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saintless


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PostPosted: Tue 12 Aug 2014, 13:06    Post subject:  

Thank you, Tm_mT.
I need some time to make same setup as yours.
No need to experiment more removing copy2ram. I tested today with copy2ram and it works well for me. Something else makes the errors you get.

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PostPosted: Tue 12 Aug 2014, 15:31    Post subject:  

sure, no worries. The encryption is not necessary, it is only a nice to have so no rush.
If I can help with additional tests or uploading log files (isn't there anything in /var/log that can help you?) let me know.
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PostPosted: Tue 12 Aug 2014, 15:41    Post subject:  

fredx181 wrote:

And does it boot and run normally after, no problems?
And what happens when you enter password for encrypted save, no error message, nothing?
Fred


Hi Fred, sorry for not answering before. just noticed you also asked a question.
Debian dog hangs, so no entering of a password at all. To illustrate that - the num lock of my keyboard is on, but doesn't respond on trying to turn it off. Seems to me that is a sure sign of a classic ' hang' Wink
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PostPosted: Wed 13 Aug 2014, 04:59    Post subject:  

Hi, Tm_mT.
Tm_mT wrote:
(isn't there anything in /var/log that can help you?) let me know.

Unfortunately I see no information in /var/log related to the problem you have with encrypted save. Since the system freezes on entering password nothing in /var/log will be saved after reboot anyway.
The only line for non-encrypted unmount error message that can be useful is this one in /var/log/porteus-livedbg which I'm sure is the same (except UUID part) for you:
Code:
/mnt/sda2//changes.dat: LABEL="persistence" UUID="a306672d-86ae-4263-88e6-f538cd584e5d" TYPE="ext4"

LABEL="persistence" is the impotrtant information for us. You can also check the label by typing:
Code:
e2label /path-to/changes.dat


What ever I do I can't make encrypted save to freeze as it does for you. Tested with encrypted save created from live-boot-2x and from porteus boot on hdd sda2 (sda2 formatted ext4, ext3, ext2). Changing the size to 200Mb, 500Mb, 2Gb... It just works without issue for me with default 3.2 kernel and 3.14-pae:



I hope Fred will think of something more to test about encrypted save problem you have.

What I can suggest is confirmation you have the same md5sum for the files (the path is correct if you boot DebianDog on sda2):
Code:
root@debian:~# md5sum /live/image/live/vmlinuz6
6005a7715ab306aeb747d96b373ec5ad  /live/image/live/vmlinuz6
root@debian:~# md5sum /live/image/live/initrd63.xz
3ca3c3edf48c1ef18af5dac8168f833e  /live/image/live/initrd63.xz
root@debian:~# md5sum /live/image/live/026-kernel-3.14.0.bpo-pae.squashfs
d051f1f5090be35ec9d0fbcb42414dce  /live/image/live/026-kernel-3.14.0.bpo-pae.squashfs

And maybe testing to install firmware-linux-nonfree if something hardware specific is missing:
Code:
apt-get install firmware-linux-nonfree


Regarding non-encrypted changes.dat I can reproduce the same message on ext4 partition and changes.dat with label persistence:



The error message exists every time after reboot if changes.dat has label peristence (I guess it happened when you created 4Gb save file with live-boot-2x or 3x). I will change make-save GUI by default to keep empty space for label option for next iso version.
Label persistence for changes.dat file creates this problem for porteus-boot.
I think it is harmless message but to prevent it create new save file without label persistence (if you use live-boot-2x just make sure to choose blank field in Label box or use from porteus-boot the new fixed mk-save.gtkdlg for 20Gb limit save file from Fred).
I will make more tests about the encrypted save file problem you have but can't think what else to try yet. Unfortunately you are the first one reporting encrypted save test for the moment and it works fine on mine and Fred's setup and hardware.

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fredx181


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PostPosted: Wed 13 Aug 2014, 12:01    Post subject:  

Hi Tm_mT,

I also couldn't reproduce the 'freezing' when using encrypted savefile.
Tested also to label the encrypted savefile "persistence", works fine for me.

Maybe it's best to try again creating encrypted save when booted with porteus-boot.
As you have already "changes.dat" I'd name new encrypted save for example "changes-crypt.dat" and create it also on the root of the partition (/changes-crypt.dat).
Then add a new entry in your menu.lst like this:

Code:
title DebianDog Porteus in RAM Crypt changes=/changes-crypt.dat
 uuid afca251b-50da-4e0a-87e7-cabd2e8ee8ce
 kernel /live/vmlinuz6 noauto copy2ram from=/ changes=/changes-crypt.dat
 initrd /live/initrd63.xz


And see what happens when you boot with this.

Fred

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PostPosted: Wed 13 Aug 2014, 12:13    Post subject:  

Hi all,

Here's skype 4.3 portable, I tested on Jwm and openbox version.
It's sfs module and portable script in same folder.
In extracted folder run "skype43-portable" and module will be loaded and skype starts along with included pulseaudio.

https://googledrive.com/host/0ByBgCDlZZ8K5bUsxVnhCTkhoZDA/DebianDog/SFS/skype4.3-portable-sfs.tar.gz

See for more info in ReadMe in extracted folder.

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PostPosted: Wed 13 Aug 2014, 13:41    Post subject:  

saintless wrote:

The only line for non-encrypted unmount error message that can be useful is this one in /var/log/porteus-livedbg which I'm sure is the same (except UUID part) for you:
Code:
/mnt/sda2//changes.dat: LABEL="persistence" UUID="a306672d-86ae-4263-88e6-f538cd584e5d" TYPE="ext4"

LABEL="persistence" is the impotrtant information for us. You can also check the label by typing:
Code:
e2label /path-to/changes.dat



Indeed the same info in porteus-livedbg (only EXT-2 instead of EXT-4) and the label is persistence.

saintless wrote:

What I can suggest is confirmation you have the same md5sum for the files (the path is correct if you boot DebianDog on sda2):
Code:
root@debian:~# md5sum /live/image/live/vmlinuz6
6005a7715ab306aeb747d96b373ec5ad  /live/image/live/vmlinuz6
root@debian:~# md5sum /live/image/live/initrd63.xz
3ca3c3edf48c1ef18af5dac8168f833e  /live/image/live/initrd63.xz
root@debian:~# md5sum /live/image/live/026-kernel-3.14.0.bpo-pae.squashfs
d051f1f5090be35ec9d0fbcb42414dce  /live/image/live/026-kernel-3.14.0.bpo-pae.squashfs



Exactly the same for me.

saintless wrote:

And maybe testing to install firmware-linux-nonfree if something hardware specific is missing:
Code:
apt-get install firmware-linux-nonfree



results in
/boot/initrd.img-3.14-0.bpo.1-686-pae does not exist. Cannot update

and that is correct, I only have this in /boot/

config-3.14-0.bpo.1-686-pae
config-3.2.0-4-486
config-3.14-0.bpo.1-686-pae

saintless wrote:

Regarding non-encrypted changes.dat I can reproduce the same message on ext4 partition and changes.dat with label persistence:


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PostPosted: Wed 13 Aug 2014, 13:43    Post subject:  

fredx181 wrote:
Hi Tm_mT,

And see what happens when you boot with this.

Fred


OK Fred, will try it later (maybe tomorrow though, pretty busy this evening)
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PostPosted: Wed 13 Aug 2014, 13:57    Post subject:  

Tm_mT wrote:
results in
/boot/initrd.img-3.14-0.bpo.1-686-pae does not exist. Cannot update

But the install process is finished, right? This message at the end is from update-initramfs to rebuild initrd61.img for live-boot-3x. It will not work for you anyway because you use porteus-boot initrd63.xz
The important thing is to have firmware-linux-nonfree installed to see if this helps (I doubt it will but worth to try).
If it does not help remove it with:
Code:
apt-get purge firmware-linux-nonfree
apt-get autoremove


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PostPosted: Wed 13 Aug 2014, 14:36    Post subject:  

Hi Toni, Tm_mT,

Quote:
apt-get install firmware-linux-nonfree


Maybe this can help but the problem is that (re)booting with encrypted savefile doesn't work so how can you possibly test the result of installing firmware-linux-nonfree when (re)starting with working encrypted savefile is not possible (unless you make remaster first with it included).
But maybe I'm missing something.

Fred
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PostPosted: Wed 13 Aug 2014, 15:11    Post subject:  

Yes, Fred, you are right.
Even remastering or creating module from changes will not make difference. The modules loading is after the password prompt for encrypted save. Even rebuilding initrd61.img will not help because the changes must be imported in initrd63.xz for porteus-boot.
I don't know what more can be tested.

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dancytron

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PostPosted: Wed 13 Aug 2014, 15:17    Post subject:  

fredx181 wrote:
Hi Toni, Tm_mT,

Quote:
apt-get install firmware-linux-nonfree


Maybe this can help but the problem is that (re)booting with encrypted savefile doesn't work so how can you possibly test the result of installing firmware-linux-nonfree when (re)starting with working encrypted savefile is not possible (unless you make remaster first with it included).
But maybe I'm missing something.

Fred


Can he try using apt2sfs to make a .squashfs file of firmware-linux-nonfree? Then of course move it to the /live folder and reboot.
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PostPosted: Wed 13 Aug 2014, 15:21    Post subject:  

Hi, Dan.
I don't think it will work. All modules inside /live will be loaded after the password prompt for encrypted save file, and the system freezes for Tm_mT at this password prompt.

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PostPosted: Wed 13 Aug 2014, 15:54    Post subject:  

Ok. Just an idea.
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PostPosted: Wed 13 Aug 2014, 16:13    Post subject:  

It depends how more testing Tm_mT is ready to take.
There is also encrypted save file option in live-boot-3x that might work or will make possible to test firmware-linux-nonfree package rebuilded in initrd61.img (easy to be done with simple instruction). If live-boot-3x encrypted save works for him I can try to add the needed files in porteus initrd63.img for testing from him. Then this process can be automated with a script in case it is needed another time for someone (automated-script because we can't upload nonfree package components).
But it really depends how much time has Tm_mT and is this problem important for him to be fixed.

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