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Sylvander

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PostPosted: Tue 11 Aug 2015, 04:09    Post subject:  

@Dry Falls

1. " You're looking for xfe file manager, not window/desktop manager. Right?"
Right.

2. "It's what a person is used to for sure."
I really like the twin file panes that give the option to "Copy to..." or "Move to...", from the chosen source pane with the other pane as the default destination.
Plus I know exactly how to make it do stuff.
Some stuff ROX does better, and I use ROX for that.
But I'd like to explore the other File Managers included in jLH64.

3. "uploaded xfe-1.37-x86_64-JL64.sfs to gdrive"
So where do I go to get it? Where is gdrive? Out on the cloud? Link?
Or is it now in the jLH64 PPM?
How come the jLH64 PPM has stuff listed as available, but when I go to install an item, it appears to be unavailable?
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Dry Falls

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PostPosted: Tue 11 Aug 2015, 05:23    Post subject:  

@ Sylvandr: gdrive means where you got the iso. On opening post scroll down to where it says
    Download Link:
    JL64-603( Just-Lighthouse64)

I put everything there. I'd repeat Tazoc's caution about PPM. Use packages built for this distro first. The fatdog distro sometimes works and sometimes doesn't. That is the 600 series, which is fairly compatible but not maintained. Better sometimes to just go to fd's ftp://ibiblio site and download from there. Most everything at lhp.org still works. The slackware distros install pretty well but gslapt does it better.

Gslapt uses /var/log/packages to determine what's already installed and what's not and to determine dependencies. At this point, that is the more complete directory. PPM reads woof-installed-packages and the builtin_files directory to assemble its 'layers' file. It errors a bit more but generally does a pretty good job. I've had some luck with puppy noarch through ppm.

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Sylvander

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PostPosted: Tue 11 Aug 2015, 09:30    Post subject:  

@Dry Falls

1. "...gdrive means where you got the iso. On opening post scroll down to where it says

Download Link:
JL64-603( Just-Lighthouse64)
"
Got it, now downloaded, and loading at startup. Very Happy
It's working just fine, except...
As per usual, the "Right-click->Open with..." needs to be populated.
I have a link somewhere, with instructions on how to do that.
It's a pest to have to do that, but worth doing.
I wish someone would fix Xfe [hint, hint].
Would you like me to post that link?
Here it is = http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=545478#545478
[In Konqueror, how should I make some text link to a web page?]

2. "...just go to fd's ftp://ibiblio site and download from there."
Erm...would that be here?

3. "Most everything at lhp.org still works. The slackware distros install pretty well but gslapt does it better."
This, to me, is like a foriegn language.
A bit like Parliamo Glesca of the 1960's.
I understand this, do you? Wink
But I need a translation for the above.
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Dry Falls

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PostPosted: Tue 11 Aug 2015, 12:41    Post subject:  

Quote:
1...[In Konqueror, how should I make some text link to a web page?]
2...Erm...would that be here?
3...gslapt does it better."
This, to me, is like a foriegn language.

1. Konqueror-spot is configured with less restrictions than konqueror run as root. In case you missed it, internet apps run as spot are in menu -> Internet. Browsers opened from the wbar (bottom of screen) run as root. You need to play with konqueror's preferences like enabling javascript.
2. yes
3. In the above post, I said distros when I should have said repos. Better?

In the desktop folder (icon at top left of screen) is PUpD-chooser showing the different update/package managers available. Gslapt is the "official" slackware package manager. Lighthouse update is basically informational. Basically a list of what specific to lighthouse is available. If you try to use it as it is intended (like "get updates") it will open PPM. This is because I haven't yet got a repo to host Just-lighthouse. Google is already starting to show an unfriendly side. Soon it will be "no more mister nice guy" if you don't use chrome/chromium. I use g-drive with reluctance.

lhp.org is Tazoc's site for lighthouse (the original).
Yes, Scottish is loads easier to navigate!
xfe open-with needs to point to /root/.config/rox.sourceforge.net/OpenWith/ or mime-types. Not sure how one would go about that. I'll try the script. Maybe it's something we can transplant.
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Dry Falls

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PostPosted: Wed 12 Aug 2015, 21:14    Post subject: JL64 docs  

Repaired JL64 helpfiles & etc.
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edoc


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PostPosted: Sat 15 Aug 2015, 22:44    Post subject:  

hulu.com suddenly will not play movies. (I first observed this last night.)

Black screen - even though I can mouse-over the timeline and see screenshots - it won't stream.

I updated to the latest version of Flash and still no joy.

EDIT: I also flushed the Flash cache, updated Firefox, and rebooted. Same result. Is it Hulu, FF, or Flash that broke something in the Linux version this time?

Thoughts, please?

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James C


Joined: 26 Mar 2009
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Location: Kentucky

PostPosted: Sun 16 Aug 2015, 02:18    Post subject:  

Finally got around to doing a frugal install on the new box.

Code:
System:    Host: Just-Lighthouse64 Kernel: 4.1.3-JL-64 x86_64 (64 bit, gcc: 4.8.2) Desktop: Openbox 3.5.0 Distro: unknown
Machine:   Mobo: ASUSTeK model: M5A97 LE R2.0 version: Rev 1.xx Bios: American Megatrends version: 2601 date: 03/24/2015
CPU:       Hexa core AMD FX-6300 Six-Core (-MCP-) cache: 12288 KB flags: (lm nx sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 sse4a ssse3 svm) bmips: 42140.4
           Clock Speeds: 1: 2500.00 MHz 2: 1400.00 MHz 3: 1400.00 MHz 4: 2000.00 MHz 5: 3500.00 MHz 6: 1400.00 MHz
Graphics:  Card: nVidia GT218 [GeForce 210] bus-ID: 01:00.0
           X.org: 1.12.3 driver: N/A tty size: 124x24 Advanced Data: N/A for root
Audio:     Card-1: ATI SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA) driver: snd_hda_intel bus-ID: 00:14.2 Sound: ALSA ver: k4.1.3-JL-64
           Card-2: nVidia High Definition Audio Controller driver: snd_hda_intel bus-ID: 01:00.1
Network:   Card: Realtek RTL8111/8168B PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet controller
           driver: r8169 ver: 2.3LK-NAPI port: d000 bus-ID: 02:00.0
           IF: eth0 state: up speed: 100 Mbps duplex: full mac: <filter>
Drives:    HDD Total Size: 1120.2GB (1.9% used) 1: id: /dev/sda model: KINGSTON_SV300S3 size: 120.0GB
           2: id: /dev/sdb model: WDC_WD10EZEX size: 1000.2GB
Partition: ID: swap-1 size: 8.60GB used: 0.00GB (0%) fs: swap
RAID:      No RAID devices detected - /proc/mdstat and md_mod kernel raid module present
Sensors:   System Temperatures: cpu: 23.6C mobo: N/A gpu: 36.0
           Fan Speeds (in rpm): cpu: N/A
Info:      Processes: 169 Uptime: 6 min Memory: 400.1/7886.4MB Runlevel: 5 Gcc sys: 4.8.2
           Client: Shell (bash 4.2.53) inxi: 1.9.7


Code:
bash-4.2# free
             total         used         free       shared      buffers
Mem:       8075712      1787732      6287980       422632       151724
-/+ buffers:            1636008      6439704
Swap:      8396796            0      8396796


Looking good so far......
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Dry Falls

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PostPosted: Sun 16 Aug 2015, 03:58    Post subject:  

edoc wrote:
Black screen - even though I can mouse-over the timeline and see screenshots - it won't stream.
The latest flash I've seen is Flash-11.2.202.491. It seems every new upgrade renders the previous unusable for some sites. But you say you've upgraded, so it's probably something else. I don't use ff, and I'm not familiar with hulu, but it may be the video rendering in lighthouse itself. Try using xorgwizard (modesetting driver). Then install the opengl pet at gdrive (mesa-9.17 + glu). Playing with the xfe pet, I discovered it plays hell with the display in kde. I've rebuilt that sfs and added the opengl pet in a remaster and that solved the video problems I encountered. The preferable thing to try is the delta patches for JL64-603.sfs and 3_devextra inside 150814deltas.tar.gz at gdrive. If you do that, forget opengl_JL64-1.pet. Don't know what else to suggest.

df

ps., google lost the iso during a lightening strike so there is no iso at gdrive til the 27th, when my upload quota resets. Oh the joys of cloud computing and high speed interweb. My first linux ran off a floppy disk and a 28k modem @ $9 a month!
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Dry Falls

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PostPosted: Tue 18 Aug 2015, 19:28    Post subject:  

rebuilt xfe-1.37-x86_64-JL64.sfs, now 10M to be more compatible with JL64. Also 2 delta patches available (use one or the other depending on iso) -- see opening post. The attached pet below is independent of those, fixing some html codes in lighthouse documentation and an updated package list:
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edoc


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PostPosted: Tue 18 Aug 2015, 20:07    Post subject:  

I saw references to deltas for the "g" and "f" versions but not to the plain version.

Is this it?

Quote:
150816-JL64-603.sfs___JL64-603.sfs.delta


Do I read correctly that the xfe rebuild update is included in the all of the version deltas?

Thanks for all that you do!

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edoc


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PostPosted: Tue 18 Aug 2015, 20:09    Post subject:  

Seamonkey question ...

Something happened on my wife's laptop such that the very top black bar - which includes the title and the icons to minimize, close, resize - is missing.

I cannot spot where I'd cause it to return.

Anyone have the answer, please?

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Dry Falls

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PostPosted: Tue 18 Aug 2015, 21:28    Post subject:  

@edoc, you either hit 'undecorate' or dragged the window up behind the taskbar. Grab on to a corner and stretch it out to the side. Then you can pull it back down. You can avoid this by setting margins in the openbox configuration.


Thew xfe filemanager is a separate sfs addon. The first delta patch also contains fix to DevX and 3_devextra along w/ JL64-603 fix. the second only contains JL64-603 fix. There's a readme file which explains it.

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PostPosted: Tue 18 Aug 2015, 22:31    Post subject:  

Dry Falls wrote:
Thew xfe filemanager is a separate sfs addon. The first delta patch also contains fix to DevX and 3_devextra along w/ JL64-603 fix. the second only contains JL64-603 fix. There's a readme file which explains it.

df


So these three are what I need? Of am I missing a 4th?

Quote:
xfe-1.37-x86_64-JL64.sfs

150816-JL64-603.sfs___JL64-603.sfs.delta

docpatch-2.pet

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PostPosted: Tue 18 Aug 2015, 22:58    Post subject:  

Dry Falls wrote:
edoc wrote:
Black screen - even though I can mouse-over the timeline and see screenshots - it won't stream.
The latest flash I've seen is Flash-11.2.202.491. It seems every new upgrade renders the previous unusable for some sites. But you say you've upgraded, so it's probably something else. I don't use ff, and I'm not familiar with hulu, but it may be the video rendering in lighthouse itself. Try using xorgwizard (modesetting driver). Then install the opengl pet at gdrive (mesa-9.17 + glu). Playing with the xfe pet, I discovered it plays hell with the display in kde. I've rebuilt that sfs and added the opengl pet in a remaster and that solved the video problems I encountered. The preferable thing to try is the delta patches for JL64-603.sfs and 3_devextra inside 150814deltas.tar.gz at gdrive. If you do that, forget opengl_JL64-1.pet. Don't know what else to suggest.df


Just scrolled-up & saw this - thanks - I will run these things down.

[/quote]ps., google lost the iso during a lightening strike so there is no iso at gdrive til the 27th, when my upload quota resets. Oh the joys of cloud computing and high speed interweb. My first linux ran off a floppy disk and a 28k modem @ $9 a month![/quote]

What about a couple of backup hosting sites?

I think I can set up a FTP location and/or just put it on a Web page where it could be downloaded.

Also, aren't there some free host sites, or have they all gone commercial?

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Dry Falls

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PostPosted: Tue 18 Aug 2015, 23:55    Post subject:  

edoc wrote:
So these three are what I need? Of am I missing a 4th?

150816-JL64-603.sfs___JL64-603.sfs.delta if you downloaded 150816-JL64-603.iso and are working with that basefile. 150804-JL64-603.sfs___JL64-603.sfs.delta is for 150804-JL64-603.iso but also has the Dev patches.

Don't use the opengl pet. It doesn't fit any more. By the way, if you use Tazoc's compiz-fusion addon, it removes that top bar on purpose. I don't have the video hardware to support it, so I haven't messed with it too much.

Also, I think I've mentioned this before but I routinely start a new session/save with xorgwizard. The stock driver gives a mooshy black screen on and off, like washing with pine tar.

There are free webhosts, but not for 5+ gigabytes. I did think of setting one up for small files and patches.

df
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