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FatdogArm Beta1 and Beta2 - 1 Oct 2014
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mavrothal


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PostPosted: Fri 20 Jun 2014, 16:07    Post subject:  

jamesbond wrote:
Next release of FatdogArm will run on cubox-i - the i4 and i2 series.

Will have more changes other than the kernel/bootloader(/video diver)?

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PostPosted: Fri 20 Jun 2014, 22:11    Post subject:  

Well, do you have a request? Wink
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PostPosted: Sat 21 Jun 2014, 11:29    Post subject:  

jamesbond wrote:
Well, do you have a request? Wink

No, not really. There are apps that would be nice to have in the repo but I do not see the need for any core additions.

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PostPosted: Sat 05 Jul 2014, 12:48    Post subject:  

I don't mind stocking the repo. Let me know what you have in mind Laughing
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PostPosted: Sat 05 Jul 2014, 14:08    Post subject:  

Accesspoint software to turn it into a smart wifi AP. Also Shared drive software. Always wa ted my little MElE into a tiny file server for my server farm cross compile setup.
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PostPosted: Mon 07 Jul 2014, 12:13    Post subject:  

Ted Dog wrote:
Accesspoint software to turn it into a smart wifi AP.

URL, please?
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Also Shared drive software. Always wa ted my little MElE into a tiny file server for my server farm cross compile setup.
samba4 is in the repo. samba-tng is part of basesfs, I think. I think pure-ftpd is also in the repo. Do you need anything else?
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PostPosted: Mon 07 Jul 2014, 17:10    Post subject:  

Wish I knew. Saw someone did it last year for the mele 1000 when everyone was turning it into servers. Does Hostpad sound right it was part of the setting for the chipset inside mele.
Samba would work thanks. still would like povray but not a big deal a on screen keyboard would be nice had one compiled but unable to get work. Something else was grabing the hooks or not letting it go.
My one year self ban on cool new toys end soon, what is out there that is capable ( VGA etc Sata wifi etc like mele is but with upsized speed and ram higher. ) or a nice hackable tablet?
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PostPosted: Sun 20 Jul 2014, 12:18    Post subject:  

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=84269
here is a link that shows the tools needed to set Mele1000 into a wifi Access point.
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PostPosted: Mon 21 Jul 2014, 08:48    Post subject:  

Not quite understanding the techtalk here and there but might be of interest: kind of pc running linux android simultaneously or something like that,


http://www.volkspc.org/unified-distribution/


"Volks-pc" means "People's pc"
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PostPosted: Wed 30 Jul 2014, 11:57    Post subject:  

@Ted dog, I'll look at it.

@Nancy - yes, that's interesting. Unfortunately they don't share a lot at the moment. There are always two possibilities to do this:
a) run android kernel and the run linux userland on top of android.
b) run standard linux kernel and have linux userland running side-by-side with android (or may be running android on top).

Most solutions on the web do a). If volkspc does b), that would be interesting. In theory it's not too difficult, most of android stuff are Java anyway ... so one only needs to get the underlying Java VM running and the rest should fall in place (again, in theory). It does require you to understand android's internal workings, though Wink

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PostPosted: Thu 31 Jul 2014, 15:41    Post subject:  

jamesbond wrote:
@Ted dog, I'll look at it.

@Nancy - yes, that's interesting. Unfortunately they don't share a lot at the moment. ..


@JamesB
If I understood well, the dev on the topic of cnx-software.com offered in "replies" a testversion or something of the like ?
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PostPosted: Thu 07 Aug 2014, 11:55    Post subject:  

Not really. I think someone there pointed out some tarballs (=package) with binaries (=programs, libraries) as well as a kernel module that is tied specifically to the kernel and Android version that runs on MK808.

That's it. Not even an image that we can put into SD card (or flash into the device) so we can get it running. And it is specifically tied to MK808. That tarball specifically contains an implementation of the MicroXwin idea (how to accelerate Linux graphics using Android stack) - not the whole side-by-side Android/Linux idea.

The idea does have its merits, though.

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PostPosted: Sun 24 Aug 2014, 18:31    Post subject:  

Is this an odroid u3 device which will boot FatdogArm?

http://www.amazon.com/Tronsmart-CX-919-Rockchip-External-Antenna-Black/dp/B00DQ6UPIW/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1408915089&sr=1-1&keywords=cx+919

Never mind, I found their website! Thank you!
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PostPosted: Mon 08 Sep 2014, 16:57    Post subject:  

Jamesbond,

I have received my odroid u3, and have been trying to learn how to use it and also how to use FatdogArm, and I have some observations/questions.

I had the same failure that IhaveU3 and DC had in trying to get eth0 up and running using the tools in the Control Panel/Network Setup. I also had to use “dhcpcd -t 30 -h fatdog -d eth0“ in the terminal to get eth0 to activate.

I purchased the wifi dongle that Hardkernel supplies, and wlan0 too would not activate! It turns out that the dongle hardware (RTL8188CUS) needs the rtl8192cu driver, and this driver did not seem to be present in the copy of FatdogArm that I downloaded. Fortunately I got a copy of Ubuntu 14.04 for the odroid U3, and it had the driver so I tried a copy from Ubuntu in FDArm, did a depmod, and it is working great. It would be helpful to include that module in the FDArm download.

Speaking of modules. When I do “lsmod” on the running system, only 4 or 5 modules are reported as being loaded! Where are they? Fatdog64 had over 50 modules loaded when I last counted!

When I tried to set up CUPS, the connection to http://localhost:631 could not be established. Is that something I am doing wrong, or is CUPS not set up yet?

I couldn’t find Pfind.'Very Happy'That’s a very helpful program!

Is there some documentation available on creating packages for FDArm?

And finally, I am having difficulty compiling “gnome-doc-utils”, getting the error

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checking for XML::Parser... configure: error: XML::Parser perl module is required for intltool


and of course “perl-xml-parser” package is already installed. I even removed it and re-installed the package, but “XML::Parser perl module” still could not be found. Are there any config files that need to be tweaked to run perl? Any suggestions in how to resolve this?

Thank you.
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PostPosted: Wed 10 Sep 2014, 01:08    Post subject:  

Hi eowens2,

eowens2 wrote:
I had the same failure that IhaveU3 and DC had in trying to get eth0 up and running using the tools in the Control Panel/Network Setup. I also had to use “dhcpcd -t 30 -h fatdog -d eth0“ in the terminal to get eth0 to activate.
What you need to do is just to specify "auto" in "configure ip address", and that's it - you can either "activate now" or reboot. That being said, it worked with wireless, but I haven't tested with eth0 myself because I don't have cables. I'll look into it again.

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I purchased the wifi dongle that Hardkernel supplies, and wlan0 too would not activate! It turns out that the dongle hardware (RTL8188CUS) needs the rtl8192cu driver, and this driver did not seem to be present in the copy of FatdogArm that I downloaded. Fortunately I got a copy of Ubuntu 14.04 for the odroid U3, and it had the driver so I tried a copy from Ubuntu in FDArm, did a depmod, and it is working great. It would be helpful to include that module in the FDArm download.
I didn't have HandKernel dongle so I had no idea what chipset it has and what driver it needs. I can't remember what was kernel configuration I uploaded for beta1, whether it comes with rtl8192cu. The one I have running right now has rtl8192cu driver built-in. That being said, HardKernel has updates for the kernel for rtl8188cus, so perhaps the best way is for me to compile a new kernel package for U2/U3.

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Speaking of modules. When I do “lsmod” on the running system, only 4 or 5 modules are reported as being loaded! Where are they? Fatdog64 had over 50 modules loaded when I last counted!
Haha, yeah. Some of these modules are built-in to the kernel (e.g. the sound modules). Some are for hardware that don't exist, so they are not loaded. I also compiled a minimum number of modules because ARM platform doesn't have the luxury of gigs of RAM like 64-bit platform. I'm waiting for feedback from those who use FatdogArm to tell me what other modules they usually need, and I'm happy to re-build the kernel to include those modules. So please do tell me whether you need some modules that aren't there yet.

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When I tried to set up CUPS, the connection to http://localhost:631 could not be established. Is that something I am doing wrong, or is CUPS not set up yet?
That's because CUPS service is not activated by default. Go to control panel --> Service Manager and activate it

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I couldn’t find Pfind.'Very Happy'That’s a very helpful program!
I'll package it.

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Is there some documentation available on creating packages for FDArm?
Not yet, I've written one for Fatdog64 (which is applicable for FatdogArm as well) for the next release but it is still a bit short on what I'd like it to be.

The simplest way is to do it "make install DESTDIR=/tmp/xxx", then "cd /tmp/xxx", then "makepkg -c n -l n /path/to/package-version-armhf-1.tbz"

The second most simplest way to do it is "make -p /archive/repo", then "paco -lp package-version -- make install", followed by "paco2pkg package-version".

The third simplest way is to build the package in sandbox and install as usual, and then from *outside* sandbox do "sb2dir.sh package-version", and then "cd /tmp/package-version", and then "makepkg -c n -l n /path/to/package-version-armhf-1.tbz"

And finally, look at the notes in /usr/src/pkgbuild/README Smile

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And finally, I am having difficulty compiling “gnome-doc-utils”, getting the error

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checking for XML::Parser... configure: error: XML::Parser perl module is required for intltool


and of course “perl-xml-parser” package is already installed. I even removed it and re-installed the package, but “XML::Parser perl module” still could not be found. Are there any config files that need to be tweaked to run perl? Any suggestions in how to resolve this?
I'll look into this and get back to you.

cheers!

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