tahrpup 6.0.5 CE

[666philb]

hi augras

it lives in /opt/deadbeef ...... it's the official deadbeef portable from the deadbeef site

i've just tried launching it through a terminal and you're right it doesn't load.. although it does through the menu and also clicking directly on the symlink in /usr/lib

we probably need a script in /usr/bin to change directory first and then launch deadbeef .... although the rightclick menu will need to link to it directly

i'll post a fix soon

[vicmz]

I'm running tahrpup 6.0 nopae into which I installed vicmz's Openboxplus 1.6.1 using lxpanel and his gtk_theme_collection-20130511, I installed these from "storage" on my hard drive, having previously downloaded them from vicmz post. I haven't run into any problems. YET. But then I haven't attempted to install GTK3 themes. And I only just noticed that openboxplus 1.6.1 has been dropped from the thread, being replaced by openboxplus 1.6.2. http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 730#703730. Posts near the end of the thread indicate that the "upgrade" included fixes to accommodate the needs of Wheezy 1.2.
New is not always better. Some new applications require gtk3. But Puppy will happily operate with both gtk3 and gtk2 installed.
Openboxplus is my favorite GUI for OS control. Might I suggest (a) re-instating 1.61 for other than Wheezy Pups, and (b) including advice on the first post of that thread that when used with tahrpup gtk3 themes should be avoided.

Actually, the theme I installed isn't supposed to be GTK3, and it requires only libpixmap and the clearlooks engine. The desktop pager in Lxpanel from the PPM (v0.6.1) was somewhat unstable. I tried Openboxplus 1.6.2 (lxpanel 0.5.x) and it was just as you and Augras said, only the RAM space indicator didn't work. Take A Shot! didn't work either, it needs ffmpeg.

I made openboxplus-tahrpup-1.1.pet:

https://yadi.sk/d/A3GGHVqUcd52V

***EDIT***
There has been some trouble downloading from Yandex. It seems to work now but just to be on the safe side, here are links to folders containing all files (main and additionals), choose the mirror that works for you:

Yandex.Disk | Copy.com | MeOwnPlanet.net

TAS is replaced with PupSnap, press CTRL+Shift+S to open the PupSnap GUI to take screenshots. (Note: there's a new version of TAS compatible with Tahrpup, I'll include it in a future version.) Also, the Tint2 panel is now at the bottom of the screen, along with Wbar at the top, and right-clicking the Tint2 clock launches Pprocess, just like left-clicking the CPU indicator in Lxpanel does. I couldn't get the Lxpanel RAM indicator to work, so I removed it from the panel. The wallpaper is a bit dark for the icon names in the Rox pinboard, the picture below shows how to change the colour of the text.

Remeber that Tahrpup doesn't allow installing the same pet twice. If you switch to Tint2 and want to switch back to Lxpanel, you must uninstall Lxpanel from the PPM first, then reinstall it. The panel switcher is at Menu > Setup > Change Openbox Panel.

[bark_bark_bark]

will new palemoon versions come through quickpet?

[Mike Walsh]

Thanks to the team for an amazing 'Puppy'; this one is awesome!

It's the third Puppy I've tried. I have a truly ancient Dell Inspiron laptop.....an original 1100, going on 12 years old now. Neither 'Precise' nor 'Slacko' would work on it; whether to do with the Intel 'Extreme' graphics chip, I can't say.....but the display was fragmented, and squashed up into the top left corner of the screen.

It used to run XP, but with its 'Netburst' Celeron CPU, it was like wading through molasses.....SLOOOOOW. 'Tahrpup' works perfectly; full screen, everything working as it should (even wireless!) AND network printing, too.

Excellent. 10/10 for this one!

Regards,

Mike.

[starhawk]

@Mike Walsh -- a NetBurst Celeron would be Pentium 4 based. Twelve years ago brings us to 2002, which means that you quite likely have a "Willamette-128"-core Celeron, based on the first generation of Pentium 4's.

The good news is that the Celerons skipped over Socket 423 (which had some nasty speed-limiting electrical characteristics) but the bad news is that the Willamette generation of Pentium 4's and Celerons is what caused Intel to re-release the Tualatin (last-generation) Pentium 3's... the performance was abysmal and the thermal issues (Pentium 4's were remarkably high-wattage) were incredible. Your Celeron CPU consumes in excess of 60W on its own... now consider that Socket 478 CPUs such as yours are less than an inch-and-a-half square! It has to vent almost all of that as heat, which makes for one seriously toasty little chip...

The problem with the NetBurst microarchitecture (as it's called), aside from pulling about as much juice as a particularly cheap and bright lightbulb, is that it was designed to be supremely awesome at multimedia processing (for examples, YouTube and video editing... more the second than the first though) because Intel honestly believed that was the future. LOL. It's not bad until you realize that this capability comes at the expense of severely if not completely handicapping the processor at doing absolutely anything and everything else. The term you are looking for here is 'misfeature', and for NetBurst, that one's a doozy. If you're using a P4 based system as an HTPC for streaming Netflix or what-have-you, great, it's in its element. Anything else? Get that heap a walker, it's going to need it.

For what most people do with a computer (email, a little Web stuff, and word processing / boring office-type stuff) you would actually be better off with a Tualatin P3 than any of the P4s. Heck, throw a Pentium M in there (based on the P3 for the very reasons discussed here) and you're even better off!

*ahem*

Probably, given the fat ball of yarn I just spun above, your graphics issues are caused by a combination of old laptop being old, heat, and possibly a driver issue. The best thing you could do with that laptop is to take it to a good tech shop (independent -- avoid Borked Buy and the like) and ask them to replace the "Thermal Interface Material" (TIM or thermal paste/goop/etc for short/slang). After a half-dozen years or so (likely less, on something putting out as much heat as what you've got) the TIM gets dry and crusty and stops doing its job -- which is to transmit heat from the CPU to the cooling system -- and in fact becomes something of a thermal insulator. I have a habit of referring to the silicone-based stuff often found in eg Dell P4 desktops as pigeon$#!* because of both its appearance and performance -- it's primer grey in color, thick sloppy paste-goop, and once it's baked solid, pulling the heatsink off usually yanks the proc right out with it! (Fortunately, this rarely damages either CPU or the socket... although what it does to my nerves ain't good...)

If you're experienced with laptop repairs, I can guide you through a TIM/goop replacement... it's not that hard in and of itself, but it requires a few special things. Laptops in general come apart like jigsaw puzzles (only, if you screw up you have to replace parts, lol) but a delicate hand, small screwdrivers, and some patience are all you really need if you know at least vaguely what you're doing.

[augras]

hi augras

it lives in /opt/deadbeef ...... it's the official deadbeef portable from the deadbeef site

i've just tried launching it through a terminal and you're right it doesn't load.. although it does through the menu and also clicking directly on the symlink in /usr/lib

we probably need a script in /usr/bin to change directory first and then launch deadbeef .... although the rightclick menu will need to link to it directly

i'll post a fix soon

Hi,
Of course you are right ! It works fine with the menu... but i always test in a terminal to see if everything is ok. Take your time for the bug fix : it's not very important.

I made openboxplus-tahrpup-1.1.pet:

https://yadi.sk/d/A3GGHVqUcd52V

Thanks vicmz for the .pet. But it seems that the download button does't work (i tried with palemoon and firefox) : maybe we need to be register ?

Philippe

[charlie6]

Hi,
given without warranty...this might be a workaround as the deps were not compiled on Tahr, but though seems to work (blanking + burning dvd work OK ...):

here tried to get pBurn 4.3.10 running on Tahr-6.0 through installing the missing deps as:

ffmpeg_2.4.2~trusty1.1_i386.deb from:
https://launchpad.net/~mc3man/+archive/ ... 1_i386.deb

dvdrw-tools-7.1-wheezy.pet and cdrtools-3.01a16-wheezy.pet from:
http://mirror.vcu.edu/pub/gnu_linux/pup ... es-wheezy/

gtkdialog-precise-0.8.4r514.pet from:
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... h&id=67970

cheers, charlie

[mikeslr]

Hii all,

vicmz:
"I made openboxplus-tahrpup-1.1.pet:

https://yadi.sk/d/A3GGHVqUcd52V."

Thank you, vicmz

Edit:
And then, before reading augras post, I tried to download it. first with opera, then chromium. just as unsuccessfully. Except that chromium reported that the file doesn't exist. Odd as the webpage indicated two downloads. Well, I'm sure vicmz will get to the bottom of this.

mikesLr

[kevjonesin]

Hi y'all, graphics are failing (fails with distorted out of scale overlapping double image of text; doesn't reach gui) when trying to boot tahrpup on a Compaq Presario F700 (F767CL) laptop w/ an onboard nvidia card (NVIDIA GeForce 7000M). Happens with both default and vesa. In the Parted Magic distro which comes bundled with a recent Hiren's boot CD I'm able to get to a gui by selecting a 'blacklist nouveau' option from Parted Magic's boot menu (default and vesa options had previously failed similarly to tahrpup). How to do such for live boot in tahrpup? I'm loving it (tahrpup) on an Aspire One netbook at present, would like to have some sort of frugal install booting on the Presario F700 as well.

[Ether]

.

Hello.

I have Tahrpup 6.0 CE frugal-installed and would like to be able to use Octave 3.8.1 from the Ubuntu repo:

http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/math/octave

... but I can't find it in the Tahrpup installer.

I'm sure the answer must be obvious, but I am new to Linux and still learning.

Thank you.

.

[satnosun]

Could anyone tell me how to install this puppy into my usb flash drive in win8? Step by step would be better, because I am a newbie.

[vicmz]

Hii all,

vicmz:
"I made openboxplus-tahrpup-1.1.pet:

https://yadi.sk/d/A3GGHVqUcd52V."

Thank you, vicmz

Edit:
And then, before reading augras post, I tried to download it. first with opera, then chromium. just as unsuccessfully. Except that chromium reported that the file doesn't exist. Odd as the webpage indicated two downloads.

I have no idea of what happened. I re-uploaded, the link is the same and it seems to work properly, the site even counts seven downloads so far (also over 100 visits though, maybe all the times people tried to download but couldn't?). Just to be on the safe side, I made backups. If you can't download from Yandex (

[bigpup]

Could anyone tell me how to install this puppy into my usb flash drive in win8? Step by step would be better, because I am a newbie.

I do not have Windows 8, but most people seem to have good luck installing to USB using the program Unetbootin.
http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/
Follow the directions for using an iso file you have already downloaded.
http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/#other

[mories]

When I want to use the user spot

Code: Select all

su spot

occurs the error
su: can't execute '/bin/sh': Permission denied

[666philb]

When I want to use the user spot

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su spot

occurs the error
su: can't execute '/bin/sh': Permission denied

su spot is working for me in both PAE and noPAE, do you get the same if you boot live?

[666philb]

I made openboxplus-tahrpup-1.1.pet:

https://yadi.sk/d/A3GGHVqUcd52V

hi vicmz,

can you confirm that the libraries in the .pet are versions from tahrpups PPM ..... if so i can add it to quickpet

thanks

[666philb]

For those who like the network_tray icon in lucid and precise pups, I have uploaded a new version that is fixed for the count-freeze problem reported in a Bugs thread. It should install in all recent puppies. I posted it here:
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 923#807923
Richard

thanks rerwin,

[666philb]

.

Hello.

I have Tahrpup 6.0 CE frugal-installed and would like to be able to use Octave 3.8.1 from the Ubuntu repo:

http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/math/octave

... but I can't find it in the Tahrpup installer.

I'm sure the answer must be obvious, but I am new to Linux and still learning.

Thank you.

.

hi Ether,

octave is in the PPM (puppy package manager) but first you'll need to update it...
1. open the PPM
2. click the 'configure' icon then click 'update now' button and update all the repos
3. once done click 'ok' and then restart the PPM
4 type octave into the find box ... you should see octave_3.8.1 (be sure to press the 'examine dependencies' when prompted)
you'll also need to install the latest bugfixes from quickpet for it to run

[vicmz]

I made openboxplus-tahrpup-1.1.pet:

https://yadi.sk/d/A3GGHVqUcd52V

hi vicmz,

can you confirm that the libraries in the .pet are versions from tahrpups PPM ..... if so i can add it to quickpet

thanks

I'm sorry, the libraries aren't from the PPM, I intend to update them. The next version might become QuickPet material.

[don570]

When I read that tahr pup doesn't have ffmpeg installed I realized that
my audio utilities might not work.

I made the change so that they will now work in tahr pup

http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=70759

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Also psnapshot will work in tahr pup . This version will set a default folder
for mtpaint screenshots by clicking the apply button.

http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=595913

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