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imago

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PostPosted: Wed 16 Jul 2014, 05:18    Post_subject:  

666philb wrote:
imago wrote:
hi
can you say what for ydrv need?
i use adrv for make save to sfs module


hi imago . this explains http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=83675

i want know how boot ydrv, before main puppy sfs or after? for example adrv boots before main puppy sfs
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PostPosted: Wed 16 Jul 2014, 05:52    Post_subject:  

imago wrote:

i want know how boot ydrv, before main puppy sfs or after? for example adrv boots before main puppy sfs

The init mounts the main sfs, adrv, ydrv and zdrv together

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PostPosted: Wed 16 Jul 2014, 06:54    Post_subject: adrv, ydrv and zdrv  

Puppy loads in the order, pupsave, adrv, ydrv, main sfs, zdrv, and then extra sfs.
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PostPosted: Wed 16 Jul 2014, 06:59    Post_subject:  

I just tested Shinobar`s packaged tahr puppy iso with 3.14.11 kernel.
Several things are splendid in it.
- intel/nvidia 710M dual graphics works great. No need to remove nouveau.ko kernel module. Suspend and resume without freezing works with that kernel. 3.14 kernel and up has finally fized that nouveau.ko freezing problem. 3.15 kernel is ok also.
- Powertop works. There is sufficient config options enabled in kernel so that powertop gets information. Busybox included one is broken as always, but from ppm Powertop 2.5 version works. You get power usage information when in battery with laptop by using powertop. Great way to check how energy efficient is the kernel. Intel_pstate cpu freguency governor has been used in this kernel. Meaning no more ondemand option without disabling it. I test how responding this intel_pstate is. Previously I have disabled it with boot parameter: intel_pstate=disable
- Ath9k.ko wireless kernel module loads now with this kernel automatically. No need to load by using /root/Startup/folder with script to load it. Great !
- Xrandr shows me 1360x768 screen resolution option. And I obtain it by feeding it to the xorg.conf file. The default 1920x1080 resolution is too small for my eyes...due to aging and presbyopia. None of recent Slackos provide me 1360x768 resolution so Slacko`s are beyond me.
- The flsynclient and touchpad gets me delicate touchpad responsiveness....previously I couldnt finetune touchpad much with Dpup Wheezy or Upup Raring because the touchpad movements turned to awkward like drunken. Now I can finetune touchpad with Tahr Puppy. I suppose xorg version and kernel improvements are behind this progress.

- Overall...after finetuning things for my liking....I have great Puppy distro under my fingers here. Thanks 666philb of this Tahr Puppy.

http://i.imgur.com/3CyhJfT.jpg

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PostPosted: Wed 16 Jul 2014, 07:10    Post_subject: Re: forcepae  

666philb wrote:
shinobar wrote:

vmlinuz need to be add ID string, otherwise PDEV1 is blank. See /etc/rc.d/PUPSTATE.
Code:
# echo -n 't140711144545ZZZZ5.8.3XXXXXXXXXX' >> vmlinuz


hi shinobar,

can you explain this a bit more... does that command edit the vmlinuz?

The vmlinuz and the main sfs has hidden ID string.
You can see it typing like
# tail -c 32 puppy_thar_5.3.8.sfs
# tail -c 32 vmlinuz

Puppy need to know from which vmlinuz it booted off. The ID string is a label to identify which. The ID string value is written in the file DISTRO_SPECS.

666philb wrote:
do i need to run it on the other kernels i've created?

Yes. The ID string is automatically add by the woof. You need manually add the ID string to the new vmlinuz if you do not make a distro by the woof. It means the kernel is not portable between Puppy distro or version, and replacing kernel is not simple even if you use the huge kernel/zdrv system.

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PostPosted: Wed 16 Jul 2014, 07:59    Post_subject: Re: adrv, ydrv and zdrv  

shinobar wrote:
Puppy loads in the order, pupsave, adrv, ydrv, main sfs, zdrv, and then extra sfs.

My understanding is that the init line
Code:
mount -t aufs -o udba=reval,diropq=w,dirs=${UMNTRW}${UMNTRO0}${ALAYER}${YLAYER}${UMNTRO1}${ZLAYER}${UMNTRO} unionfs /pup_new

suggests layer order but all the layers (including main/a/y/s SFSs) are loaded together.
Ie you can not have code in ${UMNTRW} that will block loading of other layers (not unload or mask but block from adding into the original union).
Is my understanding wrong? Do you actually have sequential loading of SFSs as the original questions was asking?

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PostPosted: Wed 16 Jul 2014, 08:23    Post_subject: Re: forcepae  

shinobar wrote:
666philb wrote:
shinobar wrote:

vmlinuz need to be add ID string, otherwise PDEV1 is blank. See /etc/rc.d/PUPSTATE.
Code:
# echo -n 't140711144545ZZZZ5.8.3XXXXXXXXXX' >> vmlinuz


hi shinobar,

can you explain this a bit more... does that command edit the vmlinuz?

The vmlinuz and the main sfs has hidden ID string.
You can see it typing like
# tail -c 32 puppy_thar_5.3.8.sfs
# tail -c 32 vmlinuz

Puppy need to know from which vmlinuz it booted off. The ID string is a label to identify which. The ID string value is written in the file DISTRO_SPECS.

666philb wrote:
do i need to run it on the other kernels i've created?

Yes. The ID string is automatically add by the woof. You need manually add the ID string to the new vmlinuz if you do not make a distro by the woof. It means the kernel is not portable between Puppy distro or version, and replacing kernel is not simple even if you use the huge kernel/zdrv system.


thanks shinobar
i've now changed the ID string on all the uploaded kernels .... though they were all booting for me even without the change

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PostPosted: Wed 16 Jul 2014, 09:57    Post_subject: ID string and PDEV1  

shinobar wrote:

vmlinuz need to be add ID string, otherwise PDEV1 is blank. See /etc/rc.d/PUPSTATE.
Code:
# echo -n 't140711144545ZZZZ5.8.3XXXXXXXXXX' >> vmlinuz

666philb wrote:
i've now changed the ID string on all the uploaded kernels .... though they were all booting for me even without the change

Yes, anyway it boots. But the PDEV1 gets blank if ID string is lacking.
Some scripts use PDEV1 value. For example, shstdownconfig sees PDEV1 to determine default pusave place. Saving the session back to the lve CD need PDEV1 value.

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PostPosted: Wed 16 Jul 2014, 12:38    Post_subject:  

Hi !

Umplayer Mediaplayer starts but does not play any multimedia files .

Any idea ?
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PostPosted: Wed 16 Jul 2014, 12:52    Post_subject:  

hi backi

i'm presuming you used a pet from somewhere ? it might need mplayer from the PPM
if that doesn't work, in quickpet there is smplayer which has a youtube browser included similar to umplayer

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PostPosted: Wed 16 Jul 2014, 13:18    Post_subject:  

Rfunning from a Slacko64 distro with QEMU V2 and @MikeB's "Launch" utility (see below). No JOY in getting to desktop. TahrPUP cannot find a suitable driver on its own.

In order to get to desktop, currently, we are required to enter "-vga std" on the Extra Parameters line of the Launcher to force the virtual machine into VESA mode.

This PUP runs faster in a KVMguest than in native mode.
Boot process fails to bring up pristine desktop1.jpg
 Description   Boot process stops here WITHOUT video parm. And cannot get xorgwizard to setup to allow desktop.
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Boot process fails to bring up pristine desktop1.jpg

KVM Launch TahrPUP by Shinobar.jpg
 Description   No joy unless the "Extra Parameters" line has "-vga std"
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KVM Launch TahrPUP by Shinobar.jpg


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PostPosted: Wed 16 Jul 2014, 14:46    Post_subject:  

HI !
How to show temperature ?
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PostPosted: Wed 16 Jul 2014, 15:01    Post_subject:  

This pup seems to take a little longer to load (iso burned to cd). A minor inconvenience but I thought it worth the mention.

Best,

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PostPosted: Wed 16 Jul 2014, 15:14    Post_subject:  

Hi, 666philb.

In your version 5.8.3, I seem to be getting a screen refresh (sort of a very
rapid white line "scan" across the screen) every 20 seconds or so. That
didn't happen in the previous versions. Have you changed the Xorg version
or the default nvidia driver in this version?

Otherwise, all good.

BFN.

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PostPosted: Wed 16 Jul 2014, 15:15    Post_subject:  

backi wrote:
HI !
How to show temperature ?


there's a link in quickpet to this
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=74702

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