TahrPup 5.8.4

[Al1000]

Printer working and drives now labeled correctly in 5.8.1.5.

Frugal install, same issue with the save file first time I shut down. I select the option to create the save file in a folder, then the computer creates it in /mnt/home.

Whereas after a reboot and creating a save file again (and deleting the first one), it creates it in /mnt/home/tahr5.8.1.5frugal.

(I didn't think of copying the original save file into the folder to see if that would work, at the time)

My IP address is also not showing in mouse-over.

[Billtoo]

Manual frugal install to a 32gb sdhc card.

video-info-glx 1.5.3 Wed 18 Jun 2014 on tahrpup 5.8.1.5 Linux 3.12.2 i686
0.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation GF110 [GeForce GTX 560 Ti OEM] (rev a1)
oem: NVIDIA
product: GF110 Board - 12630002 Chip Rev

X Server: Xorg Driver: nvidia
X.Org version: 1.15.1
dimensions: 3840x1080 pixels (1204x343 millimeters)
depth of root window: 24 planes

direct rendering: Yes
server glx vendor string: NVIDIA Corporation
server glx version string: 1.4
OpenGL vendor string: NVIDIA Corporation
OpenGL renderer string: GeForce GTX 560 Ti/PCIe/SSE2
OpenGL core profile version string: 4.3.0 NVIDIA 340.17

Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-2600 CPU @ 3.40GHz

This new version is working better.

Thanks

[Al1000]

I seem to have created a ''save folder'' when I thought I was creating a save file. This seems like a neat feature that I haven't come across before in Puppy.

[gcmartin]

Hello @Al1000

A "save-folder" means you will NEVER hit the space problem that has plagued users of save-files for years in Puppyland. (Unless, of course, you fill the partition that the directory resides....unlikely for most Linux users).

Hope this helps

[shinobar]

Good job, 666philb!
Thar Pup 5.8.1.5:
The permssion of /var/tmp is 755, which should be 777 or 1777.

BTW, the CUPS has the same problem as i posted on the slacko alpha topic:
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 132#784132
1. Installed epson_inkjet_printer_escpr-1.4.0.pet (my printer is Epson EP-704A)
2. Ran CUPS. Under Add Printer, select AppSocket/JetDirect.
3. On the next screen, delete "socket" and type "parallel:/dev/usb/lp0"
4. Tried printing test page from the web interface. Nothing the printer do.
5. The Web interface says "Unable to open device file "/dev/usb/lp0": Permission denied"

Same problem with the Tahr Pup 5.8.0.8, 5.8.1.5, and the Slacko-5.9.1.
No problem with the Slacko 5.7, nor the Precise Puppy 571JP.

Another Japanese Forum member reported no problem with USB connected printer but problem with the network printer.
Somewhat depends on the hardware?

[sszindian]

Thar Pup 5.8.1.5

Did exactly as shinobar but different printer:

HP Deskjet 1050 j410 Series (USB)

1. Ran CUPS. Under Add Printer, select AppSocket/JetDirect.
2. On the next screen, delete "socket" and type "parallel:/dev/usb/lp0"
3. Finished setup, printer was recognized
4. Tried printing a test page. NOTHING
5. Interface says-
Thu 19 Jun 2014 11:41:15 PM XXX
"Unable to open device file "/dev/usb/lp0": Permission denied"

6. Tried printing a few words from Leafpad, my printer isn't even recognized there.

Other than the printing (so far) this is an excellent piece of work!!!

>>>---Indian------>

[James C]

Runs nicely from the live cd but a frugal install results in immediate kernel panic.
Same problem as the latest Slacko so the search for a fix is underway.
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 941#783941

Running now from cd with savefolder on hdd (ext3).

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# report-video
VIDEO REPORT: tahrpup, version 5.8.1.5

Chip description:
VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation C68 [GeForce 7050 PV / nForce 630a] (rev a2)

Requested by /etc/X11/xorg.conf:
  Resolution (widthxheight, in pixels): 1024x768x16
  Depth (bits, or planes):              24
  Modules requested to be loaded:       dbe 

Probing Xorg startup log file (/var/log/Xorg.0.log):
  Driver loaded (and currently in use): nouveau
  Loaded modules: dbe dri2 exa extmod fb glx kbd mouse shadowfb

Actual rendering on monitor:
  Resolution:  1440x900 pixels (380x238 millimeters)
  Depth:       24 planes

...the above also recorded in /tmp/report-video

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# glxgears
Running synchronized to the vertical refresh.  The framerate should be
approximately the same as the monitor refresh rate.
301 frames in 5.0 seconds = 60.091 FPS
299 frames in 5.0 seconds = 59.741 FPS
299 frames in 5.0 seconds = 59.748 FPS
299 frames in 5.0 seconds = 59.756 FPS

[shinobar]

As posted on the Slacko topic:
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 181#784181
Same reproduced on the TahrPup-5.8.1.5.

(Installed epson_inkjet_printer_escpr-1.4.0.pet for my printer.)
# chmod 500 /usr/lib/cups/backend/*
The web interface shows my USB connected EPSON EP-404A on the list of the local printers.
Printing testpage. Success.

And confirmed the permission of the device node doesn't matter, 666 or 660.
# chmod 660 /dev/usb/lp0
# ls -l /dev/usb/lp0
crw-rw---- 1 root lp 180, 0 6月 20 2014 /dev/usb/lp0

[shinobar]

The SFS_Load in the TahrPup-5.8.1.4 is reverted with the old version which does not work properly with save-to-diretory.
Please update to sfs_load-2.0.8.pet:
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=64354
#09 Jun 2014 v2.0.8: ydrv, save-to-directory(gyro), DISSOSIATE option to be set by hardcode (thanks to R-S-H), remove find -mount option(Karl Godt)

[n3w_puppy]

testing 5.8.1.5 full fresh HDD install ext4

pmount - error

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** (gtkdialog_pmount:10206): ERROR **: gtkdialog: Error in line 14, near token 'string': syntax error

Edit:

Added Lexmark S200 network printer without any problem.
First I installed Lexmark official driver ( deb ) then added printer with socket address.

p.s.
Personally I am not sure if PaleMoon it is ok to be default browser;
I tested Palemoon for win and it was unable to load/run web plugin that Firefox & SeaMonkey is loading & running without problems ( it is a plugin for CCTV )

[666philb]

(Installed epson_inkjet_printer_escpr-1.4.0.pet for my printer.)
# chmod 500 /usr/lib/cups/backend/*
The web interface shows my USB connected EPSON EP-404A on the list of the local printers.
Printing testpage. Success.

And confirmed the permission of the device node doesn't matter, 666 or 660.
# chmod 660 /dev/usb/lp0
# ls -l /dev/usb/lp0
crw-rw---- 1 root lp 180, 0 6月 20 2014 /dev/usb/lp0

thanks shinobar ... cups now fixed

[sszindian]

666philp wrote:
thanks shinobar ... cups now fixed
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Where is the 'fixed' version? I went to the download site and it still shows- tahrpup-5.8.1.5_PAE.iso -Is this now the fixed version? or isn't it available yet? or will there be a .pet-fix? Would like to test it and see if my HP USB will finally setup and print.

'Thanks'

>>>---Indian------>

[666philb]

hi sszindian

no new version yet .....but i'll release another tahrfix.pet soon.
to fix cups just type this in a terminal

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chmod 500 /usr/lib/cups/backend/* 

[sszindian]

Thanks 666philp!!!

That's a lot 'clearer'... I'll give it a try then on with the testing!

>>>---Indian------>

[James C]

Naturally on this old box a frugal install boots fine........

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# report-video
VIDEO REPORT: tahrpup, version 5.8.1.5

Chip description:
VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82865G Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02)

Requested by /etc/X11/xorg.conf:
  Resolution (widthxheight, in pixels): 1024x768
  Depth (bits, or planes):              24
  Modules requested to be loaded:       dbe 

Probing Xorg startup log file (/var/log/Xorg.0.log):
  Driver loaded (and currently in use): intel
  Loaded modules: dbe dri2 extmod glx kbd mouse

Actual rendering on monitor:
  Resolution:  1024x768 pixels (270x203 millimeters)
  Depth:       24 planes

...the above also recorded in /tmp/report-video

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# glxgears
Running synchronized to the vertical refresh.  The framerate should be
approximately the same as the monitor refresh rate.
379 frames in 5.0 seconds = 75.668 FPS
376 frames in 5.0 seconds = 75.126 FPS
376 frames in 5.0 seconds = 75.161 FPS
376 frames in 5.0 seconds = 75.040 FPS
377 frames in 5.0 seconds = 75.230 FPS
376 frames in 5.0 seconds = 75.158 FPS

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-Computer-
Processor		: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.80GHz
Memory		: 1544MB (167MB used)
Machine Type		: Physical machine
Operating System		: tahrpup - 5.8.1.5
User Name		: root (root)
Date/Time		: Thu 19 Jun 2014 05:50:18 PM CDT
-Display-
Resolution		: 1024x768 pixels
OpenGL Renderer		: Mesa DRI Intel(R) 865G x86/MMX/SSE2
X11 Vendor		: The X.Org Foundation
-Audio Devices-
Audio Adapter		: ICH4 - Intel ICH5

[666philb]

here's fixes for....

cups thanks shinobar
pmount thanks n3w_puppy
network tray thanks gcmartin also has the rest of slackos new tray icons
sfs_load 2.0.8 (older one doesn't work with save to folder)

https://www.dropbox.com/s/gp5rlkwidqgnxn1/tahrfix2.pet

[n3w_puppy]

thanks for last fix

I have question:

It is VLC working for you ?
No matter what format/codec it is media, avi, mpg, mkw...
for me it is not working, it just display the title of file it open and nothing more you can see I have 3 death vlc on task bar which I can't normally close..

edit:
I just installed QTPlayer2 to see if work and it is working ( not very good but media it is opened and played... I have to find default player in Precise 5.7.1, that one worked OK.

Another question:
It is hard to update latest Precise 5.7.1 kernel, only this kernel or latest kernel ( from Ubuntu ) and all default app from Precise to remain; nothing else changed if not required by kernel update ?

thank you for answer.

[666philb]

hi n3w_puppy

yes vlc is working fine for me ..... have you tried running it in a terminal?

there is a precise with a newer kernel by stemsee here http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=93409 or you could build one with woof https://github.com/puppylinux-woof-CE/woof-CE

[Al1000]

Hello @Al1000

A "save-folder" means you will NEVER hit the space problem that has plagued users of save-files for years in Puppyland. (Unless, of course, you fill the partition that the directory resides....unlikely for most Linux users).

Hope this helps

Thanks, I figured it would be something like that. Is Tahr the only Pup that has this save folder? I thought that perhaps Precise 5.7.1 and/or Slacko 5.7 might do the same, but they didn't give me that option when I tried installing them, and unfortunately Tahr won't boot my old laptop.

@ 666Philb:

1) The HD partitions on my frugal installation of Tahr 5.1.8.5 have become incorrectly named, as they were in the previous release. They are again named as sdb1, sdb2... sdc1 etc, there is no ''sda.'' Every operating system that I install on this computer thinks it has a floppy drive, even though it doesn't, just in case that has something to do with it, but every other Pup I've tried names the partitions correctly.

I would be interested to know, does anyone else find that drive partitions are named incorrectly, or is it just me?

2) I wanted to install Tahr to my laptop as well, but it wouldn't boot up due to issues with the graphics. I had similar issues trying to boot this laptop with Ubuntu, Lubuntu and Linux Lite, with Kubuntu 12.04 being the first ''large'' Linux OS I found that works. But every other version of Puppy I've tried boots up just fine, and Tahr is the first one I've come across that doesn't.

If you want any more details on either or both of these issues, please let me know.

@ n3w_puppy, vlc is working fine for me. In case you haven't tried it, changing the video output in Tools > Preferences > Video > Output, often does the trick.

[666philb]

hi Al1000,

save to folder is a new addition to woof, and should be in puppies built from now onwards. 01micko has a new slacko being tested with the option..
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=94328

drive partitions are being named correctly for me on two different computers, so not sure what's going on there.

what happens when booting fails on your laptop ? does it make it to xorgwizard? .... what graphic chip does it have?