Quirky April 7.0 - 7.0.3, 7.0.4, 7.0.4.1

[jamesbond]

It could be because I modify the "milestone override" in 'prefs.js', so that at first startup it will go to my home page, not the SM website.

Thanks Barry, I'll give it a try.

Nope, it still does the extension check (and still crashes). If it survives the extension check, it does go straight to the homepage, though, which is good, so thanks for that. Sorry for derailing this thread - let's go back on topic.

EDIT: Found a better way to do that. If you set

user_pref("startup.homepage_override_url","puppy homepage.html")
user_pref("startup.homepage_welcome_url","puppy home page.html")

you don't have to muck around with the revision numbers anymore, it always goes to puppy homepage. I'm going to do this for Fatdog.

[Philh]

To Rodney Byne

BBC World Service
http://bbcwssc.ic.llnwd.net/stream/bbcwssc_mp1_ws-eieuk

Ive never used Puptelly dont know of any direct streams.
Sky in browser using flash here.
http://news.sky.com/interactive/1345361 ... -news-live

Some Radio links http://www.listenlive.eu/index.html
TV links http://watch.squidtv.net/europe/uk.html
Both http://www.surfmusic.de/

[BarryK]

It could be because I modify the "milestone override" in 'prefs.js', so that at first startup it will go to my home page, not the SM website.

Thanks Barry, I'll give it a try.

Nope, it still does the extension check (and still crashes). If it survives the extension check, it does go straight to the homepage, though, which is good, so thanks for that. Sorry for derailing this thread - let's go back on topic.

I have just tested the upcoming 7.0.2 live-CD, started SM without network connection, no problem.

Add-Ons Manager, Extensions, only has Chatzilla and DOM Inspector.

[Blackfish]

I am currently running Quirky 6.4.1 on all my machines and USB sticks and I am perfectly happy with it. Since 6.1.4 cannot be upgraded to 7.0.1, will 6.4.1 be upgraded and maintained by itself anymore, or is it all stopped now? Will I be left behind?

I was thinking of upgrading to this 7.0.1, but there are a few snags. My laptop, for one thing, has only 1 gig of memory. It is my understanding one needs 2 gig in order to do the required full install (I think I read that right).

Anyway, I am going to burn this 7.0.1 onto a disc and see what I am missing out on and how much fun it is!

The 2GB requirement is for running from live-CD or a frugal installation, as everything gets loaded into RAM.

If you go to my blog announcement for 7.0.1, there is a link to install instructions.
There is a file you download, then run a script to install to a flash drive or a hd partition.
-- that will be a full installation, and will run fine in a 1MB RAM PC.

Thanks for the response. I missed it somehow. This should solve my problem.

[broomdodger]

The 2GB requirement is for running from live-CD or a frugal installation, as everything gets loaded into RAM.

If you go to my blog announcement for 7.0.1, there is a link to install instructions.
There is a file you download, then run a script to install to a flash drive or a hd partition.
-- that will be a full installation, and will run fine in a 1MB RAM PC.

Surely this is a typo, do you mean 1 GB RAM?
I do not know anything today that will work with 1 MB RAM!

[linuxcbon]

It is not recommended to use 'configure' directly.
Instead, you need to create a 'mozconfig' file. Do a search for "linuxfromscratch seamonkey", to find instructions.

I know but it's a bug anyway. I tried the mozconfig method, it works, typing from 2.33. Weird : add-ons manager works, so it must be the compile options. If interested here is my mozconfig :

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ac_add_options --prefix=/usr
ac_add_options --disable-dbus
ac_add_options --disable-pulseaudio
ac_add_options --disable-gstreamer
ac_add_options --disable-necko-wifi
ac_add_options --enable-application=suite
ac_add_options --disable-tests
ac_add_options --disable-debug
ac_add_options --enable-optimize
ac_add_options --enable-strip
ac_add_options --enable-install-strip
mk_add_options MOZ_OBJDIR=@TOPSRCDIR@/my-own-build-directory

Don't forget to create mozilla/my-own-build-directory
(as a side note, I also tried to compile midori but too much of a headache).

[scsijon]

Sorry for this but i'm a little dumb this morning. Pulled an all nighter as level 2 support.

Installed april-64bit 7.0.1 on a new laptop (with touchscreen) as frugal

Need to add grub as the hard drive is brand-new (no pre-loaded-windows, saved $90.00) and no grub installer in the April (visable anyway)

Downloaded grub-0.97-os.8.tar.bz2 (t2 april packages) and copied it to the laptop

clicked on it, expecting it to install, after all april T2 is a xxxx.tar.bz2 format packageset

it just opened xarchive

um........where do I / how do I install these already compiled packages.

[BarryK]

Quirky 7.0.2 released.

Many bug fixes, and improvements -- new SeaMonkey 2.33, works great.

Read my blog announcement, with a list of all the changes:

http://bkhome.org/news/?viewDetailed=00181

[Billtoo]

I updated my 7.0.1 install with the service pack:

# report-video
VIDEO REPORT: Quirky April64, version 7.0.2

Chip description:
VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation Device 1082 (rev a1)

Requested by /etc/X11/xorg.conf:
Resolution (widthxheight, in pixels): 1920x1080
Depth (bits, or planes): 24
Modules requested to be loaded: dbe

Probing Xorg startup log file (/var/log/Xorg.0.log):
Driver loaded (and currently in use): nvidia
Loaded modules: dbe dri2 extmod fb glx kbd mouse ramdac wfb

Actual rendering on monitor:
Resolution: 3840x1080 pixels (1049x292 millimeters)
Depth: 24 planes

...the above also recorded in /tmp/report-video
#

This is a full install to an external 128gb usb 3.0 SSD which is plugged into a usb 2.0 port.

No problems so far.

[BarryK]

Although Quirky is intended for full installations, if you want to do a frugal install, without having to burn the .iso file to CD and boot the CD, yes, the files can be take directly out of the .iso file.

HOWEVER, read this:

You must use my script to do it, as explained here:
http://distro.ibiblio.org/quirky/quirky ... frugal.htm

Here is the script:
http://distro.ibiblio.org/quirky/quirky ... lquirky.gz

I think that the script will work running any recent Puppy, Quirky or Fatdog.

Frugal install is OK, but do be aware that it loads totally into RAM, so you need at least 2GB RAM (though one tester has reported 1.5GB works).
It sure is fast though, running in RAM -- SM starts in 1 second.

[BarryK]

The frugal installation for 7.0.2 is different from earlier quirkies.

rufwoof investigated various ideas, based off 7.0 and 7.0.1.

One of those ideas was to take 'q.sfs' out of 'initrd.q'.
This is what I have gone for, but have kept the zram.

q.sfs is also uncompressed, which makes saves very fast.

[James C]

Updated to 7.0.2 with the service pack. No problems and SeaMonkey is much better behaved.

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# report-video
VIDEO REPORT: Quirky April64, version 7.0.2

Chip description:
VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation Device 0a65 (rev a2)

Requested by /etc/X11/xorg.conf:
  Resolution (widthxheight, in pixels): 1024x768x16
  Depth (bits, or planes):              24
  Modules requested to be loaded:       dbe 

Probing Xorg startup log file (/var/log/Xorg.0.log):
  Driver loaded (and currently in use): nouveau
  Loaded modules: dbe dri2 exa extmod fb glx kbd mouse shadowfb

Actual rendering on monitor:
  Resolution:  1440x900 pixels (381x238 millimeters)
  Depth:       24 planes

...the above also recorded in /tmp/report-video
# 

[peebee]

Although Quirky is intended for full installations, if you want to do a frugal install, without having to burn the .iso file to CD and boot the CD, yes, the files can be take directly out of the .iso file.

HOWEVER, read this:

You must use my script to do it, as explained here:
http://distro.ibiblio.org/quirky/quirky ... frugal.htm

Here is the script:
http://distro.ibiblio.org/quirky/quirky ... lquirky.gz

I think that the script will work running any recent Puppy, Quirky or Fatdog.

Frugal install is OK, but do be aware that it loads totally into RAM, so you need at least 2GB RAM (though one tester has reported 1.5GB works).
It sure is fast though, running in RAM -- SM starts in 1 second.

[SOLVED - see later posts] I get kernel panic when I try to boot a frugal install of 7.0.2 using the above instructions.

I have tried using the install desktop icon from within 7.0.2 and also the separate installquirky script from Slacko6 - both frugal installs kernel panic on boot.

My grub4dos entry is:

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title April64 (sda4/test1)
  uuid 9bb32631-a1f9-425f-81bb-9f816347e8fc
  kernel /test1/vmlinuz  rootwait rw
  initrd /test1/initrd.q

installquirky when run in Slacko6 says:
./installquirky: line 268: popup: command not found

This is on my desktop with 4GB ram. The files sizes after install are:

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# ls -s
total 531584
   440 initrd.q  527652 q.sfs    3492 vmlinuz

[Blackfish]

I got Quirky 7.0.1 installed on my USB sticks and one partition, no problem, and got the upgrade to 7.0.2 this morning on the USB sticks, no problem.

I figured after the successful installation on the partition, I would just hop on the Internet and upgrade to 7.0.2 and be done with it. But the installation on the partition does not, can not connect to the Internet because the simple set up does not see wlan0, only eth0 and windows. That's the first I have ever seen anything like that happen. And none of the other programs can help to connect either.

So, I decided to skip it altogether and just go download the 7.0.2 and reinstall on the partition with that Puppy, figuring that it might fix everything. But no love. The message on the Quirky Release Announcement page says to: "Download three files:
*.usfs.xz, sha1sums.txt, 4install-quirky-to-drive.gz."

I got the usfs.xz file for 7.0.2 downloaded, all right; but the sha1sums.txt file does not download, but only opens up when clicked; and the 4install-quirky-to-drive.gz file isn't even on the page. I had to do a search for another page to find that file and found this, which failed: http://ftp.nluug.nl/ftp/pub/os/Linux/di ... pril-6.94/

This is the page I used to get the usfs.xz file: http://distro.ibiblio.org/quirky/quirky ... ril-7.0.2/

It appears that I have the files, but they don't work when I try to run the script.

Do I need to look elsewhere for the necessary files? I don't understand what is happening here. Different files on different pages, and I don't know which ones to download. HELP!

[ally]

there can be a problem with a 'direct' download from nluug, have a quick look at the file size, it's often twice as big

using wget works always or use ibiblio

[Blackfish]

I got Quirky 7.0.1 installed on my USB sticks and one partition, no problem, and got the upgrade to 7.0.2 this morning on the USB sticks, no problem.

I figured after the successful installation on the partition, I would just hop on the Internet and upgrade to 7.0.2 and be done with it. But the installation on the partition does not, can not connect to the Internet because the simple set up does not see wlan0, only eth0 and windows. That's the first I have ever seen anything like that happen. And none of the other programs can help to connect either.

So, I decided to skip it altogether and just go download the 7.0.2 and reinstall on the partition with that Puppy, figuring that it might fix everything. But no love. The message on the Quirky Release Announcement page says to: "Download three files:
*.usfs.xz, sha1sums.txt, 4install-quirky-to-drive.gz."

I got the usfs.xz file for 7.0.2 downloaded, all right; but the sha1sums.txt file does not download, but only opens up when clicked; and the 4install-quirky-to-drive.gz file isn't even on the page. I had to do a search for another page to find that file and found this, which failed: http://ftp.nluug.nl/ftp/pub/os/Linux/di ... pril-6.94/

This is the page I used to get the usfs.xz file: http://distro.ibiblio.org/quirky/quirky ... ril-7.0.2/

It appears that I have the files, but they don't work when I try to run the script.

Do I need to look elsewhere for the necessary files? I don't understand what is happening here. Different files on different pages, and I don't know which ones to download. HELP!

Forget it.

I went back to this page, where I think it was I originally found the April 7.0 files: http://distro.ibiblio.org/quirky/quirky6/x86/april-7.0/

I will download and try them all again and see if it works, then just upgrade from there. Thanks.

[jamesbond]

I have just tested the upcoming 7.0.2 live-CD, started SM without network connection, no problem.

Add-Ons Manager, Extensions, only has Chatzilla and DOM Inspector.

Thanks Barry - we finally found out what causes the update check - there was an obsolete line in prefs.js that made SM to believe that the extensions was last checked a decade ago. We removed that line and now it goes straight to desktop, no more silly checkings. All good from here.

[Blackfish]

I got Quirky 7.0.1 installed on my USB sticks and one partition, no problem, and got the upgrade to 7.0.2 this morning on the USB sticks, no problem.

I figured after the successful installation on the partition, I would just hop on the Internet and upgrade to 7.0.2 and be done with it. But the installation on the partition does not, can not connect to the Internet because the simple set up does not see wlan0, only eth0 and windows. That's the first I have ever seen anything like that happen. And none of the other programs can help to connect either.

So, I decided to skip it altogether and just go download the 7.0.2 and reinstall on the partition with that Puppy, figuring that it might fix everything. But no love. The message on the Quirky Release Announcement page says to: "Download three files:
*.usfs.xz, sha1sums.txt, 4install-quirky-to-drive.gz."

I got the usfs.xz file for 7.0.2 downloaded, all right; but the sha1sums.txt file does not download, but only opens up when clicked; and the 4install-quirky-to-drive.gz file isn't even on the page. I had to do a search for another page to find that file and found this, which failed: http://ftp.nluug.nl/ftp/pub/os/Linux/di ... pril-6.94/

This is the page I used to get the usfs.xz file: http://distro.ibiblio.org/quirky/quirky ... ril-7.0.2/

It appears that I have the files, but they don't work when I try to run the script.

Do I need to look elsewhere for the necessary files? I don't understand what is happening here. Different files on different pages, and I don't know which ones to download. HELP!

Forget it.

I went back to this page, where I think it was I originally found the April 7.0 files: http://distro.ibiblio.org/quirky/quirky6/x86/april-7.0/

I will download and try them all again and see if it works, then just upgrade from there. Thanks.

Now, that's bizarre! I just loaded the 7.0 onto the partition and it, too, leaves me with no way to connect to the Internet. That's weird. Everything worked perfectly with the USB sticks, the install, connectivity, upgrade to 7.0.2--EVERYTHING! But when I install to partition, nothing seems to be working right and things are missing.

Workin' on it.

[kj4bnh]

Been with this distro since 7.0. Installed 7.0.1 then 7.0.2. The only "issue" is when running SM using the arrow keys to line up or down the screen blanks. This has been going on since 7.0. Any ideas?

[Ted Dog]

its usually a graphic driver problem causing the tearing on textboxes when scrolling it happens in other software but doesn't show itself much word processing programs will also have behavior.
Either find a less generic video driver or compile the non-open sourced software from the manufacturers website. Changing the windows manager from jwm can work but most of the options in puppylinux family also sripts out or doesn't compile in composition ADDed drivers (since well it not needed most of the time in most hardware configuratiion ) you are not alone same happens to me, if I can get the non-open source video drivers to compile ( AMD/ATI ) I hunt for my copy of composition .PET and pray it still works.. AMD has not supported the new kernel versions used so may try the Beta or wait till its supported again.