Ways in which android is better than linux

[Anniekin]

* Speech to text input
* Predictive word suggestions
* One more thing I've been thinking of mentioning and I will edit this when I remember

[neerajkolte]

I think there was a puppy named "Obedient pup" that did use voice inputs, but it was way before I came to puppyland, so I am not sure.
I will search.

[Illutorium]

* Speech to text input
* Predictive word suggestions
* One more thing I've been thinking of mentioning and I will edit this when I remember

4th Reason: So can be replace at lite apk instead of Stock - Gallery or Music player for example. (S6500D or any device with Android)
5th Reason: Can be like as netbook with HDMI (or Mini-Jack TV)/USB OTG (2x USB + 1 Micro-USB)... (Galaxy Mini's,Galaxy Ace's can't be connect at HDMI/Mini-Jack TV)

[Terry H]

Printing/Scanning - I have Brother Laser MFC, on Android just downloaded and installed app, easiest setup I've ever done.

Bluetooth, works OOTB on all my Android devices which supports Bluetooth

[Robin2]

I thought Android was just another version of Linux ?

...R

[James C]

http://androidforums.com/

http://forums.androidcentral.com/

[James C]

I thought Android was just another version of Linux ?

...R

http://www.howtogeek.com/189036/android ... -that-mean/

There’s some debate over whether Android qualifies as a “Linux distribution.

[LazY Puppy]

Wouldn't it be nice, if people would just name things by their real meanings/names?

Linux = the Kernel
GNU/Linux = the OS incl. the Kernel

So Android is Linux but not GNU/Linux.

Hacker = I am and Richard Stallman is (as he has had stated)
Cracker = the Intruder (into a Network e.g.)

So Sony wasn't hacked, but cracked.

[Sylvander]

My wife has just discovered how to use her Samsung Galaxy Tab-2 running Android 4.2.2 to do web searches by speaking into the mic.
The particular app that does this, displays the text version of what she says, and then she taps an on-screen button to make it search.

NICE!

[rufwoof]

* Speech to text input
* Predictive word suggestions

Libre Writer Dragon speech to text extension likely isn't as good as on devices that more heavily depend upon such functionality.

Predictive word dictionary suggestions are editable in xvkbd

[neerajkolte]

Found "Obedient Pup thread"
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=88095

[quote]The main voice control features include:

1. The ability to search for and play anything on YouTube.
2. Send and receive voice mail using the Vocaroo service.
3. Use the new Google voice search with some spoken replies when Google provides them.
4. To open any website.
5. To open and navigate any hyperlinks on the BBC News site. (The ability to navigate webpage hyperlinks by voice is site dependant. It works on some but not others.)
6. Desktop and webpage navigation.
7. Integration with “single switch

[bark_bark_bark]

Gnu/Linux: Doesn't Run on Java; very secure

Android: Runs on Java; not at all secure

I can't see how Android is better.

[don570]

Both Acer and HP (Slate) tried to manufacture Android desktop machines
and they were a flop. The lack of multiple windows on the screen is a
big negative.

Apple may announce this year a new operating system based on iOS but
with multiple windows but this is just speculation on my part.

Steve Wozniak claimed in an interview that Apple would have interesting announcements this year.


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[rokytnji]

Easier to sell my used netbooks with Atom M270 and 1 gig of ram on

http://www.android-x86.org/

to the Hispanic buyer than

http://www.puppylinux.com/

Just the way it is on the border. It takes a Texan to know where I am coming from on this. I already sold one with a missing arrow right key even. They got a app for that.

My sales of my older model netbooks are paying for my newer

http://www.macomp.com/companiontouch.asp

netbooks with change left over for beer money..

Selling my BlackBerry Phone and my Iview Android Tablet also
on the radio.
Puppy or any other Gnu/Linux just does not sell out here.
Just the way it is.

It does not mean Android is better than.
But dumbed down and name recognition (Blackberry) is a hell of a selling point.
Especially to ignorant opinionated people handing you money for your wares.

Life is good.

[rokytnji]

Oh. When I sell this one.

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harry[~]$ inxi -zv7
System:    Host: darkstar.example.net Kernel: 3.10.17-smp i686 (32 bit gcc: 4.8.2)
           Desktop: Fluxbox 1.3.5 dm: gdm Distro: Slackware 14.1
Machine:   System: manda (portable) product: Intel powered classmate PC v: Gen 1.5L
           Mobo: N/A model: N/A
           Bios: American Megatrends v: CM94515A.86A.0024.2008.0715.1716 date: 07/15/2008
CPU:       Single core Intel Core N270 (-HT-) cache: 512 KB
           flags: (nx pae sse sse2 sse3 ssse3) bmips: 3192
           clock speeds: min/max: 800/1600 MHz 1: 1600 MHz 2: 800 MHz
Memory:    Using dmidecode: you must be root to run dmidecode
Graphics:  Card: Intel Mobile 945GSE Express Integrated Graphics Controller
           bus-ID: 00:02.0 chip-ID: 8086:27ae
           Display Server: X.Org 1.14.3 drivers: intel (unloaded: vesa)
           Resolution: 1024x600@53.3hz
           GLX Renderer: Mesa DRI Intel 945GME x86/MMX/SSE2
           GLX Version: 1.4 Mesa 9.1.7 Direct Rendering: Yes
Audio:     Card Intel NM10/ICH7 Family High Definition Audio Controller
           driver: snd_hda_intel bus-ID: 00:1b.0 chip-ID: 8086:27d8
           Sound: Advanced Linux Sound Architecture v: k3.10.17-smp
Network:   Card: Realtek RTL8101E/RTL8102E PCI Express Fast Ethernet controller
           driver: r8169 v: 2.3LK-NAPI port: ec00
           bus-ID: 01:00.0 chip-ID: 10ec:8136
           IF: eth1 state: down mac: <filter>
           WAN IP: <filter> IF: wlan1 ip: N/A ip-v6: N/A
Drives:    HDD Total Size: 63.6GB (56.4% used)
           ID-1: /dev/sda model: KingSpce_KSD size: 63.6GB serial: 984082600254
           Optical: No optical drives detected.
Partition: ID-1: / size: 15G used: 4.2G (29%) fs: xfs dev: /dev/sda1
           label: N/A uuid: f1514248-82a4-4793-b2e4-2d94b3e953d7
           ID-2: /home size: 44G used: 29G (65%) fs: xfs dev: /dev/sda3
           label: N/A uuid: 97334dd8-0850-42fb-bda2-4b80af118be1
           ID-3: swap-1 size: 1.05GB used: 0.00GB (0%) fs: swap dev: /dev/sda2
           label: N/A uuid: cbccfa7b-652e-44cd-b7e1-be88c61f634a
RAID:      System: supported: linear raid0 raid1 raid10 raid6 raid5 raid4 multipath
           No RAID devices: /proc/mdstat, md_mod kernel module present
           Unused Devices: none
Unmounted: No unmounted partitions detected
Sensors:   System Temperatures: cpu: 64.0C mobo: N/A
           Fan Speeds (in rpm): cpu: N/A
Info:      Processes: 136 Uptime: 2:19 Memory: 371.4/2005.8MB
           Init: SysVinit v: 2.88 runlevel: 4 default: 4 Gcc sys: 4.8.2
           Client: Shell (bash 4.2.532 running in xterm) inxi: 2.2.16 

which is the exact type of netbook I am selling. But it will have 1 gig of ram instead of 2 when I sell it. Plus The SSD will be swapped out with the touchscreen Pata 60 gig
drive.

Slackware will be gone and it will be a Android netbook also.
Because that is what sells fast.

[starhawk]

I have to say, roky, your Classmate sounds a heck of a lot like my ASUS 1000HE... how well is it built? (For the record, I've tortured this poor netbook half to bits, and it's taken the lickin's and kept on kickin'... good stuff indeed!)

[step]

Gnu/Linux: Doesn't Run on Java; very secure

Android: Runs on Java; not at all secure

I can't see how Android is better.

By no means I'm an Android expert. But according to Wikipedia Android doesn't run on Java. Android apps run in a virtual machine that isn't the Java VM. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dalvik_%28software%29

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Programs are commonly written in Java and compiled to bytecode for the Java virtual machine, which is then translated to Dalvik bytecode and stored in .dex (Dalvik EXecutable) and .odex (Optimized Dalvik EXecutable) files; related terms odex and de-odex are associated with respective bytecode conversions.

I take that to mean that Java is the source code, Java byte code is an intermediate format, and Dalvik is the final byte code format which runs on the Dalvik VM, which itself isn't the Java VM. I don't know how secure the Dalvik VM sandboxing really is, that's really the crucial point.

[starhawk]

AFAIK the Dalvik VM is a Java interpreter setup of some sort.

That said, I'm no programmer. Given that I'm also not a politician I will gladly defer final judgment to those who are programmers, rather than "sticking to my guns" on an issue where I have no business doing so,

I will say one thing, however, that I do know for sure. I've used Android, and I've used real Linux, and I've used Windows, and I've (grudgingly) used MacOS X. There is exactly one way, in my experience, that Android is superior to Puppy and that is adoption. (Sadly, more people use Android than Puppy.)

[step]

I agree, Android adoption is phenomenal on cell phones and color tablets.
Back to the Java thing, I have edited my previous post to quote Wikipedia's relevant point. Just for info.

[starhawk]

OK, so I guess the Android Layer Cake Of Horror is a little thicker than I realized...

I thought it was --

1 App in Java-dialect code
2 Java interpreter in VM
3 Modded Linux kernel

But I guess it's --

1 App in Java-dialect code
2 Java-to-Dalvik on-the-fly porting mechanism
3 Dalvik interpreter in VM
4 Modded Linux kernel

Jeez, no wonder Android needs so much freaking power, it's got two layers of on-the-fly code interpreting in between Angry Birds and actual execution mechanisms... mind you, /any/ on-the-fly code stuff is going to slow things down considerably (because it has to be compiled as it's about to run, which delays running) but to do it /twice/ is truly maddening (and not just to the user!) not to mention unnecessary.

Or, as Luke Skywalker would say, "What a piece of junk!"