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#41 Post by jangelelcangry »

hi and good work with slacko puppy :)
but i'm having problems booting slacko64 5.6-9 versions using uui.
it says puppy_slacko64_5.9.1.sfs not found. Dropping out to initial-ramdisk console...
/bin/sh: can't access tty; Job control turned off
with a dvd rw disk i had, would be like hit and miss booting 5.8 version. sometimes boots other times the error appears.
but with usb will never boot in my sandy bridge machine.
why can't i boot slacko64 from usb?

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#42 Post by Billtoo »

I did a manual frugal install to a 16gb flash drive and tested it on a
pc with newer intel graphics.
The mouse was slow moving, plugging a drive into a usb port was slow
to mount and read.
Seems that anything to do with usb was slow.

Then I moved the flash drive to a pc with nvidia graphics and using
the nouveau driver, everything is good, mouse is working correctly and
when plugging in a usb device it's mounted quickly.

video-info-glx 1.5.3 Fri 27 Jun 2014 on Slacko64 Puppy 5.9.1 Linux 3.12.22 x86_64
0.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation GF110 [GeForce GTX 560 Ti OEM] (rev a1)
oem: NVIDIA
product: GF110 Board - 12630002 Chip Rev

X Server: Xorg Driver: nouveau
X.Org version: 1.14.3
dimensions: 3840x1080 pixels (508x285 millimeters)
depth of root window: 24 planes

direct rendering: Yes
server glx vendor string: SGI
server glx version string: 1.4
OpenGL vendor string: nouveau
OpenGL renderer string: Gallium 0.4 on NVC8
OpenGL version string: 2.1 Mesa 9.1.7
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#43 Post by 01micko »

Hey Billtoo.

Hmmm.. maybe the kernel is a bit old for recent intel?

You could try one of stemsee's kernels or build one your self, easy swappin' with the new setup.

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#44 Post by Billtoo »

01micko wrote: Hmmm.. maybe the kernel is a bit old for recent intel?
When it booted up on the pc with sandybridge/ivybridge (forget which it is) disable interrupt 16 was on the screen for a second or two.
The interrupt 16 doesn't show up when it boots on this nvidia pc.

Could that be it or is that message normal on a pc with intel graphics?

EDIT:
I just booted up the pc with intel graphics again to double check, it has ivybridge graphics and the message is "disabling IRQ 16"

Mouse problem still there, also mounting/reading flash drive is very slow.

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#45 Post by Puppus Dogfellow »

i want to put this onto an external ssd i have which is apparently recognizable by my hardware all of sudden.

is there a more recent version of the f2fs-usb-installer-0.3-i686.pet, or should i just use that?

thanks in advance.

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#46 Post by James C »

Manual frugal install.....looking good.

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# report-video
Report Video 1.3 - Sat 28 Jun 2014 on Slacko64 Puppy 5.9.1 - Linux 3.12.22 x86_64
 
Chip description:
  d.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation C61 [GeForce 7025 / nForce 630a] (rev a2)  
  oem: NVIDIA
  product: MCP61 - mcp61-86 Chip Rev
 
X Server: Xorg  Driver used: nouveau

X.Org version: 1.14.3
  dimensions:    1440x900 pixels (381x238 millimeters)
  depth of root window:    24 planes 


   ...the above also recorded in /tmp/root/ as report-video,
and archived with xorg.conf and Xorg.0.log as report-video-full.gz

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# glxgears
Running synchronized to the vertical refresh.  The framerate should be
approximately the same as the monitor refresh rate.
3691 frames in 5.0 seconds = 738.116 FPS
4066 frames in 5.0 seconds = 812.818 FPS
4153 frames in 5.0 seconds = 829.881 FPS
4136 frames in 5.0 seconds = 827.133 FPS
4137 frames in 5.0 seconds = 827.230 FPS

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-Computer-
Processor		: 2x AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 5200+
Memory		: 3791MB (422MB used)
Machine Type		: Physical machine
Operating System		: Slacko64 Puppy - 5.9.1
User Name		: root (root)
Date/Time		: Sat 28 Jun 2014 10:18:28 AM CDT
-Display-
Resolution		: 1440x900 pixels
OpenGL Renderer		: Gallium 0.4 on NV4C
X11 Vendor		: The X.Org Foundation
-Audio Devices-
Audio Adapter		: HDA-Intel - HDA NVidia
Audio Adapter		: PC-Speaker - pcsp

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# free
             total         used         free       shared      buffers
Mem:       3791388      1823904      1967484            0       113552
-/+ buffers:            1710352      2081036
Swap:      8294396            0      8294396
# 
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#47 Post by IlluminatiPL »

5.8.8: 3.13.1
6.0 alpha: 3.12.22
So Why...?

When I recommend to remove a old Graphics (useless):

apm,ark,ast,chips,Cirrus,Mach64,MGA,Neomagic,S3,Savage,Tdfx,Trident,SiS,v4l,Voodoo - Because that's is only at 32bit. (not 64bit. - Main at 64bit Graphics is: Intel,AMD,Nvidia)

And Add to a Wacom drivers (Some users haves a Tablet Graphics) or a Replace to Midori from Firefox. [Lightest web Browser]

So any way I can be removing about a ePDFview... (Firefox/Chromium haves a HTML5 PDF Reader...) or Whatever no one at a Minimalist can be use a Sylpheed (All web browsers can be read at a E-Mail...) or a Transmission (I prefer from URL/FTP)

And a Second Question about a .sfs Lite make:

http://woof-ce.26403.n7.nabble.com/I-ha ... td515.html (From my Actually Account.)

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#48 Post by LateAdopter »

Hello 01micko

I noticed that fatdog had built a new kernel. So I thought,"why not stick it in slacko64 and see what happens?"

It actually works. That's amazing!

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-Version-
Kernel		: Linux 3.15.2 (x86_64)
Version		: #1 SMP Mon Jun 30 16:56:22 EDT 2014
C Library		: Unknown
Distribution		: Slacko64 Puppy - 5.9.1
-Current Session-
Computer Name		: puppypc15445
User Name		: root (root)
Home Directory		: /root
Desktop Environment		: Unknown (Window Manager: JWM)
-Misc-
Uptime		: 2 minutes
Load Average		: 0.61, 0.22, 0.08

Thanks 01micko jamesbond kirk for all this interesting stuff to play with.

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#49 Post by Jades »

Testing on Pentium D machine.

Following a pfix=ram boot, the Quick Setup option to launch the Xorg Wizard isn't working properly. On clicking the button for restarting X Server after making the settings Puppy briefly drops to the prompt as you'd expect but rather than starting the wizard it goes back to the desktop. Neither the keyboard or mouse will work however the machine is still running as the clock is working. Only way out is a hardware reset.

As with the other version of Slacko, I can't see the DeskJet 720C printer connected via parallel port in CUPS. On this version, typing modprobe ppdev in the task window returns this message:-

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modprobe: FATAL: Module ppdev not found.
When loading Firefox it pops up a new tab and tries to visit http://www.%u.com/ which errors.
Zhaan - AMD K6 2 500, 512MB RAM, ATI Rage 128 VR. Full install Wary 5.5 [url=http://tinyurl.com/dy66kh8]HardInfo Report[/url]
Merlin - Core i5-4590, 8GB RAM, Radeon R9 270X. Slacko 5.7.0

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#50 Post by Jades »

Jades wrote:Testing on Pentium D machine.

Following a pfix=ram boot, the Quick Setup option to launch the Xorg Wizard isn't working properly.
I think it's actually a problem with the Wizard itself - I dropped to the command line and tried to run it manually and all I got was the probing hardware message and it stopped at the prompt. The Wizard itself didn't come up.

Firewall setup wizard isn't working properly either, complains about an invalid grep option and also the absence of the Local Loopback interface - even though it's listed in Frisbee.
Zhaan - AMD K6 2 500, 512MB RAM, ATI Rage 128 VR. Full install Wary 5.5 [url=http://tinyurl.com/dy66kh8]HardInfo Report[/url]
Merlin - Core i5-4590, 8GB RAM, Radeon R9 270X. Slacko 5.7.0

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#51 Post by gyro »

SFR wrote:So did a quick test on Acer AO 722.

1. It takes a looong time until the X is reached.
Same problem on my Acer Aspire 5740G with ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5650 graphics.

Uses the "radeon" driver.
In /var/log/messages I get an error message:
"kern.err: smc: error loading firmware "radeon/REDWOOD_smc.bin"
This firmware file is present in slacko64 5.8.8, but not in 5.9.1.
Problem does not occur in slacko64 5.8.8.

gyro

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#52 Post by 01micko »

Thanks gyro,

I'll do a review of all fw and include anything that I have missed.

I am also upgrading to 3.14x kernel as this has recently gone LTS. It is supposed to increase the open source radeon driver's performance substantially negating the need for the fglrx proprietary driver. I hope that's true because that is a real PITA to compile and the legacy version simply does not build with any xorg_server >= to 1.12.4 (and I've done an extensive search for patches).
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#53 Post by zigbert »

Tested on my old EEE notebook.
Works out of the box, but no noticeable speed improvements compared to 32 bit.

gcmartin

#54 Post by gcmartin »

Understanding, you wrote: ...3.14x kernel as this has recently gone LTS ...
With the KVM additions in 3.15, might you consider it? For those who may not have tried KVM I'm seeing phenomenal speed in the distros that I am booting in the VM guests.

If your processor(s) have the virtualization feature (most 64bit Intel or AMDs do), you should expect the same speedy operations in boot and running. In tests, the distros are booting and running faster in the guest than in native, bare-metal runs. With additional kernel attention it should take advantage, no matter old/new 64bit PCs/Laptops/tablets, we should expect the increased ability to service running guests. Simple writeup steps (with processor compatibility tests of your PCs) can be viewed here.

On another note ...
Am hoping that I get enough time to report on use of Slacko64-591 on the touch laptops, tonight.
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#55 Post by gcmartin »

HP Touch Laptop
Testing on the same touch laptop used for demos and presentations: Runs LightHouse64 most of the time.

Slacko64 exhibits the Same problem as last year. The touch on screen is not tracking with at finger's location; generally pointer is off to the left of the finger. Makes it difficult to tap accurately and to navigate pull-downs.

I may be able to test a HP Touch All-in-One desktop PC over the weekend if this will boot on an UEFI system.

Hope this helps

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#56 Post by scsijon »

Mick, the slacko64-5.9.1.iso on aarnet is d/l in bytes (<391bps), I wonder if it's corrupted, may be worth blowing away and let it be re-d/l from ibiblio overnight. the devx is ok.

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#57 Post by 01micko »

@gcm

In the Desktop menu did you try 'Calibrate Touchscreen'? I have no idea if it works. Also try the Puppy Theme Manager and choose one of the Stardust touch themes and in the menu section choose 'huge'. Hth.

@scsijon

Not much I can do about it. The size looks ok. Maybe aarnet is experiencing difficulties? Try internode .. physically closer to you anyway. Oh, but you're on satellite right?
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#58 Post by scsijon »

01micko wrote:@scsijon

Not much I can do about it. The size looks ok. Maybe aarnet is experiencing difficulties? Try internode .. physically closer to you anyway. Oh, but you're on satellite right?
yep, which is why I use aarnet as it has a direct link from the Broken Hill hub. I'll try from nluug overnight tonight while up and see what happens.

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#59 Post by scsijon »

ok, it came down from nluug, but slow.

?didn't I see some package build instruction somewhere for slacko64?

I have a few for you like qt5(, a sfs if ever there was one at nearly 1gig of source), my favorite jpeg editor called mangaed(, it's really a vector editor with translation and cleanup abilities for redoing doc's with pictures) and a few other esoterics.

regards

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#60 Post by gcmartin »

In your opening post ,you wrote:If you have touch screen I have included a calibration tool. Very basic xlib version. Let me know if it works.
I tested on my HP Touch Laptop (and the Theme suggestion as well to no avail) and get the following error message. Hope this helps

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