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How to make a multi-session cd?
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freke

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PostPosted: Sat 07 Oct 2006, 02:58    Post subject:  

This is just to say thanks with your help and patience, I am now running puppy 2.1 on a recordable dvd and it is excellant, but I still need to get my printer working with memory measured in nanoseconds I do need a printer, if someone will handwalk me through the installation I will be ever so grateful.
"old age always comes at a bad time"

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freke

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PostPosted: Tue 21 Nov 2006, 10:21    Post subject: multi-session live-CD/DVD  

I have just loaded 2.12 on a DVD-R and a CD-R and the both work ok, but when I loaded it onto a CD-RW it stopped loading, this happened twice, as I said it works fine on the DVD-R, is there a reason for this or have I done something wrong?

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Flash
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PostPosted: Tue 21 Nov 2006, 10:30    Post subject:  

No, it's not you. Multisession is not as robust on CD as it is on DVD, and CD-RW is the most flakey of all. Be happy that it works for you on CD-R. Smile

For the record, Puppy has always worked for me on multisession DVD+RW and DVD-RW. I only tried it once on CD-RW and I don't remember that it worked.

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freke

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PostPosted: Wed 22 Nov 2006, 09:01    Post subject:  

Thanks your reply has given my confidence a boost, as a person who although I thoroughly enjoy it computing does not come naturally I find my way round by trial and error.
There are many problems to me and some of them seem to silly to ask about, for instance with the printing, if it had not been for the walking through that pakt did for me I would have given up on Linux.
Along with many others I think if the forum had section not only for beginners but for any thickos like myself that would explain in detail how to do simple jobs eg copying any files from one puppy to the next upgrade.
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Flash
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PostPosted: Wed 22 Nov 2006, 11:41    Post subject:  

Unfortunately for those of us who'd prefer a more sedate pace, Puppy is "rocketing ahead," as raffy put it here. Laughing
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TimH

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PostPosted: Wed 22 Nov 2006, 19:07    Post subject: Re: multi session dvd  

Flash wrote:

Here's a neat trick you can use if you have a DVD burner and a DVD+ or -RW:
Download the Puppy iso in Windows, if that's all you have. Use whatever burning program you have in Windows to burn a bootable DVD of the iso. Then boot the DVD+/-RW, mount the Windows partition where you put the Puppy iso and use burniso2cd to burn it on the same DVD+/-RW. No need to blank the DVD first, just overburn it. I've done this several times, with both DVD+ and -RW. I believe there are technical reasons why +RW is better than -RW if you're going to do it, but both have worked for me. I've never tried multisession Puppy on CD-RW but I think you must erase it first.


How did you "in Windows to burn a bootable DVD of the iso"? - I've got Nero 6 and it says it cannot use the DVD to burn this type of image (iso).

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Tim
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Béèm


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PostPosted: Wed 22 Nov 2006, 19:32    Post subject:  

I use DVD Decrypter in Windows to burn a DVD-RW or CD-RW
(I don't use DVD-R nor CD-R)
No problems, always got a good burn.
See: http://fileforum.betanews.com/detail/DVD_Decrypter/1011845169/1
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PostPosted: Wed 22 Nov 2006, 22:36    Post subject:  

TimH: due to the limitations of most Windows-based burning programs, you may have to do it in two steps. Most Windows-based burning programs will burn a bootable CD, so first burn a Puppy CD of the iso, then boot the Puppy CD, mount the Windows partition where the iso resides and use burniso2cd in Puppy to burn the DVD. A CD-RW works fine, if you have one. Good luck. Laughing
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freke

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PostPosted: Thu 23 Nov 2006, 03:45    Post subject:  

I downloaded BURNCDCC in windows from TeraByte unlimited and copied puppy linux to a DVD-R without a problem.

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PostPosted: Sun 01 Jul 2007, 02:00    Post subject: Burn multisession
Subject description: Cant burn multisession CD-R 2.16
 

Hi to all, Im new to Linux and Puppy and Im trying to burn a multisession 2.16. I boot up from a Puppy CD and go into "burniso2cd" put the CD-R in the DVD buner (Panasonic 112d ) as I proceed it askes me to "choose the iso file". I dont know what to do at that point so I dont choose anything and just follow the rest of the steps. It looks like everything is going ok but at the end it says burn could not be varified,you should start over?. I tried it a few times and the same thing happens. Is their something I should be choosing when asked about the iso. I thought that would automatically come from the Puppy 2.16 I was copying from? Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks Ed
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Inuyasha


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PostPosted: Sat 28 Jul 2007, 17:54    Post subject:  

I don't mean to bring a thread back from the dead, but I like this thread.

A couple of questions:

1. Why is a DVD better than a CD-RW?
2. Why is it fool-proof to burn the ISO in Puppy Linux than inside Windows?

Does it have something to do with assembly language, the way the laser touches the disk, and so forth? Something about sectors and tracks? I'm curious as to the mechanical, electrical, and programmatic differences.
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PostPosted: Sun 29 Jul 2007, 00:47    Post subject:  

Inuyasha wrote:
I don't mean to bring a thread back from the dead, but I like this thread.

A couple of questions:

1. Why is a DVD better than a CD-RW?

First, multisession seems to work much more reliably on a DVD, possibly because the DVD specification included multisession capability from the start. Second, a DVD holds more data, is physically more rugged (the data layer is sandwitched in the middle instead of being on the back of the disk, protected only by a thin layer of lacquer) and the data transfer rate is probably a bit higher, than a CD.

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2. Why is it fool-proof to burn the ISO in Puppy Linux than inside Windows?

I don't know. Maybe the Windows program doesn't do it very well because Puppy is one of the few uses for multisession DVD. Until Puppy came along, the multisession specification was a solution looking for a problem. Nobody knew what to do with it.
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