Seems PL and DSL are the only distros left for older boxes

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#21 Post by darry1966 »

You can edit apt sources list using an apt sources list generator site there is one for Debian and one for Ubuntu from which Wattos is based - example below, I would imagine it works with Wattos

http://repogen.simplylinux.ch/

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#22 Post by darry1966 »

By the way I forgot to mention slackware based Absolute Linux which is pretty solid, I have used it along with Vector Linux.

http://www.absolutelinux.org/

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#23 Post by Colonel Panic »

darry1966 wrote:You can edit apt sources list using an apt sources list generator site there is one for Debian and one for Ubuntu from which Wattos is based - example below, I would imagine it works with Wattos

http://repogen.simplylinux.ch/
Thanks, I'll make a note of that one.

Cheers,

CP .
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#24 Post by darry1966 »

By the way Colonel Panic WattOS has changed bases to debian
according to distrowatch:
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"Ron Ropp has announced the release of wattOS R8, a set of minimalist Debian-based distributions with a choice of LXDE, MATE or Openbox desktop user interfaces: "The wattOS team is pleased to announce the release of the new version of wattOS - release 8 - (also known as R8). After 5 years of being an Ubuntu-based distro, we have made the change to Debian. Specifically Debian 'Wheezy' as the base, with some backports thrown in (for example a newer kernel), and in a couple of small places a little 'Jessie' where warranted. But for the most part, its Debian 'Wheezy' as a base to build from. The additional tweaks include the addition of the expected things to make it easy to use as a live CD or install CD. So a reasonably complete desktop for all editions that includes things like support for multiple wireless chipsets, Flash inclusion, printing support...."

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#25 Post by Colonel Panic »

darry1966 wrote:By the way Colonel Panic WattOS has changed bases to debian
according to distrowatch:
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"Ron Ropp has announced the release of wattOS R8, a set of minimalist Debian-based distributions with a choice of LXDE, MATE or Openbox desktop user interfaces: "The wattOS team is pleased to announce the release of the new version of wattOS - release 8 - (also known as R8). After 5 years of being an Ubuntu-based distro, we have made the change to Debian. Specifically Debian 'Wheezy' as the base, with some backports thrown in (for example a newer kernel), and in a couple of small places a little 'Jessie' where warranted. But for the most part, its Debian 'Wheezy' as a base to build from. The additional tweaks include the addition of the expected things to make it easy to use as a live CD or install CD. So a reasonably complete desktop for all editions that includes things like support for multiple wireless chipsets, Flash inclusion, printing support...."
Thanks for the info Darry. It makes sense for the Watt devs to do this because Debian runs on older machines than Ubuntu, but it puts the distro in direct competition with AntiX.
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#26 Post by rokytnji »

Shoot. If I was a better gnu/linux computer user

http://s13.postimg.org/5llpbnix3/slitaz1.jpg

http://antix.freeforums.org/well-i-trie ... t5236.html

While I ran it. It ran good. I just needed to give it a chance. Which I did not.

http://www.slitaz.org/en/

Their wireless support has gotten much better I must say.

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Seems PL and DSL are the only distros left for older boxes

#27 Post by Billtoo »

Here's PCLinuxOS lxde 32 bit running on a nearly 11 year old compaq
Presario S6700NX desktop.

Computer
Processor 2x Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.80GHz
Memory 1552MB (260MB used)
Operating System PCLinuxOS
User Name bill (Bill)
Date/Time Thu 05 Feb 2015 02:16:14 AM EST
Display
Resolution 1920x1080 pixels
OpenGL Renderer Mesa DRI R200 (RV280 5960) x86/MMX/SSE2 DRI2
X11 Vendor The X.Org Foundation
Multimedia
Audio Adapter CMI8738-MC6 - C-Media CMI8738

Operating System
Version
Kernel Linux 3.15.9-pclos1 (i686)
Compiled #1 SMP PREEMPT Mon Aug 11 00:53:16 CDT 2014
C Library GNU C Library version 2.20 (stable)
Default C Compiler GNU C Compiler version 4.9.2 (GCC)
Distribution PCLinuxOS


OpenGL
Vendor Mesa Project
Renderer Mesa DRI R200 (RV280 5960) x86/MMX/SSE2 DRI2
Version 1.3 Mesa 10.4.3
Direct Rendering Yes

It's a rolling release so you are prompted when security or software
updates are available.

It's working pretty well on this older pc.

EDIT:
I put a better graphics card in the computer, also removed the old
sound card and installed a Sound Blaster.
Added a second smaller monitor,using arandr to setup the monitors.

Did a fresh install of pclinuxos-mate-12.14 32 bit.

Computer
Processor 2x Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.80GHz
Memory 1552MB (241MB used)
Operating System PCLinuxOS
User Name bill (Bill)
Date/Time Thu 05 Feb 2015 08:47:55 PM EST
Display
Resolution 3360x1080 pixels
OpenGL Renderer Gallium 0.4 on ATI RV530
X11 Vendor The X.Org Foundation
Multimedia
Audio Adapter CA0106 - CA0106

Monitors
Monitor 0 1440x900 pixels
Monitor 1 1920x1080 pixels

Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] RV530 [Radeon X1600 PRO] AGP
Creative Labs CA0106 Soundblaster

Kodi Media Center works now, it didn't work with the old ati 9600
graphics card, the new card has 512mb ram.
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#28 Post by 8Geee »

Does PCLinuxOS have a browser option... I'd rather use FF than GC.
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#29 Post by Billtoo »

8Geee wrote:Does PCLinuxOS have a browser option... I'd rather use FF than GC.

Yes, the latest version of Firefox,Palemoon,QupZilla,Dillo,etc. are
available in the repository.
I like QupZilla-1.8.6 on this p4.

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#30 Post by torios »

Hi everyone, I just came across this post.

There is an upcoming distro:
torios.net

That is dedicated to this very issue.
It uses JWM as the desktop, and comes very slim.
The installer it uses is OBI (one button installer).
This works well on very low memory (The smallest I have tested is 128MB).
I have the Alpha version running on 3 machines. It is Ubuntu 12.04 based, so there is a very wide selection of software... however it uses a more recent JWM.

I have been working on the ToriOS project so, I am definitely trying to promote this to people who are interested in this. We could always use more testers, and developers. So simply using it and reporting bugs would be very helpful.

There will be a Beta version ISO coming out soon, so feel free to contact us.

I have always liked Puppy, and wanted a similar experience with an Ubuntu base for full installs (multi-user, fully compatible with Debian packages).
You can even e-mail us @
torios AT lists DOT launchpad DOT net

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#31 Post by darry1966 »

The Distro Linux BBQ is putting out distros especially for old machines:
http://linuxbbq.org/

Downloads:
http://sourceforge.net/projects/linuxbbq/

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#32 Post by mikeb »

I haven't got to debian sid yet and I have stuff from 2000 to 2008.... :D
By the way Sid ~= Lucid for reference.

mike

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#33 Post by darry1966 »

Hi Mike.

What I like about these releases is they are very barebones and the fact they try to avoid gtk3 and other heavy cruft and put in some good commandline stuff. The Bork release is very crunchbang like which is sort of where I am at the moment, and of course runs really well on pentiums apparently and there are plenty of cho ices release wise to suit different machines.

Some of the release names are interesting to say the least so if you are bit offended by names like chlamydia or pony muncher then perhaps these aren't your bag.

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#34 Post by mikeb »

sticks and stones... it seems to lead to one iso...so do you use that to build a bear distro or am I on the wrong track.

mike

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#35 Post by James C »

Try this link....
http://sourceforge.net/projects/linuxbb ... rce=navbar

Been roasting my own for a while now.....

Short list of releases...

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2014:
- Spring: base system for own distribution, extra lite, with Xsession (wmii)

Community:
- Old School: 9wm, w9wm, twm, i686 minimal
- Psychedelic Shitstorm: WindowLab, random theme changer, i686 minimal
- Malgus: sithwm, st terminal, bsdgames, i686 minimal
- Gruffalo: monsterwm, cmus, roaster, bsdgames, 686pae, some comforts added
- Dinuguan: matwm2, lwm, i686 minimal
- Esculentus: echinus, pypanel, i686 minimal

Openbox Base:
- Sidbang: Crunchbang Waldorf in Sid, no GTK3
- SidbangRYO: "Roast Your Own" Lite version of Crunchbang Waldorf in Sid, no GTK3 
- n00b ki11ah: extra-lite hacker box, no GTK
- Pony Muncher: full Openbox desktop, no GTK3
- Cookies: i686, no DM, no GTK3, minimal
- Bakewell: amd64, no DM, no GTK3, minimal
- Penbang: i686, Lightside with penetration testing tools (developed by mad_dev)
- Darkside: port of Crunchbang Waldorf to Sid (outdated)
- Lightside: Darkside minus GIMP and GNU Office (outdated)

LXDE Base
- Coal: no Display Manager, no GTK3, minimal 
- Trollinger: LightDM, GTK3, minimal (outdated)
- Elitist: developers edition, based on Trollinger
- Enough: amd64, full multimedia edition, based on Trollinger
- Doctor: i686, data recovery and rescue kit
- Enewetak: i686, emulator edition, WINE

XFCE4 Base:
- Rimjobbing Rhino: Roast Your Own, lite
- Horny Horse: base desktop
- xIDE: Eclipse full desktop
- Absinth: lite XFCE, no GTK3, minimal
- Proof: i686, extra-lite XFCE, no GTK3, minimal (outdated)
- Count: i686, small-business edition for accounting
- Studex: amd64, student edition with LaTex, Mendeley Desktop
- 520: amd64, Chinese edition, localized
- Quacksalver: i686, special edition for GPs
- XFCE64: amd64 base, minimal
- Rocks!: amd64-rt, special edition for music production
- Wifey64: amd64, few productivity apps, no GTK3/DM
- Hubby: i686, few productivity apps, no GTK3/DM
- Pompous64: amd64, everything and the Out house sink, no DM
- Arrogance: i686, everything and the Out house sink, no DM

amiWM:
- Amigo: Commodore Amiga look & feel, emulator, no GTK, lite

bspwm:
- Oink Oink: lite, no GTK

oroborus:
- Kinky Koala: oroborus desktop, lite, no GTK3

IceWM:
- Wuxbuntu: Ubuntu-themed, no GTK3, lite

CatWM:
- Puszi: lite, no GTK

CWM:
- Shark Fin: lite, no GTK, sysvinit
- Smoker: lite, no GTK, systemd

euclidwm:
- Stack: extra-lite, no GTK

WM2:
- Sideways: extra-lite, no GTK, also includes FLWM and FLTK tools

EvilWM:
- Sushi: extra-lite, no GTK

goomwwm:
- Pringles: extr-lite, no GTK, build tools added

xoat:
- Pringles: extr-lite, no GTK, build tools added

SpectrWM:
- Cobham: note-taking desktop, no GTK, lite

TinyWM:
- Author: note-taking desktop, no GTK, lite

DragonflyWM:
- Unia: extra-lite Chromium kiosk, live session
- Nymph: light base, no GUI apps, minimal, installable

i3:
- Elixir: extra-lite, no GUI, minimal
- Honey: light base, no GUI apps, minimal

Various:
- Gangbang: over 50WMs in a live session, minimal
- Colin: 13WMs, installable, no GTK3, minimal
- Pidsley: 10WMs, installable, no GTK, minimal
- Slime: 13WMs, Emacs session, no GTK, minimal

Karmen:
- Elektra: i686, Karmen WM, no DM, no GTK3, minimal

Ratpoison:
- Neckbeard: i686, Emacs session, no GTK, minimal

Blackbox:
- Yuebing: i686, no DM, no GTK3, minimal 

Sauce:
- Sauce64: amd64, TWM + Emacs, no DM, no GTK3, minimal

noX:
- IDE: amd64, Emacs IDE
- Burn: i686, Fedora base, Emacs session
- RMS: i486, pure Emacs session, minimal
- Rice64: amd64, pure Emacs session, minimal
- Beer: i686, pure Emacs session, minimal
- RSI: i686, pure Emacs session, live system, for experts

SnapWM:
- Vegeta: i686, no GTK, minimal

Roast Your Own:
- Bloat: base install plus X, roastyourown system (outdated)
- Virgin32: i686, no X - superceded by Tiny (outdated)
- Boner64: amd64, no X - superceded by Bass64 (outdated)

JWM:
- Chicken Wings: extra-lite JWM, no GTK3, minimal
- Cameltoe: extra-lite JWM, no GTK3, minimal (outdated)

XMonad:
- Dominator: i686, no DM, no GTK3, Xmonad plus libraries, developers edition, minimal

DWM Base:
- Chili: amd64, extra-lite DWM plus libraries, minimal

Threesome:
- Threeswm: amd64, Awesome, i3, Spectrwm
- Threesum: i686, Awesome, i3, Spectrwm

CLIt:
- CLIt: no-X rescue system, tmux session, minimal  (outdated)

Cinnamon Base:
- Cinnamon: i686

KDE Base:
- KDE64: amd64, stripped KDE desktop, minimal

TDE Base:
- Hackbraten: i686, Trinity Desktop, minimal - proceed with care!

GNUstep:
- Golden Shower: i686, GNU Step plus Window Maker, minimal

MATE Base:
- Solyanka: MATE, no GTK3
- MATE: amd64, MATE 1.4.2 desktop, minimal (outdated)

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#36 Post by darry1966 »

mikeb wrote:sticks and stones... it seems to lead to one iso...so do you use that to build a bear distro or am I on the wrong track.

mike
Hi Mike and James,

Sorry to clarify the link James has given is their sourceforge site and the download site. You are right most of the isos are very bare mine for example Bork had Dillo Browser, Ceni for network/wireless, Word Grinder, Simpleburn, Tiny Radio, a few other commandline apps. They use apt for package management as Synaptic brings a whole load of crud and you build up what you want using apt-get to install stuff.

Most of the releases are sid based but kernels vary like the one I use is Siduction based. There are differnet window manager releases eg XFCE, LXDE, JWM, Openbox etc the download site describes the different releases.

Forum: http://linuxbbq.org/bbs/index.php
Downloads as above:
http://sourceforge.net/projects/linuxbbq/files/

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#37 Post by mikeb »

Ah ok I was going via their site rather than that link with all the variations.

So there really is one distro per linux user after all :D

mike

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#38 Post by Griot »

Hi, folks.

I'd like to try antiX 13.2 on my single core@1.8 Athlon, 1+GB RAM,
Gforce4 Nvidia.

1st Q: Can I use grub4dos for frugal install on the same partition where my kennel is, sda1?
2nd Q: How? :roll:

BTW, I've already tried to install it by following instructions from here http://antix.mepis.org/index.php?title=Frugal_install but it doesn't work for me.
I'm stuck with an error 'File not found'. Posting my menu.lst for reference.

Image

What am I doing wrong?

Thanks.
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#39 Post by mikeb »

there is nothing specifying where the kernel and initrd is in there..

need something like
root hd(0,2)
or wherever they are ... this example is first drive third partition.

mike

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#40 Post by Griot »

:oops: Geee... Thanks, Mike.

Edit: Nope, doesn't work after adding line root (hd0,2) to menu.lst.
Now it looks like this:

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title antiX-13 Core 386 (sda3/antix-13-core386)
  root (hd0,2)
  kernel /antix-13-core386/vmlinuz quiet noxorg bdev=sda3 bdir=antix-13-core386 antix=LMX nomodeset
  initrd /antix-13-core386/initrd.gz
This time it's been half way to success, I'd say. Bootstrap=finished. Loading stuff=finished. Login (as root) = success and then cli-installer. OK. got there, was suprised by some questions (no, I don't want to partition HDD, no I don't want grub, etc.) and from there it went crazy. :?

I'll better try with LiveUSB, it won't s#$w anything up. Or much... :P

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