Seems PL and DSL are the only distros left for older boxes

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Seems PL and DSL are the only distros left for older boxes

#1 Post by jacatone »

Been trying to install the latest versions of Linux Mint, Ubuntu and Linux Lite on older P4 machines and they won't install. I guess PL, DSL and maybe Lubuntu are your only options left for older hardware. You can't use dialup with Lubuntu, just broadband.

gcmartin

#2 Post by gcmartin »

This might help.

There are still lots of old distros still floating around on different distro sites which still work perfectly well on old (and new) hardware.

The same is true in Puppyland.

Those old distros rock, as they still work and maybe more importantly, they are still stable on old h/w.

Hope this helps

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#3 Post by jacatone »

Yeah, except older discontinued distros can't update or even access repositories.

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#4 Post by rokytnji »

jacatone wrote:Yeah, except older discontinued distros can't update or even access repositories.
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harry@biker:~
$ inxi -Fxz
System:    Host: biker Kernel: 3.7.10-antix.7-486-smp i686 (32 bit gcc: 4.7.2) 
           Desktop: Fluxbox 1.3.2 
           Distro: antiX-13_386-full Luddite 01 June 2013 
Machine:   Mobo: IBM model: 2628TWU
           Bios: IBM v: KXET33WW (1.06 ) date: 09/05/2001
CPU:       Single core Pentium III (Coppermine) (-UP-) cache: 256 KB clocked at 1000 MHz
           flags: (pae sse) bmips: 1992 
Graphics:  Card: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] ATI Rage Mobility P/M AGP 2x
           bus-ID: 01:00.0
           Display Server: X.Org 1.12.4 drivers: ati (unloaded: fbdev,vesa) FAILED: mach64
           Resolution: 1024x768@87.0hz
           GLX Renderer: Gallium 0.4 on softpipe
           GLX Version: 2.1 Mesa 8.0.5 Direct Rendering: Yes
Audio:     Card Cirrus Logic CS 4614/22/24/30 [CrystalClear SoundFusion Audio Accelerator] 
           driver: snd_cs46xx bus-ID: 00:05.0 
           Sound: ALSA v: k3.7.10-antix.7-486-smp
Network:   Card-1: 3Com 3c556B CardBus [Tornado]
           driver: 3c59x port: 1800 bus-ID: 00:03.0
           IF: eth0 state: down mac: <filter>
           Card-2: Ralink RT2561/RT61 802.11g PCI
           driver: rt61pci v: 2.3.0 bus-ID: 06:00.0
           IF: wlan0 state: up mac: <filter>
Drives:    HDD Total Size: 20.0GB (-)
           ID-1: /dev/sda model: IC25N020ATCS04 size: 20.0GB
Partition: ID-1: / size: 18G used: 15G (87%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda1 
           ID-2: swap-1 size: 1.12GB used: 0.02GB (2%) fs: swap dev: /dev/sda2 
Sensors:   System Temperatures: cpu: 57.0C mobo: 44.0C 
           Fan Speeds (in rpm): cpu: 0 
Info:      Processes: 90 Uptime: 2:36 Memory: 280.0/500.7MB 
           Init: SysVinit runlevel: 5 Gcc sys: 4.7.2 
           Client: Shell (bash 4.2.371) inxi: 2.1.18 
harry@biker:~
$ inxi -r
Repos:     Active apt sources in file: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/antix.list
           deb http://antix.daveserver.info/stable stable main
           Active apt sources in file: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.list
           deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ wheezy main contrib non-free
           deb http://security.debian.org/ wheezy/updates main contrib non-free
harry@biker:~
$ 
For Ubuntu try

https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Insta ... /MinimalCD
Posted from a Pentium 3 , 512MB ram , used to run Puppy Dingo 4
2001 laptop.

Slackware and a Debian Net install will run just fine also.
Gentoo too, Including dialup.

As one linux user I know online says.

"The magic is in the magicians hands! Not the Wand!"
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#5 Post by jacatone »

Yeah, I hate Fluxbox. Been looking for a Linux replacement for my old WinXP P4 desktop and laptop, but XP still seems to be working just fine. I've never actually found a Linux distro that was any better than XP.

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#6 Post by rokytnji »

jacatone wrote:Yeah, I hate Fluxbox. Been looking for a Linux replacement for my old WinXP P4 desktop and laptop, but XP still seems to be working just fine. I've never actually found a Linux distro that was any better than XP.
I am not limited to only Fluxbox.
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Re: Seems PL and DSL are the only distros left for older boxes

#7 Post by Moat »

jacatone wrote: You can't use dialup with Lubuntu, just broadband.
Dialup on Lubuntu (with an outboard modem) works just fine - install wvdial (and gnomePPP if you want a GUI). In recently playing around on the excellent Lubuntu-based distro LXLE, it appeared wvdial comes pre-installed - so it should dial out OOTB via terminal.

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#8 Post by Fossil »

Eight plus eight years ago, there were a lot more small Linux distros, some of which were very good indeed. Gradually, the forces of change have eroded these systems away. Even Austrumi, which was based on Slackware, appears not to have been updated for several years. http://cyti.latgola.lv/ruuni/#

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#9 Post by Colonel Panic »

AntiX is good for old computers as well. I can run it just fine on my thirteen year old Compaq.

Vector Light is also designed for old computers, but hasn't been updated in a while; the same is true of CrunchBang.

There are a couple of the old Deli derivatives which are still being updated; I might post a link when I'm in Opera again.
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#10 Post by Colonel Panic »

It looks like Delicate is the only Deli variant still being developed, and I've not been able to get it to boot in the past so I can't recommend it with any confidence.

Nevertheless, it's up to 0.1 alpha 4 now if anyone wants to try it;

http://deli.tavvva.net/
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#11 Post by mikeb »

I use a slax 6 derivative with XFCE4 daily on circa 2000 machines....
Still a bundle of modules around and its easy to build them sourcing from debian or ...erm...puppy.
Good all round kernels.

mike

darry1966

#12 Post by darry1966 »

Fossil wrote:Eight plus eight years ago, there were a lot more small Linux distros, some of which were very good indeed. Gradually, the forces of change have eroded these systems away. Even Austrumi, which was based on Slackware, appears not to have been updated for several years. http://cyti.latgola.lv/ruuni/#

Austrumi is still being maintained here
ftp://austrumi.ru.lv/

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Galpon Minino

#13 Post by darry1966 »

Here is another I have tried which is Debian based.

http://minino.galpon.org/en

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#14 Post by puppyluvr »

:D Hello,
Austrumi is nice. Luitlinux too.
Tinycore is good too.
But if you want fast, super small, and super light,
try KolobriOS. Its not Linux, its straight machine code!!
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Re: Galpon Minino

#15 Post by Colonel Panic »

darry1966 wrote:Here is another I have tried which is Debian based.

http://minino.galpon.org/en
Thanks, I'm downloading it now.

UPDATE: I could only get it to boot to the console (i.e. it wouldn't load X Windows).
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#16 Post by Fossil »

Just tried KolibriOS - Amazing for it's size!

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#17 Post by Colonel Panic »

I've just come across this page, which has an extensive listing of the options for someone who needs to have something to run on an old machine. It's well worth a look if you don't mind older distros;

http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=575456
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#18 Post by jacatone »

Wanted to try this LXLE, but it can only be downloaded through bittorent. I use my local library for their free broadband and they don't allow bittorent. Anyone know of a standalone iso download somewhere?

darry1966

#19 Post by darry1966 »

How about Wattos - has anyone tried it?
http://www.planetwatt.com/

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#20 Post by Colonel Panic »

darry1966 wrote:How about Wattos - has anyone tried it?
http://www.planetwatt.com/
I haven't tried the latest one, but I did try the last release (7.0) and it was OK except that I had trouble downloading additional software.

It's a good choice for a lightweight Ubuntu based distro, and quite nice-looking, but if you want to extend it I think you need to know how mirrors work (which I don't).
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