Lobster cracking sister's wifi password

[Lobster]

Here is the problem:

I can use Puppy on my sisters connection via wired ethernet and the router. Works fine. Wifi also works for my Ipad to the same router.

However ... the ISP has been changed and the password changed. It seems automatically for my connection.

So I know the old password but the new one is known only by my sister who needs to get on line again after a long while - using an ipad we bought her.

She needs to get on line via wifi but is as paranoid and crazy as a fruitbat. Asking her about the letter from the new ISP with the password or practically anything to do with computers sends her into anxiety mode.
I don't want to touch her Ipad. Just give her the password to her own system.

Not an easy situation.

Now I could try connecting Puppy by wifi and using some penetration puppy but that seems a lot of trouble ...

There must be a command line that shows me the password the ethernet is using?

I seem to remember you could find the password from the Ipad but can not seem to ...?

Thanks guys - any help welcome.

[rcrsn51]

There must be a command line that shows me the password the ethernet is using?

Ethernet doesn't need a password.

However ... the ISP has been changed and the password changed. It seems automatically for my connection.

For your Ethernet or WiFi connection?

Did the new ISP give you a new wireless router?

[Scooby]

Can you log into the router? Maybe it is this password your're after
if so check what the default passwd is and try that or maybe
you could do a hard factory reset and log into device with default
password via ethernet cable

A little harder to cover your tracks here though.

What is your sisters level of computer expertise?

What security protocol is wifi using?

Do you know how many characters they are using for the password?

It is still a little unclear what password your're after and
does your sister know it or not?

Probably easier to do some social engineering attack on your sister.

Are you living together or do you have acces to your sisters crib you
could always try the NSA operative way and go there physically to either
find and micro-film the ISP letter or install some trojan on her system
and get the password that way. I hear Hacking team code is out on github
build and infect your sisters devices.

Always easier to go after the weak-points in the chain than bruteforcing!

*EDIT*
After reading through your post again I interpret your problem being
you need to login to router and your sister has forgotten passwd and
is a bitch so cannot be bothered to look for letter.

In this case it would be OK for her to notice that you reset the router because you want to help her.

So do factory reset and login to router perhaps you need to refill ISP information and that will be lost during reset?

For me it was straight dynamic IP so nothing special to fill in ISP wise.

[Lobster]

Ethernet doesn't need a password

ah yes but can I get the wifi password to the router via ethernet? If not will configure Puppy to connect by wifi ... but without the wpa2 password what wiil I do?

However ... the ISP has been changed and the password changed. It seems automatically for my connection.
For your Ethernet or WiFi connection?

Both automatically. I did not know the password had been changed ... she tells me she can not find letter, can not phone ISP, is afraid to use her old windows laptop for email because it is compromised, 'unsafe' etc.

Did the new ISP give you a new wireless router?

No old router being used.

[PaulR]

Is the username/password on the bottom or back of the modem/router?

[Scooby]

is afraid to use her old windows laptop for email because it is compromised, 'unsafe' etc.

If old windows comp was ever connected via WIFI it has the
WPA2 key. Should be able to get it there.

If it shows up in form ******** in password field there are revealers for windows.

Turn off the router and have it unconnected to net when you research the old windows comp as a precaution since it has been compromised.

or

Try the factory reset of router

[Lobster]

thanks guys

the password old or new is not on the router

you are right, a windows connected machine would have the wpa2 password but I don't have one and I am loathe to ask her or help her directly as she thinks I am part of some (imaginary) conspiracy. I am not sure if her windows machine connects to the internet - it may have only worked with the old password connection.

[rcrsn51]

So I know the old password

If this is still the same WiFi router and your wireless devices continued to connect to it after the ISP change and you still know the old WPA2 password, then I can't see a problem.

[Lobster]

If this is still the same WiFi router and your wireless devices continued to connect to it after the ISP change and you still know the old WPA2 password, then I can't see a problem.

Because the Ipad we bought her requires the new password for a new set up and she seems unable to find the letter from the new ISP, Password from windows or contact the new ISP by phone. It is very difficult for her as she has social anxiety problems.

Not simple. She has had the Ipad for several weeks and still not completed the initial set up.

If I can just give her the password she might get online again. She is very isolated, so this would be good.

[rcrsn51]

I must be missing something. Even an ipad isn't smart enough to guess a new password. So if your ipad is still working, then the WPA password on the router did NOT change. So the old password that you know is still the valid password.

[Lobster]

It is me not explaining the situation completely.

The Ipad I use works from a repeater plugged into the ethernet. I can not use the Ipad from wifi if away from the repeater.

So to use the ipad anywhere still needs the new password.

There is a possibility I can get into the router by software BUT I seem to remember this was done via Windows and I had to borrow a laptop to do the setup.

The thing is if the wep2 password has changed, then the easiest way, which I keep saying is for her to find the letter from the ISP.

It is not easy dealing with someone with severe mental health problems. My feeling is that the ISP has taken over the direct debit from the old ISP. My sister says it will lapse soon, so she may have cancelled somehow, not sure.

If so, when this happens I can set up a contract and will actually know the wifi password.

Another possibility is she should be able to at least access the repeater from one shared room as that is what I have done.

It really seems like I am going to have to set up her ipad with her going mental and trying to 'help'. So far I have not even touched it.

[bigpup]

http://www.digitoffee.com/general/how-t ... router/21/

[Lobster]

Thanks bigpup that is a step in the right direction ...

I got to the router login - yeh!

but the name and password had been changed ... I had them written down but this was not being accepted, so not quite sure what next step is.

I may bypass the repeater, plug directly into the router but that is probably not the issue.

Many thanks

[Scooby]

It is very difficult for her as she has social anxiety problems.

Let me start by offering apologies for making harsh assumptions
about your sister earlier.

I am sorry.

As I see it either a) reset modem b) crack wifi password


a) You might loose ISP specific settings?

If you search on google for "factory reset router" in combination to
your routers make and modell you will get a cookbook recipe for
how to proceed

This is standard when

• Need to perform a "hard reset".
  Unable to access router interface.
  Forgot router administrative password.

Username to router interface is usually then something like

Username: admin
Password: password


Perhaps you can call ISP on sisters behalf and at least they can send
new credentials to her registered adress or she can contact them
by email

b)

t took about 5 hours to crack 19 characters WPA2 password (vishnuvalentino.com) from my Kali virtualBox, but it depend with our hardware and wireless card. - See more at: http://www.hacking-tutorial.com/hacking ... y5pXT.dpuf

If you have virtualbox or vwware maybe download kali linux and
try to break wifi password
https://www.kali.org/downloads/

Seems to require that WPS is enabled

I saw some online were you could upload and decrypt
Cannot find address and it cost money also no guarantees for success

[Lobster]

It is very difficult for her as she has social anxiety problems.

Let me start by offering apologies for making harsh assumptions
about your sister earlier.

I am sorry.

No worries scooby. I appreciate your ideas . . .

Your ideas are all sound.

Very good news ...

and hopeful

... she is currently reading in full the apple user agreement, and has got a connection via my repeater ... this will take her at least a day (she is making notes) but is progress ...

[rcrsn51]

Could you explain what your "repeater" is? I thought that ipads did NOT have an Ethernet port. How are you connecting it to the router?

[Lobster]

Ipads do not have ethernet ports. However the repeater can use the ethernet port and create a local wifi signal.

[Sylvander]

I'm no expert, but...

1. How about using "Wireless+wired Powerline Adapters to connect to the router?
Wouldn't that mean that the adapters are effectively a wired connection?

2. And then you'd set up a NEW wireless connection [with NEW network name and password] to the the secondary [wireless capable] adapter.

I hope this isn't a silly/impossible idea.
I believe I have this ability to do this with my adapters, but its been a looong time since I connected wirelessly to my wireless Powerline Adapter.
I normally connect either by wire to the adapter, or wirelessly direct to the router.

[rcrsn51]

So the repeater is connected directly to an Ethernet port on the router with a patch cable? Is it close to the router or in a remote location with a long cable?

What's preventing you from using the repeater as the main WiFi access point?

[Lobster]

So the repeater is connected directly to an Ethernet port on the router with a patch cable? Is it close to the router or in a remote location with a long cable?

What's preventing you from using the repeater as the main WiFi access point?

Remote location with a long cable.

Yes I could use wifi as the main access point. Good idea.

I am not seeing my sister for a few weeks, so hopefully she will now connect and use the Ipad.

Thanks everyone for your help and suggestions.

If you have ten minutes, here is my podcast on security, I am not an expert but a good reminder ... three years old but a useful intro
http://youtu.be/_uZ_qZgOwg4