Quirky April 7.0 - 7.0.3, 7.0.4, 7.0.4.1

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unicorn316386

#361 Post by unicorn316386 »

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Re: Rox and desktop files

#362 Post by L18L »

BarryK wrote:
L18L wrote:Barry,

I just want to bring this
Rox and desktop files: how to display translated Comment
to your attention.

Regards
I will look at it, but mikeb has to post the modified files. Never mind patches.
Patch availabe at http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 5&start=53

Thank you.

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cron uses UTC time

#363 Post by don570 »

I think I'm close to tracking down the source of my cron job problems.
crond app is using UTC time rather than system time.

Computer installation:
Windows XP machine ---> I've tried setting clock type to both Local time and GMT time and the problem is the same.
I've tried booting april64 with a CD and installing in a 16 GB USB stick.

I've found that I can make cron jobs work with the hour setting if
I use the UTC time by typing in the terminal ' date -u'
Then once I know the UTC date I can set the cron job using UTC time.

The popup message will occur at the proper time (as measured by UTC)
# date
Tue Apr 7 00:22:36 GMT-8 2015
# date -u
Mon Apr 6 16:23:20 UTC 2015
# crontab -l
24 16 * * * gxmessage Happy Puppy #
#

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Re: cron uses UTC time

#364 Post by broomdodger »

don570 wrote:I think I'm close to tracking down the source of my cron job problems.
crond app is using UTC time rather than system time.

Computer installation:
Windows XP machine ---> I've tried setting clock type to both Local time and GMT time and the problem is the same.
I've tried booting april64 with a CD and installing in a 16 GB USB stick.

I've found that I can make cron jobs work with the hour setting if
I use the UTC time by typing in the terminal ' date -u'
Then once I know the UTC date I can set the cron job using UTC time.

The popup message will occur at the proper time (as measured by UTC)
# date
Tue Apr 7 00:22:36 GMT-8 2015
# date -u
Mon Apr 6 16:23:20 UTC 2015
# crontab -l
24 16 * * * gxmessage Happy Puppy #
#
That is exactly why I suggested:
Use this for crontab -e, it should message every minute:

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* * * * * gxmessage Hello don570

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#365 Post by don570 »

Use this for crontab -e, it should message every minute:
Code:
* * * * * gxmessage Hello don570
The minute setting is always correct because UTC time and system time
always uses the same minute. For instance

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9 * * * * gxmessage Hello don570
will always pop up a message at 9 minutes after every hour.
When there is no hour set then there is no problem.

I've never seen this problem with any other distro.
Am I the only one seeing this problem??

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#366 Post by broomdodger »

don570 wrote:
Use this for crontab -e, it should message every minute:
Code:
* * * * * gxmessage Hello don570
The minute setting is always correct because UTC time and system time
always uses the same minute. For instance

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9 * * * * gxmessage Hello don570
will always pop up a message at 9 minutes after every hour.
When there is no hour set then there is no problem.

I've never seen this problem with any other distro.
Am I the only one seeing this problem??
Is the time set correctly in the BIOS ?

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Quirky April 7.0.2 final

#367 Post by Billtoo »

I noticed Quirky April 7.0.3 was available at ibiblio so I've installed
to a 32gb SDHC card.
I was in Mint 17 64bit and downloaded the install script and followed
instructions.
The script stopped because it couldn't find urxvt or xterm so I added
xterm to Mint and tried again, this time when it was going to download
the file it erred out saying the checksum was different.
I downloaded the files and the checksums were good, so ran the script
again.
I ended up with a "UEFI:Generic Storage Device 9454" entry when I
rebooted hitting the esc key to bring up the boot menu.

# report-video
VIDEO REPORT: Quirky April64, version 7.0.3

Chip description:
VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Device 0152 (rev 09)

Requested by /etc/X11/xorg.conf:
Resolution (widthxheight, in pixels): 1920x1080
Depth (bits, or planes): 24
Modules requested to be loaded: dbe

Probing Xorg startup log file (/var/log/Xorg.0.log):
Driver loaded (and currently in use): intel
Loaded modules: dbe dri2 extmod glx kbd mouse present

Actual rendering on monitor:
Resolution: 1920x1080 pixels (508x285 millimeters)
Depth: 24 planes

...the above also recorded in /tmp/report-video
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video-info-glx 1.5.3 Wed 8 Apr 2015 on Quirky April64 7.0.3 Linux 3.19.2 x86_64
2.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Device 0152 (rev 09)
oem: Intel(R) Sandybridge/Ivybridge Graphics Chipset Accelerated VGA BIOS
product: Intel(R) Sandybridge/Ivybridge Graphics Controller Hardware Version 0.0

X Server: Xorg Driver: intel
X.Org version: 1.16.2
dimensions: 1920x1080 pixels (508x285 millimeters)
depth of root window: 24 planes

It's working okay so far.
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#368 Post by jd7654 »

Did a frugal install on a Acer ZG5 netbook with 1GB RAM.

The Quirky Installer window is a little too tall for the 1024x600 screen and the bottom two elements are not visible. But I knew what they were from running on another desktop, so I tabbed through it blindly OK.

I notice the Live CD allocates about 2/3 of system RAM for the zram, but the frugal installed version does about 3/4 RAM. It ran OK, but not much room for doing stuff. Only about 130MB free and 600MB RAM used. Already had April installed on the netbook on a small 2GB partition where it takes up only 850MB and it runs much better there with more free RAM and HD space, but just wanted to try frugal to see what happened.

The q.sfs file was about 490MB. The save gave an error a couple times "directory missing or not found" but I could not pin it down. Seemed to save settings OK except for the first time .history was lost. And seems that network interface does not come up automatically after reboot if SNS is used but does come if configured Network Wizard.

I tried to rename the quirky directory after it was installed (since I couldn't see it off the install screen) and change grub accordingly, but it did not like that and did a kernel panic and crashed hard, so I put it back to default april-7.0.2. I guess it needs psubdir support or something.
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unicorn316386

#369 Post by unicorn316386 »

edit: Outdated comment (7.0.2 frugal)
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#370 Post by BarryK »

Yes, 7.0.3 is out, see announcement:
http://bkhome.org/news/?viewDetailed=00187

Install instructions:
http://distro.ibiblio.org/quirky/quirky ... readme.htm

Right, so there are issues with the Installer!
[url]https://bkhome.org/news/[/url]

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#371 Post by don570 »

http://ftp.nluug.nl/os/Linux/distr/quir ... ril-7.0.3/

quick download site

______________________________________

unicorn316386

#372 Post by unicorn316386 »

Installed 7.0.3 Full on ext4 Partition. All is well. :)
Boot up is fastest of all Puppies I've tried (6 seconds?). Using only 90MB of RAM on startup.

Only tiny hiccup was that I had to save "april-7.0.3.usfs.xz" (141MB) manually from don570's link to hard drive (mnt/sda2) outside of RAM because my RAM was too full (11MB free) to use automatic method from install (which tries to save file inside RAM).

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Barry's April downloads for 32bit and 64bit found here

#373 Post by gcmartin »

Thanks @BarryK

Three methods of operation on BIOS PCs
  • DVD to RAM
  • Frugal to RAM via HDD/SSD/USB or if your PC will boot directly, SD/microSD
  • FULL install on HDD/SSD/USB partitions or full-drive units on either BIOS/UEFI PCs
Barry's April 64bit files found here (IBIBLIO) and faster HERE (NLUUG)

Barry's April 32bit files found here and faster HERE

Hope this helps users

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#374 Post by jd7654 »

Tried the GUI installer with 7.0.3 and let it download option. Got an error when it tried to save file to /tmp location. It didn't ask to save somewhere else where there was more space. So I just grabbed the file manually and install went fine. Installed to USB flash and HD partition.

Tried the ISO. Frugal install option went away for netbook. Install link just runs GUI installer for drive or partition. Assume it was hard denial by the under 1.2 GB RAM tick box, whereas on 7.0.2 it let it slide?

The HD install footprint really is getting smaller, nice! It was under 500MB on 6.1.4 and then blew up to around a Gig for 6.0.5 and 6.2. April was 800MB but now down to 600MB with 7.0.3.
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#375 Post by Blackfish »

Installed 7.0.3 on all USB sticks. No issues. Everything perfect.

Running Quirky 6.1.4 on two partitions on main hard drive. Wondering if they can ever be upgraded and/or when it will be a good time to try a fresh install with Quirky 7. I tried it on the hard drive once already and it didn't work very well there; too many things missing after installation and it didn't run right. Perhaps recent upgrades fix these issues? Perhaps it is best to wait for more upgrades before trying again?

Meantime, I boot from USB sticks and run the operating system from there, writing my files to the hard drive, then backing them up to the USB stick! So cool! Lovin' it! Gotta be creative! Make it work!
Dell Latitude E5500 w/ Intel Centrino processor-- running bionicpup64-8.0

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#376 Post by James C »

April 7.0.3 live cd on an old 32 bit box with only 2 gb of ram.

All basics working on initial boot...planning to try the install script a nit later.

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# report-video
VIDEO REPORT: Quirky April, version 7.0.3

Chip description:
VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82865G Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02)

Requested by /etc/X11/xorg.conf:
  Resolution (widthxheight, in pixels): 1024x768
  Depth (bits, or planes):              24
  Modules requested to be loaded:       dbe 

Probing Xorg startup log file (/var/log/Xorg.0.log):
  Driver loaded (and currently in use): intel
  Loaded modules: dbe dri2 extmod glx kbd mouse present

Actual rendering on monitor:
  Resolution:  1024x768 pixels (270x203 millimeters)
  Depth:       24 planes

...the above also recorded in /tmp/report-video
# 

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Pup-SysInfo Hardware Report (Summary), Thu 9 Apr 2015

Current Time: 00:39:47
System Uptime: 11 min
Load Average: 0.32 0.25 0.16

▶—— BASE SYSTEM ——◀

PC Manufacturer: MICRO-STAR INTL, CO.,LTD.
Product Name: MS-7037

Motherboard Vendor: MICRO-STAR INTL, CO.,LTD.
Product Name: MS-7037

BIOS Vendor: Phoenix Technologies, LTD
Version: 6.00 PG
Release Date: 06/08/2004

Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.00GHz
Max Speed: 3066 MHz
Current Speed of Core 0:3000 MHz, 1:3000 MHz

temp1 (acpitz) : +40.0 C (high = +NA.0 C, crit = +75.0 C)

Memory Allocation:
 Total RAM: 2016 MB
 Used RAM: 1174 MB
 Free RAM: 842 MB
 Buffers: 10 MB
 Total Swap: 2099 MB
 Free Swap: 2099 MB

Linux Kernel: 3.17.8 (i686)
Kernel Version: #1 SMP Thu Jan 22 12:14:33 GMT-8 2015
PAE Enabled: No

Distro: Quirky April 7.0.3
Window Manager: JWM vgit-976
Desktop Start: xwin jwm
Ram usage at idle immediately after boot

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# free
             total         used         free       shared      buffers
Mem:       2065200      1094252       970948        22988        10120
-/+ buffers:            1084132       981068
Swap:      2150396            0      2150396
# 
With SeaMonkey opened posting now

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# free
             total         used         free       shared      buffers
Mem:       2065200      1182984       882216        33904          672
-/+ buffers:            1182312       882888
Swap:      2150396            0      2150396
# 

April64 probably tomorrow.

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#377 Post by jd7654 »

Frugal install failure with April 7.0.3 live ISO.

This same machine had successful frugal install from live ISO with 7.0.2, A64X2 2GB RAM into EXT4 partition. Ran the install link from console and just had some error about not a block device:

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# df
Filesystem     1K-blocks     Used Available Use% Mounted on
/dev/zram0       1394764   611780    782984  44% /
devtmpfs          947972        0    947972   0% /dev
shmfs             257996        0    257996   0% /dev/shm
/dev/sda1       61439604 58140568   3299036  95% /mnt/sda1
/dev/sda4       11568528  5745076   5688888  51% /mnt/sda4
# /usr/sbin/installquirky
1300+0 records in
1300+0 records out
1363148800 bytes (1.3GB) copied, 79.737294 seconds, 16.3MB/s
mkfs.ext2: /mnt/sda4/tmpwkgfs.q: not a block device
#
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#378 Post by James C »

Same old box as other post. Booted into a full install of Tahrpup 6.0.2 and attempted a frugal install with the install script.

Download failed.

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root# ./installquirky.x86
Verifying archive integrity... All good.
Uncompressing installquirky  100%  
ldd: /tmp/selfgz2181629544/syslinux: No such file or directory
PING www.google.com (173.194.219.103): 56 data bytes
64 bytes from 173.194.219.103: seq=0 ttl=40 time=54.659 ms

--- www.google.com ping statistics ---
1 packets transmitted, 1 packets received, 0% packet loss
round-trip min/avg/max = 54.659/54.659/54.659 ms
/usr/sbin/download_file: line 82: 27481 Terminated              rxvt -geometry 130x10+0+0 -bg "$BG" -fg "$FG" -title "$(gettext 'Testing file exists:') ${URLSPEC}" -e tail -f /tmp/download_file_spider.log1
/usr/sbin/download_file: line 248: 27558 Terminated              rxvt -geometry 130x10+0+0 -bg "$BG" -fg "$FG" -title "$(gettext 'Downloading file:') ${URLSPEC}" -e tail -f /tmp/download_file_spider.log2
/usr/sbin/download_file: line 82: 27614 Terminated              rxvt -geometry 130x10+0+0 -bg "$BG" -fg "$FG" -title "$(gettext 'Testing file exists:') ${URLSPEC}" -e tail -f /tmp/download_file_spider.log1
sha1sum: can't open './april-7.0.3.iso': No such file or directory
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#379 Post by James C »

Attempted a frugal install from the live cd. At the end of copying files there was an error message " Quirky installer: error Sorry,there was an error.Aborting."

The sizes of the copied files looked about right so I quickly edited the menu.lst (installer aborted before it got to that part) and rebooted.

Posting from April 7.0.3 frugal now but it refuses to save. April seems to think I'm running from the cd even though I booted from a frugal on the internal hdd.

Wonder if it has anything to do with the missing q.sfs?

About enough testing for tonight.
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#380 Post by James C »

Just to remove some variables, just did a frugal install from the April 7.0.2 live cd. Same hardware, no problems at all.

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# report-video
VIDEO REPORT: Quirky April, version 7.0.2

Chip description:
VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82865G Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02)

Requested by /etc/X11/xorg.conf:
  Resolution (widthxheight, in pixels): 1024x768
  Depth (bits, or planes):              24
  Modules requested to be loaded:       dbe 

Probing Xorg startup log file (/var/log/Xorg.0.log):
  Driver loaded (and currently in use): intel
  Loaded modules: dbe dri2 extmod glx kbd mouse present

Actual rendering on monitor:
  Resolution:  1024x768 pixels (270x203 millimeters)
  Depth:       24 planes

...the above also recorded in /tmp/report-video
# 

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-Computer-
Processor		: 2x Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.00GHz
Memory		: 2065MB (567MB used)
Operating System		: Unknown distribution
User Name		: root (root)
Date/Time		: Thu 09 Apr 2015 02:51:03 AM CDT
-Display-
Resolution		: 1024x768 pixels
OpenGL Renderer		: Unknown
X11 Vendor		: The X.Org Foundation
-Multimedia-
Audio Adapter		: ICH4 - Intel ICH5

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# free
             total         used         free       shared      buffers
Mem:       2065200       979004      1086196        32864        10404
-/+ buffers:             968600      1096600
Swap:      2150396            0      2150396
# 

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