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Burn_IT · Joined: 12 Aug 2006 Posts: 3701 Location: Tamworth UK

I had a couple walk away when I tried to convert them to Heinlein's "Thou art God"

dejan555 · Joined: 30 Nov 2008 Posts: 2817 Location: Montenegro

mikeb, since you like to build your own pups you can easily move spot to /home and I don't think I need to explain you how Smile

Puppy does have multiuser ability just like any other distro, but in the very begining of writing puppy scripts Barry made choice not to think about other users then root, and so many of those scripts place configuration files in the places where normal users can't access them etc... and that's why you can't launch X and many other apps when not running as root.

So now we have to rewrite scripts and fix things to get multiuser going... this wouldn't affect puppy size a lot at all so all the talk about puppy being compact for running as root only doesn't add up.

In dpup 486/487 I tried to implement multiuser - I think I didn't move spot, but any new users created have home dir in /home and I even sent modified files on woof-CE forum that would solve the root/user issue for the big part but it wasn't accepted (I didn't make changes through git though so maybe noone even bothered to test the tar I attached)

mikeb · Joined: 23 Nov 2006 Posts: 11329

Yes not major changes and thats not the problem...getting it accepted is.

I made 2.12 multiuser and later on 4.12... used slim for the login manager.

Other fun bunny though is that some of those /root only script would be root only anyway...eg setting up wifi.....so there is less to change plus gradually ~/ and $HOME has been adopted by scripts.

My question was really as read WHY is spot in /root...after all running as a user still requires configs to be in that folder whereever it is.

Part of a broader question of why does /root have to be so cluttered.

But then you could ask why is the menu so cluttered someone is writing a search for it.

Why are the icons soooo ugly....

Why is background cpu usage so high...

Why......

Sorry asking annoying questions is part of my solitary existance...

mike

dejan555 · Joined: 30 Nov 2008 Posts: 2817 Location: Montenegro

Yeah , I don't know, it doesn't have any sense for one's home dir to be inside another user's home dir... let's make third user and set it's home dir inside spot's... we need to go DEEPER Laughing

All good questions, but that's just the way someone decided to be.

mikeb · Joined: 23 Nov 2006 Posts: 11329

Smithy · Joined: 12 Dec 2011 Posts: 1155

Why why why why why why why oh why..
Eh, cpu usage? You got a mass mailer bot running in puppy, mike and a torrent hound Smile

mikeb · Joined: 23 Nov 2006 Posts: 11329

Smithy · Joined: 12 Dec 2011 Posts: 1155

Wish Android was like puppy, gawd knows what's going on in there, you stop things and they come right back up.
Still their slogan is " We want to know more about you than you know about yourself". Used to be "Do no evil or someit" lol.

According to the Top view running processes , says 95%-96% idle.
Not sure what the % VSZ column means but there are 9 things at 1%, 1 at 2%
and FF at 21%.

That's on Pemasu's dpup, with whatever kernel is in it.

mikeb · Joined: 23 Nov 2006 Posts: 11329

i like it when Htop is the one using the cpu Smile

well not really a kernel issue unless its a buggy one.
pemasu probably did some nice script tweaking himself.

Now working out what weird permission thingy is preventing this ere network monitor from working...now thats a brain melter..it was working sooo well too.
Such things will cause a depressive slump which can only be resolved with food.

mike

Smithy · Joined: 12 Dec 2011 Posts: 1155

It's best...Just had some stilton, that is a bit of a mad cheese, but alright.

Maybe it's time for a Puppy food thread, we've had show us yer trolltechs, plenty of root stuff, maybe time for a way to a puppy users heart/ army marches on its,,type thing. Maybe not. Why, why why why why oh why Smile

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mikeb · Joined: 23 Nov 2006 Posts: 11329

Ok korma and chillies were the curious flavouring mixture tonight.... one is full with warm eyeballs..

That does not solve the technical issues but now I don't care Very Happy

Yes a food thread... you'll be surprised how many funky recipies are hidden away in puppy users....and make a change from someone else's photographs.

Mike

Burn_IT · Joined: 12 Aug 2006 Posts: 3701 Location: Tamworth UK

Smithy · Joined: 12 Dec 2011 Posts: 1155

Blue Stilton.

Burn_IT · Joined: 12 Aug 2006 Posts: 3701 Location: Tamworth UK

I've just finished a pot of blue that was given to me for Xmas a couple of years ago and we had forgotten it in the back of the fridge.
It crawled out and gave itself up..........