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Tm_mT

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PostPosted: Sun 03 Aug 2014, 09:24    Post_subject:  

Thanks for those instructions. Indeed doesn't seem very difficult.
That said, I already installed TahrPup and I am also pleased
with that one.
My post was just to let you know that why I decided to try another puppy.
I am sure lots of folks will just use it once, have issues and
never report what their issue was.

e.g. I have tried more Puppies but didn't bother to investigate or report for:
Fatdog - my wired internet stopped working after a few minutes
Slacko - worked very nicely but I need to install Mono and Mono-dev and the slackware repo didn't have that.

Then I tried DebianDog and it worked like a charm, installed Mono + -dev and only the kernel part was preventing me from a frugal install.

After that I tried TahrPup and it basically works for me so I think I will use that Puppy for a while.

Installing a new Puppy is so easy and fun, that is why installing another one if there is even a minor issue is so tempting. Certainly because I haven't invested
a lot of time tweaking any of them to my liking.

Installing and keep using it are two different things though.
I have no idea how stable TahrPup is - will I run into dependency issues - how well is it supported etc etc. No way to tell if that will be my next distro for a longer period.
Usually I change from Puppy to a major distro after a couple of weeks of pleasant use. I love Puppy but until now I always ran into limitations (usually not being able to install
a certain software package) after a while.

Having the Debian (or Ubuntu) repository available is a major advantage of DebianDog and TahrPuppy. As I already mentioned
I will certainly keep an eye on DebianDog and report back if I have tried it and then I will share my experiences installing the SMP kernel Smile
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PostPosted: Sun 03 Aug 2014, 10:07    Post_subject:  

wrote:
Having the Debian (or Ubuntu) repository available is a major advantage of DebianDog and TahrPuppy.

Thanks for testing and writing here, Tm_mT.
Puppy is great distro and I also use KDPup often.

Just keep in mind DebianDog is not Puppy. It is Debian-Wheezy Live CD with added extra functions similar to Puppy. You can make Full install and get Debian Wheezy with Jwm or OpenBox desktop that can be changed in no time to standard Gnome or KDE or upgarded to Jessie or SID.

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PostPosted: Sun 03 Aug 2014, 10:31    Post_subject:  

Edit: Does not work anymore. Here is new workaround:
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=95202

For anyone using Skype 2.1 and Skype 2.2:
Starting skype with this script works for me every time to login.
Name it start-skype for example:
Code:
#!/bin/bash

rm -f $HOME/.Skype/shared.lck
rm -f $HOME/.Skype/shared.xml
rm -fr $HOME/.Skype/shared_httpfe
rm -fr $HOME/.Skype/shared_dynco
skype

Move it in /opt/bin and type start-skype in terminal. Make sure to quit Skype before running start-skype again. Logout is not enough.

This doesn't work for Skype 4.2

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fredx181

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PostPosted: Sun 03 Aug 2014, 13:27    Post_subject:  

MrAccident wrote:
I don't want the browser to be in Hebrew; I just want it to be able to save files into folders with the name in Hebrew. It always worked with the English version.


Sorry, I misunderstood, what is it that you need, change system locale to Hebrew then?
I experimented with that and got result showing on picture below (not perfect because it's mixed english/hebrew)

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MrAccident

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PostPosted: Sun 03 Aug 2014, 14:53    Post_subject:  

I didn't find a way to make Skype log-in automatically when I start it; Is this option gone?
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MrAccident

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PostPosted: Sun 03 Aug 2014, 15:16    Post_subject:  

Fred - that's not it either. It's very simple - to be able to download files to a folder that has a name in Hebrew. It's not really important; I can do without, for now. Right now DebianDog is on my dad's computer. He hardly needs anything; though Skype is one of the things. :-/
It should work with the English version of FireFox; I think it always worked.I just hope that isn't a symptom for more problems.

Is there a way to have conformation for file deletion in the file-manager?

Anyway - thank you all for the help so far!
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PostPosted: Mon 04 Aug 2014, 00:16    Post_subject:  

MrAccident wrote:
I didn't find a way to make Skype log-in automatically when I start it; Is this option gone?

Tested on my laptop with Skype 4.3.0.37 and this optional checkbox is on the bottom right login window (where you type username and password).
Just for information you need to install pulseausio and type pulseaudio --start in terminal (there will be message you should not run it as root but it works anyway). After that run Skype and you should have audio and internal microphone working. Works also for user account puppy.
Haven't tested the camera with external microphone. I guess some settings will be needed in pulseaudio about the microphone in such case.
I can't find what prevents this latest skype work on my other hardware yet.

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PostPosted: Tue 05 Aug 2014, 11:40    Post_subject:  

Edit: Does not work anymore. Here is new workaround:
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=95202

How to login with Skype 4.0.0.8 downloaded from here:
http://launchpadlibrarian.net/111495501/skype_4.0.0.8-0lucid1_i386.deb
You will need also Skype 2.2 binary in case you need to create new account. More information here:
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=792829#792829

Toni

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PostPosted: Tue 05 Aug 2014, 13:42    Post_subject:  

saintless wrote:

Just keep in mind DebianDog is not Puppy. It is Debian-Wheezy Live CD with added extra functions similar to Puppy. You can make Full install and get Debian Wheezy with Jwm or OpenBox desktop that can be changed in no time to standard Gnome or KDE or upgarded to Jessie or SID.
Toni


Interesting - thanks for that info, I thought this was a "Woof-like" Puppy. Hmm.. I think am going to invest a bit more time in this one Smile
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PostPosted: Tue 05 Aug 2014, 14:50    Post_subject:  

Toni wrote:
How to login with Skype 4.0.0.8 downloaded from here:
http://launchpadlibrarian.net/111495501/skype_4.0.0.8-0lucid1_i386.deb
You will need also Skype 2.2 binary in case you need to create new account. More information here:
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=792829#792829

Toni

WOW, thanks, that is a workaround! Great find, Toni.

At first I tried with the 2.2.0.35-new sfs but somehow couldn't get it to work.
To summarize: (I did slightly different)
What I did to make it work was adding the old skype repo to sources.list:
Code:
echo "deb http://download.skype.com/linux/repos/debian/ stable non-free" >> /etc/apt/sources.list

Then:
Code:
apt-get update
apt-get install skype
skype

Now skype version 2.1 will start.
Enter username and password and check "login when skype starts" (or something like that).
It may take a while to start skype then.
- Close skype by "quit" from rightclicking on icon in systray.
- Start skype again to check if it logs in automatically.
- Close skype again by "quit" from rightclicking on icon in systray.

Now if you'd like to upgrade to version 4.2: to download and install along with dependencies:
Code:
wget http://download.skype.com/linux/skype-ubuntu-precise_4.2.0.11-1_i386.deb
dpkg -i skype-ubuntu-precise_4.2.0.11-1_i386.deb
apt-get -f install
skype

Now skype 4.2 should start without having to login.
Make sure not to log out (it won't reconnect then anymore)

Fred
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PostPosted: Tue 05 Aug 2014, 15:10    Post_subject:  

Hi, Fred Wink
Thanks for testing with 4.2.0.11. My post example is for Puppy linux users. I also test only with deb packages.
I'm almost ready with SFS that has Skype-4.0.0.8 + Skype-2.2.0.35 with menu entry and start and use instruction. Having Skype-2.2 binary included fixes logout mistake any time you need. It is mostly for my old hardware but i guess it will be useful for other DebianDog users.
I need to test it in OpenBox version and the sfs will be uploaded soon.
My laptop is dead. I couldn't start it today and I can't do more tests with Skype-4.3 but it worked long enough to help me find workaround for older skype.
Later we can make Skype-4.0.13 + 2.2 sfs for DebianDog.

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PostPosted: Tue 05 Aug 2014, 15:37    Post_subject:  

Toni wrote:
I'm almost ready with SFS that has Skype-4.0.0.8 + Skype-2.2.0.35 with menu entry and start and use instruction

That's nice! I was thinking already how possibly make .deb or sfs from it.
(Oh no, I forgot I'm having vacation Wink)

Btw, Your post about skype v2 is quoted on the Mepis forum:
http://forum.mepiscommunity.org/viewtopic.php?p=345840#p345840

Quote:
My laptop is dead

My condolences Crying or Very sad

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PostPosted: Tue 05 Aug 2014, 17:18    Post_subject:  

Edit: Does not work anymore. Here is new workaround:
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=95202

Uploaded 039-debiandog-skype4.0.0.8-Skype2.2.squashfs sfs with skype 4.0.0.8 and skype 2.2.0.35:

Edit: Use DebianDog-Squeeze version from here:
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=793019#793019
I made small modification to make it work in both Wheezy versions and Squeeze to save some space on the site.

Toni

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PostPosted: Wed 06 Aug 2014, 03:13    Post_subject:  

Edit: Does not work anymore. Here is new workaround:
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=95202

Uploaded 039-debiandog-skype4.2.0.13-Skype2.2.squashfs sfs with skype 4.2.0.13 and skype 2.2.0.35 (56Mb)...

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PostPosted: Wed 06 Aug 2014, 11:39    Post_subject:  

Quote:
Uploaded 039-debiandog-skype4.2.0.13-Skype2.2.squashfs sfs with skype 4.2.0.13 and skype 2.2.0.35 (56Mb):

Thanks again Toni, it's working well.
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