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Which Browser is Best for Puppy
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Which browser is best for Puppy and why?
Dillo?
4%
 4%  [ 7 ]
Seamonkey?
25%
 25%  [ 39 ]
FireFox?
32%
 32%  [ 51 ]
Flock?
0%
 0%  [ 0 ]
Opera?
27%
 27%  [ 43 ]
Swiftfox?
4%
 4%  [ 7 ]
Konqueror?
1%
 1%  [ 2 ]
Command Line Browser?
0%
 0%  [ 1 ]
hv3?
0%
 0%  [ 1 ]
Something else?
2%
 2%  [ 4 ]
Total Votes : 155

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gliezl


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PostPosted: Sat 16 Dec 2006, 22:09    Post subject:    

Opera. They say it the fastest browser in the plaNET. Very Happy
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marksouth2000

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PostPosted: Sun 17 Dec 2006, 01:08    Post subject:  

I'm agreeing with gliezl. On a low memory system, Opera runs far more smoothly than Seamonkey, probably due to allocating a lot less memory to start with. And that's one app with browser, mail client, torrent client, chat client all built in.

On this portable with 800x600 display I make extensive use of Opera's convenient page zoom function (+ and - keys).

Really, though, we need to build a special Puppy version of Firefox that dumps most of the unnecessary bloat....
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craftybytes


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PostPosted: Sun 17 Dec 2006, 04:55    Post subject: RE: Which Browser is Best for Puppy  

I vote for Opera - because it is:-

* very fast;
* very configurable;
* easy to use;
* multi-tabbed;
* can be configured thru web page;
* font rendering is very good and can be configured;
* skinable;
* has inbuilt - mail client, torrent client, chat client;
* handles java & javascript well;
* separate javascript scripts can be easily added & used (easy to filter out unwanted muck on incoming web pages BEFORE it is rendered to screen) ..

Edited: forgot to mention -

* multiple panels - can be docked where user chooses;
* multiple toolbars - configurable;
* toolbar buttons - configurable ......

Have used it for many years in it's various incantations - the latest version v9.02 is very stable AND FREE ..

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John Doe

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PostPosted: Sun 17 Dec 2006, 05:25    Post subject:  

> Which Browser is Best for Puppy?

Whichever browser the user at the keyboard thinks is. Smile
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primalphunk

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PostPosted: Sun 17 Dec 2006, 11:37    Post subject:  

My vote is still with Dillo because it's just really fast. Of course I don't want to loose the ability to install firefox for browsing more bloated sites. Seamonkey would be my third choice.

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marksouth2000

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PostPosted: Sun 17 Dec 2006, 13:45    Post subject:  

John Doe wrote:
> Which Browser is Best for Puppy?

Whichever browser the user at the keyboard thinks is. Smile

Yeah, but informed decisions are based on facts, so the point of the thread is to gather facts and experience reports to base future decisions on.

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My vote is still with Dillo because it's just really fast. Of course I don't want to loose the ability to install firefox for browsing more bloated sites. Seamonkey would be my third choice.

Firefox simply won't run on most older machines of the kind that Puppy is so great at revitalising. Sad, but true.

Dillo is a great start at making a browser, with absolutely no future. I say this as someone who reads the dillo-dev mailing list. Clue. Average traffic is about a message per month, normally saying "when is the next dillo coming out?""

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PostPosted: Sun 17 Dec 2006, 16:09    Post subject:  

If I could change my vote I'd move from Firefox to Swiftfox. Very Happy

After the last couple of days experimenting with it, I like that it gives me most of Firefox v2.0 functionality but it's FAST.

I've moved all 3 of my Puppy installations to Swiftfox.

Don't know about how it goes on the older machines yet, ms2k. I'll try some of the real clunkers I've got in rebuild after Christmas and let you know. It's processor-specific so it won't be a short trial. Cool

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John Doe

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PostPosted: Sun 17 Dec 2006, 16:42    Post subject:  

marksouth2000 wrote:
John Doe wrote:
> Which Browser is Best for Puppy?

Whichever browser the user at the keyboard thinks is. Smile

Yeah, but informed decisions are based on facts, so the point of the thread is to gather facts and experience reports to base future decisions on.


So, I bumped it. You're welcome.
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SirDuncan


Joined: 09 Dec 2006
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Location: Ohio, USA

PostPosted: Sun 17 Dec 2006, 20:53    Post subject:  

I've only used Firefox, Dillo, and SeaMonkey. Of those I prefer Firefox, but I feel it is more bloated than the ideal browser should be. This makes me very interested in Swiftfox (which I had not heard of before), but it cannot be the best browser for puppy because of its processor dependency. Hv3 sounds worth looking at, but Firefox is probably the best for most uses. Something else might be better for a specific puplett, though.
If you're going the "let them install what they want when they use puppy" approach, then Dillo is the best choice as a default because it is small and works well enough to keep people happy until they install their browser of choice.
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joki

Joined: 21 Oct 2006
Posts: 79

PostPosted: Tue 19 Dec 2006, 04:31    Post subject:  

SirDuncan wrote:
I've only used Firefox, Dillo, and SeaMonkey.

....

but Firefox is probably the best for most uses.


...but you've never tried opera. give it a go Smile

i suspect a lot of moz ppl have never given opera a chance yet say ff is the best. the only argument i can see for prefering a moz browser over opera is the open-source one. opera beats ff on virtually every count. i admit that ive not tried ff2 but i use ie6,ff1.5 and opera at work and here/witness the same old serious problems with ie and ff.

ff (when v1 was released) did a good marketing campain considering the product on offer. opera shoud've gone ad-free then (not 6? months later) i reckon the browser market would look a lot different today if opera had got its name about (iirc opera 4 yrs ago was better than ff1.5)
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PostPosted: Wed 20 Dec 2006, 15:32    Post subject: Try Opera  

The opinion that I gave above (and what will be appearing below) is, of course, limited by my own experience.
I probably will give Opera a try since everyone seems to like it. However, Firefox is most likely still the best for puppy at the moment. Here's why: Puppy has always touted itself as being friendly to Windows users, and Firefox is the only browser other than IE that is regularly used on Windows computers. It is also very stable (I won't say that FF2 is since I haven't had enough time with it yet, but previous versions have been) and has great compatibility with HTML standards.
That being said, I will be testing other browsers for my own use. I like Firefox, but it is larger than I would like. Swiftfox is too fickle at the moment or I might go with it. I'll post again once I've messed around with Opera. If it is as stable and standards compliant and can overcome unfamiliarity issues for new users, it may be worthy to be the default puppy browser.
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marksouth2000

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PostPosted: Wed 20 Dec 2006, 18:31    Post subject:  

Opera certainly runs on the widest range of platforms, Linux, BSD, Windows, cellphones, Nintendo DS etc.

As to standards, the CTO of Opera ASA is the guy who invented CSS when he worked for W3C, they are certainly standards focused.

Oh, and there's an Opera widget for a Sokoban game, so that's a big win right there Smile
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Todd

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PostPosted: Wed 20 Dec 2006, 19:03    Post subject: Hv3  

I have tried Hv3 and I have to say that it is very impressive and definitely has a future. I voted for Konqueror, but having thought about it, I think Hv3 is probably the best for Puppy. My reasoning is as follows:

1 - Hv3 is open source (BSD type license)
2 - Hv3 is under continued development
3 - Having Hv3 as the default allows the user to install their browser of choice while at the same time giving them something to start with.

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SirDuncan


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PostPosted: Wed 20 Dec 2006, 19:18    Post subject: Hv3  

My only problem with Hv3 is that it currently displays many of the pages that I have visited incorrectly. I like its layout and feel better than Dillo. Unfortunately, it just doesn't seem far enough along yet. It's one I will be keeping an eye on.
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Yaverot


Joined: 21 Dec 2005
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PostPosted: Wed 20 Dec 2006, 23:48    Post subject:  

I don't know which is the best (Puppy or not), but I tried the 2.0whatever that had Opera in it. Opera may have advanced to useable since then, or may not be so incompatible with Puppy now, but that release gave Opera a big black eye in my view.

Dillo is awful in my experience. I have the strange feeling I'd prefer Lynx over Dillo any day, but I haven't tried Lynx (unless is was the gopher client that my old freenet.uchsc.edu account had, but that wouldn't be a fair comparison either).

I've recently obtained a Mac laptop with Core Duos, so I also know Safari isn't what I'm looking for in a webbrowser either. Of course FireFox for Mac didn't score me many points either, so maybe its the 'act like a Mac' that I don't like in that version.

With Puppy I use whatever real browser comes installed with that version, avoiding those with the crippled identifier 'Opera' since that one time. So normally in Puppy I use Firefox or SeaMonkey.

Most of my browsing still occurs with Mozilla 1.0 on my Win98 machine (after all it has internet access [dial-up]). The Macbook I have to go to the library and use their wireless (so I plan for big download days at the library, and surf while I wait).

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