Use old Skype version after 01.08.2014

[Goaul]

When I install sfs for my puppy (from greengeek) post, the 4.3 skype has no "tiny checkbox visble at bottom of login screen", so i just login and see all me contacts, but after 30secs it closes and starts 4.2 but I it asks for my pass and there is that small checkbox, but loging from 4.2 not working.

Any Ideas?

[greengeek]

.., the 4.3 skype has no "tiny checkbox visble at bottom of login screen", so i just login and see all me contacts, but after 30secs it closes and starts 4.2 but I it asks for my pass and there is that small checkbox, but loging from 4.2 not working.

Hi Goaul, can you confirm that you ticked the "skypelogin" choice at the time you loaded the sfs? It asks you which one you want to run but it seems to default to "Skype" - it is important to change this to "skypelogin".

Also, the "log me in each time skype starts" checkbox doesnt appear straight away on the 4.3 login screen - it only appears AFTER you start to enter your login name. Can you check that screen again carefully?

I have just tried the sfs again and it still works for me so at least this method has not been blocked by Skype. At the moment I can't think of any other reason why the auto login checkbox is not showing for you.

If you still have no joy I would recommend to unload the sfs, remove /root/.Skype directory, reboot, and try all over again.

[Goaul]

So what I tried again, unloaded it in SFS-Load on the fly v1.9.7, restarted PC, then loaded your sfs file and choosed "skypelogin" and "run", after that showed up 4.3 login screen(like your first attached pic), but when i click on skype name field there showed my skype name, but still no checkbox on the bottom. After 30secs it closed and showed Skype 4.2 screen.

Is this might be something todo with using Precise puppy 5.7.1 or computers small resolution window Asus Eee PC 701?

More ideas welcome

[greengeek]

Is this might be something todo with using Precise puppy 5.7.1 or computers small resolution window Asus Eee PC 701?

Yes this seems to indicate that my hybrid may not be suitable for use on Precise. I made the pet and sfs for use with Slacko 5.6 so maybe in Precise there is a different lib that affects display format.

Do you see the whole login window on the eee701? If not does it let you scroll all the way down to see the bottom edge of the window?

EDIT : - If you are running a savefile don't forget to remove the hidden directory /root/.Skype in case it now contains incorrect data somehow.

EDIT 2 :Further testing shows that the sfs does run ok on Precise, but refer to my post below regarding installing a missing lib.

[saintless]

I would try typing the username, then password, then 4 times press Tab key and then one time only press SpaceBar key. Then press Enter. This should check the box for autologin.

[Goaul]

Do you see the whole login window on the eee701? If not does it let you scroll all the way down to see the bottom edge of the window?

EDIT : - If you are running a savefile don't forget to remove the hidden directory /root/.Skype in case it now contains incorrect data somehow.

Yes, I see whole login window, even lifted it a bit up, to see if I'm really seeing whole window and yes still no checkbox there.

Even went to root/.skype and deleted whole content and tried same, nothing(if not counting the fact that I needed enter my skype name as it cleared by doing so).

+When I did how suggested saintless, when entered whole skype name and password->4x tabs +and space button-> pressing enter brings me back to first screen like I never enetered skype name.

Even tried to enter whole skype name and password->4x tabs +and space button->press login, logins into acc, but when 50secs ends and switches to v4.2 again asks for logins.

More suggestions?
For me it looks that that checkbox just not made there or libs in this case just fail to show it, but then is question why I see it for v4.2?

[saintless]

More suggestions?

Few more:

1. Attach screenshot so we can see this strange skype login window.
2. Type

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export QT_PLUGIN_PATH=/usr/share/skype/skypelibs/plugins
/usr/share/skype/skype43

in terminal and there will not be sign out in 30 sec. Continue using skype 4.3.0.37 this way with pulseaudio or apulse.
3. Find skype 4.3.0.37 binary that shows the checkbox for you and replace /usr/share/skype/skype43 with the working one.
4. Find skype 4.3.0.37 binary that shows the checkbox for you and use manually the workaround for skype 4.2 as it is explained in the first post.
5. Find skype 4.3.0.37 pet or sfs package that works for you and use it instead. Even if auto login check box is still missing you will not be sign out anymore.
6. Use your first posts in the forum to learn more about puppy linux instead trying to fix Skype workaround issue you get. This workaround can be closed any moment as the previous few. Helping Skype to improve the protection (because this is what we actually do by posting workarouds) is waste of time. Let them live and be happy losing more and more users.

[greengeek]

More suggestions?
For me it looks that that checkbox just not made there or libs in this case just fail to show it, but then is question why I see it for v4.2?

Hi Goaul, I have just booted into Precise 5.7.1 to try Skype and I found that I was able to see the signin checkbox, so I don't think the sfs is the problem.

I did not create any savefile - I just tried the sfs in 'live session'. At first it would not run because it was missing 'libpng14.so.14'
I found this lib available from stemsee's post here

After installing that pet and running skypelogin again I could see the signin checkbox as shown below.

Is it possible for you to temporarily hide your savefile and confirm that you get the same result as me when using the sfs and libpng pet in live session?
(If live session works for you too then that suggests that your savefile has something else installed that may be interfering)

Good luck!

[Goaul]

Hello, I just now reinstaled to Slacko Puppy 5.7 and loading skype theckbox there, so I guess something was messed up on old installation somewhere.

Thank you, all works fine now.

[pbreslin]

Hi I have just installed skypecomboslacko56_gg-1.4.sfs in Precise 5.7.1.
I already previously had Skype 4.2 on this computer. I uninstalled 4.2 but didn't delete the .skype folder. When I used Skype Login for the first time I didn't have to enter my username and password. I guess it pulled them from the .skype folder. After 30 seconds it stops 4.3 and starts 4.2 Sound is working perfectly for both speaker and mic.

I don't have video though with my very old Logitech webcam.

Thanks a lot everyone. Much appreciated.

[ahoogakev@gmail.com]

Hello my name is Kevin and I am not very good at Puppy Linux and I have GREAT trouble to understand these tech forums, becuase they are often over my head.

By some miracle I was able to follow the instruction on page 1 and get a working old Skype version 4.2 working on my computer, horray and thanks so much!

I did not quite succeed by doing it as suggested, though ;as I ended up installing version 4 .2 0. 11 as old Skype but your instructions recommended 4.2.0.13 .... I also ended up with 3 Skype files in that folder Bin something or maybe USR BIn , I forget. Since it works I am scared to delete any of them that part is ok. I am simply making the point that even though it now works it does not mean I understand it , as really I dont.

What I'd really like help with now, is doing whatever it is I am supposed to do in 20 to 25 days to prevent myself from going through all this again ( it took me over a week of reading and doing on your Forum with MANY failed attempts before this worked for me, my poor head is still spinning.).

On page 1 it says more less to quote "after 25-26 days setup again your account with Skype-4.3.0.37 and replace /root/.Skype folder with the new one. "

I do not understand what "setup your account with Skype 4.3.0.37 " means. I did find the hidden file / root / .Skype and I copied it into a desktop folder....could continous copying of that desktop folder every 20 days into /root/Skype keep me running? I know I have both versions of Skype installed becuase I can see them listed in the Puppy package manager.

When I click on Start / Internet / Skype the old 4.2 one starts up, and everything works ( including microphone which is what wont work on 4.3 for me).

I hope this makes sense and I hope someone can reply in REALLY simple terms to tell me how to keep Skype working for past 20 days. I need Skype for about 6 months as my brother has travelled to the USA for winter and I am in Canada and hope to talk without going bankrupt using traditional phones. Thanks so much for all help in advance! Kevin

[greengeek]

Hi Kevin, my understanding would be this:
- If your skype is working ok now, just keep using it as is, until it stops and tells you it cant log in.
- At that time run skype 4.3 again (just once) and sign in, making sure to tick the "log me in when skype starts" tickbox.
- Let it come online and show your contacts, then quit skype4.3 (Make sure you "Quit" - not "logout")
- Start skype 4.2 and it will carry on as normal using the login details already provided by the 4.3 login. (The 4.2 version won't ask you at this time to provide your username/password because it can see that the .skype folder contains the details it needs)

I don't think you should be too worried about what happens in 20-30 days - the Skype server will simply discard the current login validation details at that time and ask you to log in again.

If you wanted to you could do the "version 4.3 login" thing before the 30 day timeout and it should start the 30 day counter from zero again. (To be honest I am not sure if it counts 30 days, or uses "calender month" boundaries).

[ahoogakev@gmail.com]

Thanks for replying to my query Sir, I understand it all EXCEPT I dont know how I would start the old version of Skype? All I do now is click Start / Internet / and click on a Skype icon , and the old one comes up, how would I deliberately start the old one? Thanks You Kevin

[saintless]

Hi, Kevin.

I do not understand what "setup your account with Skype 4.3.0.37 " means. I did find the hidden file / root / .Skype and I copied it into a desktop folder....could continous copying of that desktop folder every 20 days into /root/Skype keep me running?

Unfortunately it will not work and I do not recommend to wait till starting old skype version tells you that you can't login. It is possible to bring some more troubles for you.
When you login with latest skype you get creditentals key valid for 30 days. When you try to login after creditentals key expires you will be surprised you can't login even with latest Skype anymore. Possible you will get message your account is blocked because skype suspects someone uses your account on different computer. Then you will have to write skype support and answer questions like:
When did you create your account - year and month?
Name 3 contacts from your account?
In one-two days you will be asked few more questions like those and if all looks correct your account will be unblocked. This procedure takes 3 days.

To make the things easier for you I suggest when you copy /root/.Skype to Desktop rename the one on the desktop adding the login with Skype 4.3.0.37 date (for example - .Skype-12.11.2014). And when 8-10.12.2014 comes delete /root/.Skype folder. Then start skype 4.3.0.37 to setup the account to autologin again and make new copy on Desktop adding the date.
If it is not clear enough I will try to explain it better.

To make sure you will start old skype version for example rename the executable file skype-old. Then you will have /usr/bin/skype (latest skype) and /usr/bin/skype-old (older skype). Typing in terminal skype-old will start the older version. Typing skype will start lates version.

Toni

[ahoogakev@gmail.com]

Thanks for your reply Mr Saintless. I understand most of what you told me. I am confused by the naming of Skpes in the Usr / Bin /Skypes folder. I messed it up when I attempted to do step #3 on the first page, I eventually found a 29MB file as #3 instruction tells me to, and I put it in that Usr / Bin folder...this 29MB file has an Icon that looks like a dog bone to me ( I am sorry I don't know how to tell them apart).I named it SkypeKev. I have another file named Skype in there,its Icon is like a computer screen.I have still another in there I 've named Skypeold and it also has an icon looking like a monitor . Although I named it only a few days ago I already dont recall what it was, becuase it is overkill for my poor brain following all these instructions and I did everything quite a few times until all at once it worked.
But I understand the basic idea, one of those 3 Skypes in Usr/ Bin is actually my 4 .2 one now, correct? And one of them is the 4.3 one, and one is ????? So can I figure out which is which right now just by typing skypeKev, Skype and Skypeold in my terminal and seeing what happens, or will this mess everything up? I am guessing what I labled Skypeold might be my 4.3 but I screw so many things up I dont trust myself an inch, and what the dog bone one is is beyond me, Thanks a lot Kevin PS to all you experts out there, I bet reading my messages gives you a great idea how totally confusing it is to be a non -linux guy try to do Linux, its a very scary proposition especially when you have a four second memory like me! I really appreciate you taking time to help me some days its fun but sometimes I am really frustrated.It took me a terribly long time to figure out what the terminal was for example and how to get to it.

[saintless]

Hi, Kevin.
You can find easy the version of each skype by typing the name and --version in terminal. It will not start skype but just shows output with version in terminal. Mine is 2.2.0.35 for example and I type skype --version in terminal and press Enter:

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skype --version
Skype 2.2.0.35
Copyright (c) 2004-2011, Skype Limited

Just check the exact names (are they skypeKev, Skype and Skypeold) and you can do the same by typing:

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skypeKev --version

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Skype --version

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Skypeold --version

If you need more help just ask here.

Edit: To make sure checking the right file it is better to use full path to skype. If all files are in /usr/bin then the commands are:

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/usr/bin/skypeKev --version

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/usr/bin/Skype --version

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/usr/bin/Skypeold --version

Toni

[ahoogakev@gmail.com]

Hi Saintless ; Thanks for your help; ok I tried typing in the Terminal Version command and when I type in /usr/bin/skype I get version 4 2 0 11 , and when I type in /usr/bin/skypeold I also get 4 2 0 11 ....when I type in /usr/bin/skypeKev it comes back saying cannot do it due to missing library libQTdbus.so.4. But the puppy package manager shows I have version 4 3 0 37 lucid installed and I know I had it installed becuase at one point it was starting up and I could not get the microphone to work.( Thats why I backed up to using the old version).
So now all I have to figure out, is how to start 4 3 0 37 version - any suggestions for finding and doing that? I am thinking its in my computer somewhere but I have no clue where.Thanks so much for all your kind help ! Kevin

[saintless]

But the puppy package manager shows I have version 4 3 0 37 lucid installed and I know I had it installed becuase at one point it was starting up and I could not get the microphone to work.( Thats why I backed up to using the old version).

Hi, Kevin.

Unfortunately I do not use Puppy much and I can't guide you how to fix this problem easy in Puppy. Maybe someone else will help you better soon.
From your post I guess you have Puppy Lucid installed. What I can suggest is:
1. Back up /root/.Skype again (I think you already have backup copy on Desktop).
2. Rename /usr/bin/skype to /usr/bin/skype42
3. Uninstall skype 4.3.0.37 from Puppy Package Manager and install it again from this pet (I guess if you skip uninstalling and install on top the new pet will work also):
http://smokey01.com/OscarTalks/skype-4.3.0.37-lucid.pet

Now typing skype in terminal should start skype-4.3.0.37.
Typing skype42 should start skype-4.2.0.11
If something goes wrong just delete /root/.Skype and copy there the backup copy from Desktop. Starting skype 4.2.0.11 should autologin fine till someone else gives better advice how to fix the problem with skype 4.3.0.37 in Puppy Lucid. Just give some more details like is it really Puppy Lucid and frugal or full install.

Toni

[ahoogakev@gmail.com]

Hi Saintless; Ok I will try your method, but I am going to wait 20-25 days until I do, so if I mess up I will at least gave enjoyed Skype for a month. Thanks so much for all your kind help! Kevin

[ahoogakev@gmail.com]

hi Saintless; Ok i will try your method, but I will wait 20-25 days before I do, so if I mess up I at least will have enjoyed Skype for a month. Thanks a lot, Kevin