TahrPup 5.8.4

[rcrsn51]

Mick: Have you installed the gstoraster patch?

[01micko]

Mick: Have you installed the gstoraster patch?

Have now... works for me

[rcrsn51]

Have now... works for me

This is the same CUPS filter that Slacko uses with its Ghostscript 9.05.

The USB detection issue is a mystery. It must have something to do with how the kernel is identifying USB printers on some hardware and how CUPS gets that information.

I expect that this is a non-issue in the big-boy Linuxes which use their own printer installation systems instead of the CUPS web interface.

and the second method just says "Rendering completed" and then doesn't print

I tried this myself and it worked. You may have pasted in the URI incorrectly.

It would be nice to hear back from one of the people with this problem.

[kimathi]

regarding the usb printer detection, previously on tahr 5.8.0.3 i noticed in the /var/log/messages and i think one of those error / kernel logs in /tmp that there was an error with udev rules contained in rule 26 something and cups rules in no 55 or something. am not at a puppy machine currently but i think thats where to start, the message on cups was that the udev rules file was either defective or using parameters that were no longer valid. perhaps you could check / scan those logs.

[rcrsn51]

regarding the usb printer detection, previously on tahr 5.8.0.3 i noticed in the /var/log/messages and i think one of those error / kernel logs in /tmp that there was an error with udev rules contained in rule 26 something and cups rules in no 55 or something. am not at a puppy machine currently but i think thats where to start, the message on cups was that the udev rules file was either defective or using parameters that were no longer valid. perhaps you could check / scan those logs.

This issue has already been addressed above with the 55-cups.rules patch.

In your case, is your printer being detected by CUPS or not?

[Volhout]

Hi,

Is this a puppy derivative ? Or is it the next main stream puppy ?

Thanks,

Volhout

[666philb]

Hi,

Is this a puppy derivative ? Or is it the next main stream puppy ?

Thanks,

Volhout

hi volhout,
no it's not the next main stream puppy rather an experiment in using woof and getting a working tahr based puppy.
i'm hoping, with help!, to fix the problems it has (such as cups) and then add some stuff like quickpet and various useful pets of the forum. It won't be as small as an official pup, but more like pemasu's upups around 200mb.

[666philb]

666philb: I set up a printer in Tahr the manual way and it worked.

1. Install the gstoraster patch
2. Install the 55-cups.rules patch
3. Install in CUPS as parallel:/dev/usb/lp0

But I will be interested in knowing if wyzguy's USB BIOS change works.

still no go on the main computer, i also tried setting legacy usb option in the bios and trying different usb ports..... nothing. the same computer & printer work fine with precise.

do you think the problem is with the kernel or tahrs libs?

[rcrsn51]

I have no idea. What was the CUPS error message this time?

Two other people saw this problem. I would like to hear from them too.

Maybe you should just install the official CUPS from Tahr so everything matches.

[Edit] No reply. I guess this problem will remain unsolved.

[shinobar]

The directory /tmp in Tahr Puppy 5.8.0.8 ha strange permission, SGID bit on.
The directory /var/tmp has more strange permission 2755.

Most of Puppy and Ubuntu has permission 1777 for /tmp.
Ubuntu has same permission 1777 also for /var/tmp, whereas Puppy has 777 for /var/tmp.

Precise Puppy Japanese edition 571JP has permission 1777 both for /tmp and for /var/tmp, same as Ubuntu.

[shinobar]

# cat /var/log/hiawatha/error.log
Sat 14 Jun 2014 16:06:11 +0900|127.0.0.1|/root/Web-Server/blog/pup_pplog.pl|[Sat Jun 14 16:06:11 2014] pup_pplog.pl: Can't locate base.pm in @INC (you may need to install the base module) (@INC contains: /etc/perl /usr/local/lib/perl/5.18.2 /usr/local/share/perl/5.18.2 /usr/lib/perl5 /usr/share/perl5 /usr/lib/perl/5.18 /usr/share/perl/5.18 /usr/local/lib/site_perl .) at /usr/share/perl/5.18/CGI/Util.pm line 2.|[Sat Jun 14 16:06:11 2014] pup_pplog.pl: BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/share/perl/5.18/CGI/Util.pm line 2.|[Sat Jun 14 16:06:11 2014] pup_pplog.pl: Compilation failed in require at /usr/share/perl/5.18/CGI.pm line 28.|[Sat Jun 14 16:06:11 2014] pup_pplog.pl: BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/share/perl/5.18/CGI.pm line 28.|[Sat Jun 14 16:06:11 2014] pup_pplog.pl: Compilation failed in require at /root/Web-Server/blog/pup_pplog.pl line 28.|[Sat Jun 14 16:06:11 2014] pup_pplog.pl: BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /root/Web-Server/blog/pup_pplog.pl line 28.

Installed perl-base_5.18.2-2ubuntu1_i386.deb of the UBUNTU, then the PPLOG works.

[shinobar]

The directory /tmp in Tahr Puppy 5.8.0.8 ha strange permission, SGID bit on.

Found so many SGID bits on, /bin, /lib, /mnt, /root ... and so on.
Why?

[01micko]

FYI

A new 'huge' style kernel is posted at http://distro.ibiblio.org/puppylinux/huge_kernels/

These can be used in woof with the new 3builddistro-Z from the 'testing' branch.

The one for tahr (built in tahr) is huge-3.12.22-tahr-PAE-i686.tar.bz2.

For more info read woof-CE/kernel-kit/README and woof-CE/README-FIRST.

[666philb]

hi 01micko,

what are the advantages of a huge kernel build?

[666philb]

The directory /tmp in Tahr Puppy 5.8.0.8 ha strange permission, SGID bit on.

Found so many SGID bits on, /bin, /lib, /mnt, /root ... and so on.
Why?

hi shinobar,
i had some huge permissions problems on my precise install, caused by doing something silly and i think it has affected the entire partition.... and possibly affected the woof build.

the new build is done on a newly formatted partition and from a freshly downloaded slacko so i'll be interested to see if those permission oddities are still there

[Al1000]

Many thanks 666philb, very nice indeed!

Epson Stylus DX5050 wouldn't work after CUPS at first, so I rebooted (with no save), installed gstoraster_s533-9.05.pet (thanks rcrsn51) and ran CUPS again, and the printer worked just fine.

''Loading Drivers needed to access disks'' on boot-up is very fast indeed - faster than any other Puppy I've tried!

For some reason my drives are labeled as ''sdb1, sdb5, sdb7 and sdc1,'' instead of ''sda1, sda5, sda7 and sdb1.''

I did a frugal install to the hard drive, and while selecting Tahr from the Grub4Dos boot menu boots into Tahr, it doesn't seem to be finding the savefile - that's the main issue I am having so far with my installation.

[666philb]

Tahrpup 5.8.1.5
built with woof c.e. testing
includes all fixes from thread so far
save to folder
swapped pidgin for xchat
links in first post

This is a completely fresh build with freshly compiled kernel, hopefully fixing the permission oddities of the last build.

cups grrrr, i tried this fix here https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=153924 and it worked for me straight away on my old tahr install. so i included it in this build and the printer still wasn't seen!!. A combination of rebooting and replugging in the printer got it recognized eventually. Frustrating but some progress.

things to do...
the next release will probably have the 3.14 kernel, as my test build is running noticeably faster on my net book. and also any new woof developments.

[Al1000]

I deleted the save file and created a new one, and it's loading this one without any problem.

[666philb]

I deleted the save file and created a new one, and it's loading this one without any problem.

hi Al1000
i've just uploaded a new release... available in the first post

[gcmartin]

It took me all of 4 minutes, total, to both download TahrPUP5815, and boot TahrPUP in a VM guest (setup instructions here). Namely, 90seconds download to my folder and 75seconds to boot TahrPUP; all while my main PUP distro continues to run on the same PC.

After resolving a X desktop problem, I rebooted first, defining video for use with the VM guest and arriving at desktop and "FirstRUN". Set localization and redefinded the desktop to 1028X768,

Problem
After JWM setup this system is NOT showing its IP address when I hover over (mouse-over) the taskbar icon. Slacko has this built-in, but, for some reason it is missing in this distro.

System is stable.