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Re: PDF viewers

#341 Post by peebee »

simes wrote:In a spirit of helpfulness, I hope, can I report that the PDF viewers are not working in LXPupTahr 14.08. Evince reports that application type pdf is unsupported (!) and Zathura crashes when opening any pdf document. If I ought to be testing 14.08.1 instead now, please say and I'll happily install it.

[EDIT] Have also found that mtpaint does not start (as reported further up the chain), but I am not using Conky.
Hi Simes

Thanks for testing with Puppy Tahr.

In my testing on LxPupTahr, evince, zathura and mtpaint all run OK - the problem lies in the mime associations to associate a file with an application.

I don't know why LxPupTahr with evince and zathura behaves differently to LxPup (Slacko flavour) with epdfviewer (although I have noticed that a utility called update-mime-database is present on LxPup and missing on LxPupTahr).

The associations you require can be established in pcmanfm by right clicking on a pdf file and choosing open-with and then selecting evince and ticking use this application as default.

Or you can open the files via rox-filer.....

Similarly for various graphic file types and mtpaint. The problem here is that the mtpaint .desktop file has a different name in TahrPuppy from Slacko.

There are 2 .desktop files for zathura and the one in the menu calls zathura_gui.desktop which opens a file chooser rather than the pdf directly. If you want to have zathura open as default you will need to edit the zathura.desktop file so that a menu entry appears which can be chosen - basically copy the missing lines from the zakura_gui.desktop.

I'll see if I can implement a fix for the next version.

Hope this helps
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lxpup-thar

#342 Post by zagreb999 »

To Mr. Peebee!

Thanks very much!

Your Lxpup-thar is very, very good!
I made remaster with XFCE.
Great!
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But: Smtube and Smplayer can not
open Youtube....
Smtube can not record...

Regards.

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LxPup fix pet

#343 Post by peebee »

Here is a small fix pet to tackle the problems simes has identified with mime associations.

Do not load this pet if you have already made changes to mime associations - either by using Open-With or by loading the Right-Clicks option.

The pet adds the associations for evince and zathura to open pdf files and makes evince the default application.

It also renames the mtpaint-image-editor.desktop file to make it consistent with Slacko.

Whilst testing I've also found that LxTerminal does not work on LxPupTahr14.08 so further fix to come.

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Re: LxPup fix pet

#344 Post by simes »

peebee wrote:Here is a small fix pet to tackle the problems simes has identified with mime associations.

Do not load this pet if you have already made changes to mime associations - either by using Open-With or by loading the Right-Clicks option.

The pet adds the associations for evince and zathura to open pdf files and makes evince the default application.

It also renames the mtpaint-image-editor.desktop file to make it consistent with Slacko.

Whilst testing I've also found that LxTerminal does not work on LxPupTahr14.08 so further fix to come.

Cheers
peebee
Hello peebee,
Thank you for responding to my observations. I was about to try making the changes to mime associations that you described, but then saw your PET above, so I have installed that instead. However - and I fear I'm not helping you as much as I would like to, here - the PET did not change any behaviour on my system. MTPaint won't,start, Evince won't open any PDF and Zathura crashes when the 'Open PDF' button is clicked. Also - and not a problem - LX Terminal DOES work for me, both before and after installing the PET. It's clear that my installation and yours are behaving differently. Mine is a frugal install using the new save-to-folder option. Would you like me to try a different install?

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Re: LxPup fix pet

#345 Post by peebee »

simes wrote:..... It's clear that my installation and yours are behaving differently. Mine is a frugal install using the new save-to-folder option. Would you like me to try a different install?
I'm testing on LxPupTahr14.08.01 manual frugal install.....but in a difference to you either without a savefile or with a traditional 2fs savefile (its an ntfs formatted partition). I will test again with the new savefolder.

Could you download 14.08.01 and verify the md5 is correct and test on that please?

evince, zathura and mtpaint are all running correctly in my tests....

Can you run them all in a terminal and pm me any diagnostic messages produced?

Thanks
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Re: LxPup fix pet

#346 Post by simes »

peebee wrote: Could you download 14.08.01 and verify the md5 is correct and test on that please?

evince, zathura and mtpaint are all running correctly in my tests....

Can you run them all in a terminal and pm me any diagnostic messages produced?

Thanks
Hello again
Done! I have downloaded 14.08.01 and verified the md5, and saved the new install to a folder. Now my system behaves like yours; evince, zathura and mtpaint all run correctly, LXTerminal does not start. Also (very minor point) the Simple Network Setup tool fails to load my RT61 network card driver on second and subsequent boots but Network Wizard does it correctly. (SNS works fine on other puppies.) By the way I did not install the 'mime settings' PET on 14.08.01 - no need, it seems. I have not sent a PM - no diagnostic messages.

I like these LXpups very much, many thanks.

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Re: LxPup fix pet

#347 Post by peebee »

simes wrote:Hello again
Done! I have downloaded 14.08.01 and verified the md5, and saved the new install to a folder. Now my system behaves like yours; evince, zathura and mtpaint all run correctly, LXTerminal does not start. Also (very minor point) the Simple Network Setup tool fails to load my RT61 network card driver on second and subsequent boots but Network Wizard does it correctly. (SNS works fine on other puppies.) By the way I did not install the 'mime settings' PET on 14.08.01 - no need, it seems. I have not sent a PM - no diagnostic messages.

I like these LXpups very much, many thanks.
Great! Just what I was hoping to hear. The fix pet does do a few useful things - it makes pdf files clickable to open them, and it makes urxvt the terminal program in pcmanfm avoiding lxterminal and it makes mtpaint compatible with the right-clicks option add-on.

So all useful results which will appear in 14.08.02 edition.....where lxterminal will work!

Cheers & thanks
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Add a different desktop environment to LxPup

#348 Post by peebee »

ONLY APPLY TO LxPup14.08 Slacko flavour or later

Download and install the sfs for the Desktop Environment from:
http://lx-pup.weebly.com/desktop-environments.html

then install the switch pet below (the jwm switch of course needs no sfs)

To revert back to LXDE just uninstall the switch pet.

The "plan" is to include the switch pets is the next iso with a Desktop Environment switcher in the options.

The difficult part of switching DE is to get the menu right - particularly to make sure that only the desktop appearance menu items appropriate to the DE appear - I haven't done that for this exercise other than to a limited extent so the menus will have some inappropriate items.

Note that Compiz requires a reboot after installation for the Beryl window manager to work properly.

and LxQt needs a reboot after installation of the Qt4 sfs and before the switch pet is installed otherwise Qt doesn't work and the switch won't work.

Thanks go to Jejy69 for some of the sfs's.

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LxPupTahr 14.09

#349 Post by peebee »

LxPupTahr 14.09 is now available from SF.net.
md5 from SF.net - click on little "i"

Based on TahrPup 5.8.3.rc1 from 666philb with kernel 3.14.11 including the ydrv update from shinobar.

PcManFM (and libfm) is updated to version 1.2.2

OpenSSL is updated to version 1.0.1i

Broadcom STA wifi driver is added.

MtPaint is also added so that graphic right-clicks work (and there seems to be problems with AZPainter).

The browser included in TahrPup is PaleMoon but Chromium37 can be added.

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Re: LxPupTahr 14.09

#350 Post by Marv »

peebee wrote:LxPupTahr 14.09 is now available from SF.net.
Downloaded and running well on my Fujitsu S6230 Pentium M ipw2200 laptop. The only things I had to do to get running were to swap in the 3.15.4 kernel to allow forcepae as a kernel parameter for the Pentium M and add acpid to the Startup Apps using the control panel to get lidsuspend working. Sound, video, connection all good. My personal theme and tray prefs, external Opera .desktop, Gvolwheel, PWF 2.9 using a static IP tweaks and voila!

Edit: Couple of days steady use now. Vattery added, printing set up, not much else changed. Seems even more robust than the Slacko based 14.07 if that's possible. Miss the Slacko repos a bit but all in all this seems 'better' to me.
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Slacko flavours of LxPup14.09

#351 Post by peebee »

Slacko flavours of LxPup14.09 are now available from:

https://sourceforge.net/projects/lxpup/ ... xPup14.09/

Click on the little "i" to see the md5 checksum

Pre-release versions

LxPup-14.09.00-s-nopae.iso - based on Slacko6-beta2 with kernel 3.4.94 (nonpae)

LxPup-14.09.00-s-pae.iso - again based on Slacko6-beta but with kernel 3.14.11 (pae)

New features ( compared to 14.08 ) =
- version 1.2.2 of pcmanfm
- new LXPup Desktop Environment Switcher (Menu: Desktop - Change appearance - Options - DE Switcher)
- OpenSSL version 1.0.1i
- Broadcom STA wifi driver included for both new Slacko versions

Slight warning - I'm not sure that the Slacko pae version with kernel 3.14.11 from TahrPup thanks to 666philb works 100% correctly on Intel graphics. On my laptop I have to press the screen brightness key to get a display. Works ok on my desktop with nvidia graphics though.

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Re: LxPupTahr 14.09

#352 Post by simes »

peebee wrote:LxPupTahr 14.09 is now available from SF.net.
Just to add that I have installed LxPupTahr-14.09 too. Very easy frugal install to folder and so far all seems rock solid. 'Quickpet tahr' is nice to see and it downloaded and installed the big LibreOffice SFS at the first attempt, very satisfactory. No glitches so far - what a great operating system.

I always install my Puppies by mounting the ISO (one click in Puppy, of course), copy the files from the ISO to a new folder, then run GRUB4DOS to find the new Puppy and make it bootable. Total time to install a brand new operating system from scratch, under 5 minutes. Even if there were no other clever features in Puppy, this would be a huge productivity improvement over Windows. I still find this mind-boggling after many years of using Puppy. Thanks everyone, especially peebee for the LxPup series.

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LxPup Tahr 14.09 - good impressions - will not start X in VM

#353 Post by Gooplusplus »

I had a very good first impression of Lx Pup Tahr 14.09. I especially like your choice of Pale Moon as default web browser for the distro.

In fact, I decided to also install Pale Moon 64-bit on my Windows machine as a replacement for Firefox (for various reasons, Chrome is still my preferred Windows browser.)

I noted that unlike many other Linux distros, several lesser (and conflicting) media plugins were replaced by the superior VLC web plugin for Pale Moon.

The browser worked great for on-the-fly media transcoding tested via VLC-enabled http://www.homenetvideo.com/demo/index- ... st%20Files (a free home network media server demo).

One negative note: LX Pup Tahr would not start X as a virtual machine in VMware's free Player.
This did not happen for any other recent Linux distro release including other Puppy distros.

Not working in VM prevented me from considering making a quick YouTube review of LX Pup Tahr.

I recently released two new 2014 4GB "Kudos" USB Multiboot Linux collections (32 bit and 64 bit). The first one includes the new LX Pup Tahr distro.

http://www.gooplusplus.com/multiboot-collections/

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I plan to also release an 850MB Kudos "mini" USB Multiboot collection soon that "features" Lx Pup Tahr.

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#354 Post by peebee »

@Marv, @Simes & @GooPlusPlus

Thank you all for your comments.

All the features you mention arise from the base TahrPup5.8.3-rc1 produced by 666philb so he deserves your thanks more than me..... QuickpetTahr, PaleMoon, VLC plugin...

@GooPlusPlus - if you get the chance can you see if your VMWare problem also applies to vanilla TahrPup5.8.3 ?

Thanks
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Downloading LxPupTahr now.
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#356 Post by Gooplusplus »

@peebee: unfortunately, TahrPup 5.8.3.rc1 failed starting X at the same point in the same way after creating and running a new VMware VM.

I also tried the suggested xwin jwm and xwin fvwm95 (and xwin lxde and xwin openbox) without success.

Whether it is relevant of not, my Lenovo i7 notebook with 8GB RAM has 1366x768 resolution with both Intel and Nvidia graphics.
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#357 Post by Gobbi »

On my PC with a Radeon HD 7870XT - LxPupTahr 14.09 didn't start X either . I tried to see if it works in Qemu but it fails too... :(

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#358 Post by peebee »

Gooplusplus wrote:@peebee: unfortunately, TahrPup 5.8.3.rc1 failed starting X at the same point in the same way after creating and running a new VMware VM.

I also tried the suggested xwin jwm and xwin fvwm95 (and xwin lxde and xwin openbox) without success.

Whether it is relevant of not, my Lenovo i7 notebook with 8GB RAM has 1366x768 resolution with both Intel and Nvidia graphics.
Thanks for testing - could you report the problem over on the TahrPup threadproviding as much diagnostic info as is possible - i.e. your hardware configuration, how Puppy is installed, the point in the boot sequence it fails and any error messages displayed.

One thing to try if it is booting but to a black desktop is to press whatever keys are needed on your laptop to increase screen brightness as I've had to do this with the k3.14.11 kernel on my HP laptop.

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#359 Post by 666philb »

Gooplusplus wrote:@peebee: unfortunately, TahrPup 5.8.3.rc1 failed starting X at the same point in the same way after creating and running a new VMware VM.

I also tried the suggested xwin jwm and xwin fvwm95 (and xwin lxde and xwin openbox) without success.

Whether it is relevant of not, my Lenovo i7 notebook with 8GB RAM has 1366x768 resolution with both Intel and Nvidia graphics.
hi Gooplusplus,

i just tried tahrpup in vmware player and as you say it doesn't boot to desktop.
at the prompt type xorgwizard and select the modesetting driver, the desktop should then fire up

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#360 Post by Gooplusplus »

@666philb: Thanks, xorgwizard followed by xwin did get me to the desktop.

I then had to change video resolution again in the initial desktop quick wizard to make it stick during the session.

I also had to run the Alsa Sound Wizard because there was no sound. Any PCM setting under 50% was silent.

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