Alternative JWM desktop manager

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mavrothal · #21 Post by **mavrothal** » Sat 30 Aug 2014, 11:26

zigbert wrote:See main post for updated versions of these alternative desktop configuration tools.

This is OK. No lag what so ever.

It actually also corrects some desktop icon degradation reported for slacko 6 in some cases!

zigbert · #22 Post by **zigbert** » Sat 30 Aug 2014, 18:32

mavrothal wrote:This is OK. No lag what so ever.

Good news.
I made an install on a 10" netbook today - seems stable.

zigbert · #23 Post by **zigbert** » Sat 30 Aug 2014, 18:35

If you want to install it on your Slacko 5.7, you need the attached switch2. place it in /usr/bin/switch2

zigbert · #24 Post by **zigbert** » Tue 02 Sep 2014, 11:04

Update - see main post

- Bookmark ANY file from ROX right-click menu.
- pTheme temporary dir is not longer hardcoded to /tmp.
- pTheme_roxpin has got a button that points to eventmanager (drive-icons)
- pWidgets is getting nicer. Most widgets are now revisited.

ASRI Ã©ducation · #25 Post by **ASRI Ã©ducation** » Tue 09 Sep 2014, 16:57

I'm surprised not to see more user reviews.
The creation of Zigbert is full of interesting news.
I encourage users to test, criticize, suggest improvements.
Regards,

zigbert · #26 Post by **zigbert** » Thu 11 Sep 2014, 16:11

ASRI éducation wrote:I'm surprised not to see more user reviews.
The creation of Zigbert is full of interesting news.
I encourage users to test, criticize, suggest improvements.
Regards,

It would be very helpful with more feedback, both positive and negative.

The code is now uploaded to Woof-CE, so hopefully, we'll see an iso with these new desktop tools builtin.

MochiMoppel · #27 Post by **MochiMoppel** » Fri 12 Sep 2014, 06:25

zigbert wrote:It would be very helpful with more feedback, both positive and negative.

Maybe I didn't understand the concept completely and I could only test in Precise 5.6 and Slacko5.6, but what it did is that it destroyed my desktop settings thoroughly. All my shortcuts., menus, tray customization are gone. I now have an (almost empty) pinboard and hard to read fonts. In Precise I was left without a functioning main menu, in Slacko at least Alt+F1 still works.

I think this application can be useful for a pristine system as a starting point for customizations, but it never ever should overwrite existing personal settings. Uninstalling the PET didn't bring back my previous settings.

Maybe the way to improve is:
1) Check if jwmrc-personal jwmrc-theme etc. are still in their original state. If not, don't touch them
2) Make backup copies of the files your PET overwrites.
3) After installation make no changes at all. Like the old desktop manager let the user decide if and what to change

zigbert · #28 Post by **zigbert** » Fri 12 Sep 2014, 11:23

MochiMoppel
From the main post

Please test on Slacko 6 - it won't work on older Puppies.

MochiMoppel · #29 Post by **MochiMoppel** » Fri 12 Sep 2014, 11:40

zigbert wrote:Please test on Slacko 6 - it won't work on older Puppies.

Yes, I'm aware of your main post. That's why I mentioned my test environment. I understand that some features don't work in older Puppies, but my concern was more about the concept, not single features, i.e. the potential damage for an existing installation. Does this mean that the PET does not overwrite JWM's personal setting files in Slacko 6 during installation?

zigbert · #30 Post by **zigbert** » Fri 12 Sep 2014, 16:18

Oh yeah, it overwrites existing jwm settings. Most important - the /root/.jwmrc.

Yes, there is a potential for damage, and the jwm_config pack could be extended with a roll-back-feature, but;
- As long as you run Slacko 6, you already run an unstable release, that is meant for testing in the beginning.
- If these packages aren't adopted by the iso-builders, there is a reason for making them ready for post-installation. At this stage, testing (and further evolving) is the main focus.

Sigmund

ASRI Ã©ducation · #31 Post by **ASRI Ã©ducation** » Fri 12 Sep 2014, 17:43

zigbert wrote: If these packages aren't adopted by the iso-builders, there is a reason for making them ready for post-installation. At this stage, testing (and further evolving) is the main focus.

Of course.

mavrothal · #32 Post by **mavrothal** » Fri 19 Sep 2014, 07:32

Tried the latest on Tahr RC and is almost OK.
One thing wrong is that "activate menu by mouse click" does not show the main menu but the last 2 lines (Leave and Help).

Another thing that may be handy is to modify the install script to save the current pinboard so the user may reinstate it without any hassle (Micko's original was doing this).
In Tahr for example you have quickpet that is not "puppy standard".

zigbert · #33 Post by **zigbert** » Fri 19 Sep 2014, 21:10

mavrothal wrote:Tried the latest on Tahr RC and is almost OK.
One thing wrong is that "activate menu by mouse click" does not show the main menu but the last 2 lines (Leave and Help).

Can not see this behavior in Slacko, maybe Tahr specific (sound strange). I am downloading TahrPup...

mavrothal wrote:Another thing that may be handy is to modify the install script to save the current pinboard so the user may reinstate it without any hassle (Micko's original was doing this).
In Tahr for example you have quickpet that is not "puppy standard".

Shouldn't be hard to add

zigbert · #34 Post by **zigbert** » Fri 19 Sep 2014, 21:53

TahrPup is using an older xdg generator.

TahrPup-5.8.3.rc1

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# grep xdg_puppy /root/.packages/woof-installed-packages
xdg_puppy-0.7.6-15-binaries_only-p4|xdg_puppy|0.7.6-15-binaries_only-p4||BuildingBlock|328K||xdg_puppy-0.7.6-15-binaries_only-p4.pet||essential XDG utilities developed by rarsa, binary executables only, /etc/xdg and /usr/share/desktop-directories moved to Woof|puppy|4||

Slacko-5.7.0

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# grep xdg_puppy /root//.packages/woof-installed-packages
xdg_puppy_jwm-0.7.6-16-i486|xdg_puppy_jwm|0.7.6-16-i486||BuildingBlock|24K||xdg_puppy_jwm-0.7.6-16-i486.pet||essential XDG utilities developed by rarsa, binary executables only, /etc/xdg and /usr/share/desktop-directories moved to Woof|puppy|4||

This is the reason for TahrPup to fail setting the height of the menuitems using /usr/sbin/menumanager or /usr/local/jwm_config/menu

zigbert · #35 Post by **zigbert** » Sat 20 Sep 2014, 06:19

I have updated the packages in the main post. This is only minor updates, but includes as mavrothal suggested, a backup solution for puppypin.

Sigmund

ASRI Ã©ducation · #36 Post by **ASRI Ã©ducation** » Sat 20 Sep 2014, 12:19

zigbert wrote:TahrPup is using an older xdg generator.
...
This is the reason for TahrPup to fail setting the height of the menuitems using /usr/sbin/menumanager or /usr/local/jwm_config/menu

Same older version with my precise-ce
I will try to install a newer version http://distro.ibiblio.org/puppylinux/pe ... 6-i486.pet

zigbert · #37 Post by **zigbert** » Sat 20 Sep 2014, 13:40

ASRI éducation wrote:
zigbert wrote:TahrPup is using an older xdg generator.
...
This is the reason for TahrPup to fail setting the height of the menuitems using /usr/sbin/menumanager or /usr/local/jwm_config/menu
Same older version with my precise-ce
I will try to install a newer version http://distro.ibiblio.org/puppylinux/pe ... 6-i486.pet

Please let us know how it works...

Thank you
Sigmund

ASRI Ã©ducation · #38 Post by **ASRI Ã©ducation** » Sat 20 Sep 2014, 16:30

zigbert wrote:Please let us know how it works...

OK.

zigbert · #39 Post by **zigbert** » Fri 24 Oct 2014, 16:33

I have been without internet connection for a little week now (still no go). It has given me time to continue with more desktop enhancements

More to come...

ASRI Ã©ducation · #40 Post by **ASRI Ã©ducation** » Fri 24 Oct 2014, 16:52

zigbert wrote:I have been without internet connection for a little week now (still no go). It has given me time to continue with more desktop enhancements
More to come...

Hello Sigmund.
I'm impatient, but I do not want to put pressure (this is a free project).

Note: do you have a solution/suggestion for 'older xdg generator'?

Regards

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