intel graphics.
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I haven't figured out how to change the key assignments in openbox yet.
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The flashdrive is 16gb so in gparted I formatted the sdb3 partition to
f2fs, took a snapshot and copied my audit folder to sdb3 and the main hard drive too.

Anyhow, having fun

[ETP]

@ gcmartin,

Thanks for posting that image. A picture is always worth a thousand words and I now understand what you meant by “Tahr

[step]

Hi step,

90 seconds is way too quick for your card to have imaged correctly and I am not clear why you targeted the device node rather than the device letter?
EDIT:

Actually I didn't. My SDC card device letter is mmc0p, the device nodes are mmc0p1 and mmc0p2. I got a cheap USB card reader and re-imaged my SD card from the reader. This time it took about 16 minutes. Unplugged all devices but the reader, rebooted, ... here I am writing this post from blue pup V3!

Great job, thank you so much. I really like your choices. And QT was already my primary OS, so I feel that blue pup is a real advancement of the state of the art.

Note on first time experience: after running Xorg wizard blue pup booted into the tile screen. network wasn't connected. I immediately ran the first boot wizard and restarted X. Again it went straight into the tile screen. Network disconnected. Network wizard. Connected.

A number of members have queried BK’s use of f2fs in QT and Blue Pup although in all fairness his scripts do offer a choice between ext4 & f2fs. Posted below are my stats from the last few years which may be of interest. These are only “read

[step]

Your second screen shot tells me that the Metro extension has updated to 1.02 which has some improvements. You can induce an update by entering developer mode if it fails to do so.

Can you elaborate on that? What are the steps to update the Metro extension? I'm new to Chromium.
EDIT: never mind, found it under Settings/Extensions (left side).

[ETP]

Hi step,

It is good to hear that you are now up and running.

I wonder if I could boot blue pup from a USB2 key targeting the f2fs partition on a USB3 key plugged into the express port card... Time to experiment.
Anyway, thank you again for blue pup!

Yes, but you may as well put it on the SSD. That is one way that I run it on both my XP box and a recent 8.1 box with an 840.

It is very easy to do and is described here:

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 231#763231

Have fun.

[gcmartin]

High Step!

... I recently got a Samsung 840 evo 128GB SSD and I'm trying to decide which OS/fs combo is best for it. ... USB3 is available as an add-in express port card, but the BIOS can't boot from it. I wonder if I could boot blue pup from a USB2 key targeting the f2fs partition on a USB3 key plugged into the express port card... Time to experiment. ...

Over last weekend, I did just that...experiment. This is what I found out.
Modifying the config found in the /boot folder of USB partition1 you'll need to point to the correct partitions where the full-install partition is. Standard is "sdb2". In my case, I duplicated sdb2 to a logical partition "sdb6". And, it booted. Be sure that rootwait and rw remain as they are REQUIRED. One example allow system to boot sdb6 is as follows:

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# Boot Blue Pup ETP 25th March 2014
default /vmlinuz root=/dev/sdb6 rootwait rw
# Original systemboot instruction follows
# default /vmlinuz root=/dev/sdb2 rootwait rw 

I see no reason you could not replicate sdb2 to any other partition your system could see at boot time and have your system boot by modifying the bootmanager config appropriately.

Here to help

[charlie6]

Hi ETP,
thanks for these Blue Tahr derivatives !
i got Blue v.2 running nice (installed on an 8GB USB stick from the image as described on page 1 this thread; the whole 8GB stick has been f2fs formated before install);
- booted nice on a COMPAQ desktop, and now does not boot anymore on the very same desktop ...just a flashing dash prompt without any message;
- now it continues booting on a Dell620 laptop;
- it does not boot on other PC's where another USB stick with syslinux 3.73 boots nice;

Now i'm a bit puzzled as it has booted on the COMPAQ PC, and now it does'nt anymore ...

Thnsk for ant advice,
Charlie

last edited:
reading the above post (thanks gcmartin !!)

editing the syslinux.cfg file in sdb1 like this:
syslinux.cfg was

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# Boot Blue Pup ETP March 2014
default /vmlinuz root=PARTUUID=123456-78 rootwait rw 

edited syslinux.cfg:

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# Boot Blue Pup ETP March 2014
#default /vmlinuz root=PARTUUID=123456-78 rootwait rw
default /vmlinuz root=/dev/sdb2 rootwait rw 

does not solve that question ...see next post

[charlie6]

Hi again,
(continuing my above post)
the new syslinux.cfg allowed to boot only once on the COMPAQ PC;

i afterwards plugged the USB stick on another desktop (also booting on anther stick having syslinux3.73 in /sdb1), and got nothing but tre fashing dash prompt;

back again on the COMPAQ desktop ...and does not boot (only got the flashing dash prompt)

...??
thanks for any advice
charlie

[ETP]

Hi Charlie,

Gcmartin’s post does not apply to your problem which is BIOS related rather than a failure to find the second partition. PARTUUID ensures (in V1 & V2) that it does regardless of the drive letter. You should return syslinux.cfg to its original state then proceed as follows:

The flashing prompt indicates that the BIOS is no longer seeing the stick as a bootable device. Try removing all mains power to the COMPAQ desktop for a couple of minutes then try again. As it boots enter the BIOS to see how it perceives the stick.
On the other PCs try the same thing.

If no joy, try V3 which is intended to boot on awkward BIOSs. Edit: Return your stick to its virgin state before targeting it with V3.

General Comment:
Step’s last post has reminded me to cover how to upgrade Thunderbird.
I have therefore added to the FAQ which can be found here:

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 234#762234

[step]

Yes, but you may as well put it on the SSD. That is one way that I run it on both my XP box and a recent 8.1 box with an 840.
It is very easy to do and is described here:
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 231#763231

Bookmarked and I will definitely experiment it. Are you actually dual booting Win and blue pup from your SSD, or is your SSD reserved for blue pup? If dual booting, are you doing that with syslinux and how?

One of the reasons I really like this thread is because you and other members are enriching it with wonderful and clear how-to's related to booting and QT in general.

One more question. Would you please share the performance testing scripts that you used to make the list in your post here http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/posting.php?p=768942?

[step]

High Step!
Modifying the config found in the /boot folder of USB partition1 you'll need to point to the correct partitions where the full-install partition is. Standard is "sdb2". In my case, I duplicated sdb2 to a logical partition "sdb6". And, it booted. Be sure that rootwait and rw remain as they are REQUIRED.

Hi gcmartin! Thank you for your advice. I'm not clear what rootwait is for. For HDD/SSD install ETP wrote elsewhere that it isn't needed anymore. So I'm guessing that rootwait is required to boot any kind of USB/SD portable media. Am I on the right track?

[Billtoo]

I added the devx for Quirky Tahr 6.0.5 and then compiled wine 1.7.16,
it's working well.
Blue Pup is working well too.

[ETP]

Hi step,

To take your last query first. You do not need “rootwait