Puli 32/64 bit

[gjuhasz]

You might consider addressing this in the next release.
Also, QuickSetup is NOT setting all Hostname fields when the user changes it to his preference. @BarryK fixed this bug in his last Quirky/April release.

Dear gcmartin,

Thanks for your suggestion. I try to improve the "Puli flavor" of Quicksetup in the next release.
About Barry's bugfix: are you referencing to /etc/printcap where the old name still appears after renaming the machine?


Dear Sylvander,

Is it possible to install a WINE? If so, how? PET or SFS? If PET, which PET?

I propose using http://www.smokey01.com/gjuhasz/package ... 1.7.21.pet if you need to run wine.

Is it possible to [use a website perhaps, to] test that my choice of "1-rigorous" is functioning as it aught?

I will send you an URL in a PM. Playing a video there generates an alarm: in Rigorous mode it will be auto-blocked in a few seconds.

Please check whether the Default.smartsave file contains the sound saving section (see my post sent on 17 Jul).

why it is necessary to do this rather than this being done when I use the QuickSetup window

In Puli, the QuickSetup window tries to connect the Internet while the network isn't set up yet. With the timesync.sh file the Startup folder, there is a better chance that it is activated during the the network connection is up. At least, it happens when the Restore procedure finishes. But if you rename it (within the Startup folder) to zztimesync.sh, then it will find a just activated eth0 at the beginning, too.
Or, use the Psync window to sync the time manually.

In Puli, the QuickSetup dialog is ALWAYS auto-displayed when you reach the desktop at the beginning of each new session.

You are right, English is not my first language - thanks for the correction, I will use your words in the next version. But, by then, please forgive me that the QuickSetup dialog warmly welcomes you to Puli each case you log in...

Have fun!

Regards,

gjuhasz

[Sylvander]

1. "I propose using www.smokey01.com/gjuhasz/sfs/wine_puli_wt-1.7.21.pet if you need to run wine. "
I cannot remember doing this, but I already have /mnt/sdb1/packages/wine_puli_wt-1.7.21.pet, so all is well.
I see it loading during Puli startup, and it runs using the winefile command.
Small problem as follows: when I run it, it asks to have 2 components installed, which I do, and that is successful, but it takes TIME.
Is it possible to avoid this?

2. "I will send you an URL in a PM. Playing a video there generates an alarm: in Rigorous mode it will be auto-blocked in a few seconds."
I completed your instructions, and it all worked:
i.e.
a. "play the same video. In a few seconds, Puli barks and the network tray icon becomes red. After another few seconds, the video is interrupted."
This worked, except it took about a minute to interrupt the video.
b. "Try to play the same video again: you will not be able to play because it is blocked. Check the /etc/suspicious_hosts file which is referencing this host."
The above happened.
In fact, I had to manually "Setup networking" once again to get re-connected to the web.

3. "Please check whether the Default.smartsave file contains the sound saving section (see my post sent on 17 Jul)."
YES, the sound saving section exists in both:
/etc/asound.state
And...
/mnt/sdb1/patch/etc/asound.state
And the 'Master Playback Volume' [in both] is set to the "value 12".
I am guessing that this explains why my sound is presently un-muted.

4. "With the timesync.sh file in the Startup folder"
I have this file in the following 3 locations:
/usr/local/psync
/root/startup
/mnt/sdb1/profiles/Common/root/Startup
The significance of this file existing in 3 locations is beyond my understanding.

5. "In Puli, the QuickSetup window tries to connect the Internet while the network isn't set up yet. With the timesync.sh file the Startup folder, there is a better chance that it is activated during the the network connection is up. At least, it happens when the Restore procedure finishes."
I've read this again and again, and I have only the vaguest grasp of its meaning/significance.
I guess it isn't good to attempt to connect to the internet and sync the clock, whilst "the network isn't set up" [whatever that means].
What is "the network" exactly?
What is "the Restore procedure"?

6. "if you rename it (within the Startup folder) to zztimesync.sh, then it will find a just activated eth0 at the beginning, too."
I feel the need to lie down in a darkened room.
Aught I to rename the file to "zztimesync.sh"?
In which location of the above listed three in item 4?
And would this make the clock auto-sync at startup?
It's all SO MUCH EASIER in a "normal" Puppy.
Must it be this complex in Puli?

[gjuhasz]

... it asks to have 2 components installed, which I do, and that is successful, but it takes TIME. Is it possible to avoid this?

This is the default behavior of the original wine package. I never install those (obsolete) components. They are (mostly) unnecessary. Note that my wine package has winetricks built-in.

the 'Master Playback Volume' [in both] is set to the "value 12"

Please right-click the Retrovol tray icon > the Retrovol config window pops up. Here, select Tray tab > ensure that the Tray slider is associated with the Master Playback control > click Apply (names in this sequence are hardware-specific - please interpret them as appropriate). Please only run the /etc/asound.state script AFTER the above settings are successful.

The significance of this file existing in 3 locations is beyond my understanding.

/usr/local/psync is the folder where this timesync.sh script can be found in each puplet.
During bootup, Puli copies the content of /mnt/sdb1/profiles/Common/root/Startup to /root/Startup. This is why you see those files in /root/Startup, too.
I admit that you can save a few bytes by creating a "/root/Startup/zztimesync" script that looks like this:

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sh /usr/local/psync/timesync.sh

Aught I to rename the file to "zztimesync.sh"?

Afrter you click OK in Quicksetup, the scripts in the /root/Startup folder are executed in alphabetic order. Among them, the zsupp script establishes the network connection. Consequently, a zztimesync or similar name script runs only after zsupp has finished, thus being able to access the time server.

Must it be this complex in Puli?

By default, Puli offers a fresh start for each session - "tabula rasa". However, there are different opportunities (patch folder, Common folder, smartload, smartsave features, backups, etc.) to remember some user settings and/or data from any of the past sessions. In Puli 6.0.3, you will see more flexible and easier-to-use configurations, for example, you will be able to select any of your pre-set boot configurations on-the-fly, during bootup.

Have fun!

Regards,

gjuhasz

[Sylvander]

Sorry for the late reply.
Something went wrong, I didn't receive a notification of your post.
Only found it when I decided to check.

1. " I never install those (obsolete) components. They are (mostly) unnecessary."
Tried canceling the installation of those 2 components, and the winefile command works just fine, so that's how I'll use it in future.
Learned something new.

2. "my wine package has winetricks built-in."
I've not heard of winetricks; any link to info on this?
What does it do?

3. "...select Tray tab > ensure that the Tray slider is associated with the Master Playback control > click Apply..."
In the Tray tab...the "Tray Slider" drop-down-box item chosen = "25:Master Playback Volume".
I then clicked "Apply".
The volume icon then changed to muted, then moved position in the tray to leftmost, then became un-muted, with the volume at 1000%.
A good result methinks.

4. "Please only run the /etc/asound.state script AFTER the above settings are successful."
So aught I to attempt to run /etc/asound.state?
I don't know how to do that.
Tried using ROX to left-click on that, but doing so only opened the file as a text file.

5. "you can save a few bytes by creating a "/root/Startup/zztimesync" script that looks like this:
Code:
sh /usr/local/psync/timesync.sh"
Made the script file = /root/Startup/zztimesync.
It has the following content:

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#!/bin/sh
sh /usr/local/psync/timesync.sh

Was it incorrect to leave the extra part in?

6. "By default, Puli offers a fresh start for each session - "tabula rasa"."
"tabula rasa" = "blank slate", right?
But that is only by default.
It would be nice to be able to CHOOSE during startup whether to use "blank slate" [like puppy pfix=ram] or NOT.
Normally, I'd want to use my personalizations by default, and "blank slate" by choice [as is the "normal" Puppy method].

7. "there are different opportunities (patch folder, Common folder, smartload, smartsave features, backups, etc.) to remember some user settings and/or data from any of the past sessions."
Woa...if only I understood all of this, I might then be able to make use of it, and might think "what a wonderful way to do things".
It's surely going to be of no use to me until I DO understand.
Right now, I only understand how to drag a [/mnt/sdb1/Backups] backup onto the [/mnt/sdb1/Backups] "restore" icon...
And it's too troublesome to be forced to do that at [almost?] every session.

8. "In Puli 6.0.3, you will see more flexible and easier-to-use configurations, for example, you will be able to select any of your pre-set boot configurations on-the-fly, during bootup."
Sounds GOOD.
When will 6.0.3 be available?
Would it be possible to have the latest configuration arrangement put into effect by default, after a short [5 second?] timeout?
And the "blank slate" arrangement only put into effect if chosen?
So the user need do nothing to get their personalizations.

[gcmartin]

About Barry's bugfix: are you referencing to /etc/printcap where the old name still appears after renaming the machine?

New bug discovery!

All these years of using FirstRUN with hostname facility setting, this field was overlooked and apparently untested. In the years as this FirstRUN field's handling was improved, the focus was on 4 system fields, thus, missing this field. FirstRUN, initially by @Shinobar became a central point to setting the fields properly. @BarryK took over and provided his improvements further handling this field in FirstRUN for the overall Puppy system. This intends to set the system, so that everywhere you look you would find a "consistent" hostname in Puppy Linux.

This needs reporting/resolution as every PUP with FirstRUN is missing this field's proper setting with obvious implications. Inconsistent system settings, is one.

No one else has picked up on this oversight. One, I know, has ignored it.

Thanks for bringing this to community attention! Maybe this fix can be added to WOOFCE for the next PUP builders to have.

[rcrsn51]

with obvious implications.

What would those implications be?

[gjuhasz]

Would it be possible to have the latest configuration arrangement put into effect by default, after a short [5 second?] timeout?
And the "blank slate" arrangement only put into effect if chosen?
So the user need do nothing to get their personalizations.

Sorry for the late response. I am on vacation.
Puli 6.0.3 will be announced in a few weeks. It is ready except the Help file.
By then, for users who need to have their latest configuration arrangement put into effect by default, I propose to open their

<boot device>/profiles/Common/usr/bin/patch

file and change it as follows:

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#!/bin/bash
bootdev=`cat /etc/rc.d/PUPSTATE |grep PUPSFS |cut -f1 -d "," |cut -f2 -d "'"`
sync
killall -9 abiword
killall -9 gnumeric
killall -9 textmaker
killall -9 planmaker
killall -9 presentations
killall -9 soffice
killall -9 scalc
killall -9 simpress
killall -9 swriter
killall -9 xchat
killall -9 evince1
killall -9 google-chrome
killall -9 chromiumb
killall -9 chromiumv
killall -9 firefox
killall -9 opera
killall -9 skype
killall -9 gtkdialog3
killall -9 vlc
sync
echo -n hihi > valami
sync
while [ ! `cat valami |grep argument` ]; do 
sleep 1
umount /mnt/$bootdev 2>valami
sync 
done
killall -9 yaf-splash
sync
/usr/local/apps/Connect/AppRun --connect
rm valami
sync
cim=`/etc/rc.d/rc.firewall save`; vancim=`echo $cim |grep -c addresses`; csaklokal=`echo $vancim |grep -c 127.0.0.1` 
if [ $vancim == 0 ] || [ $csaklokal == 1 ]; then 

INTERFACES="eth0"
for INTERFACE in $INTERFACES #exs: wlan0 eth0
do
# ------------ last trial with eth0
 [ -d /sys/class/net/${INTERFACE}/wireless ] && continue #only want wired.

 ifconfig eth0 up > /tmp/sns_wired_log 2>&1
 [ $? -ne 0 ] && continue

 if ! ifplugstatus-0.18 "eth0" | grep -F -q 'link beat detected' ;then
  sleep 1
  if ! ifplugstatus "eth0" | grep -F -q 'link beat detected' ;then
   sleep 1
   if ! ifplugstatus-0.18 "eth0" | grep -F -q 'link beat detected' ;then
    sleep 1
    if ! ifplugstatus "eth0" | grep -F -q 'link beat detected' ;then
     sleep 1
     if ! ethtool "eth0" | grep -Fq 'Link detected: yes' ; then
      ifconfig eth0 down
      sync
      continue #no network.
     fi
    fi
   fi
  fi
 fi

 MACADDRESS="`ifconfig -a eth0 | grep -o 'HWaddr .*' | cut -f 2 -d ' '`"
 maPATTERN='|'"$MACADDRESS"'|'
 DHCPCDFIX="`grep "$maPATTERN" /tmp/sns_connections_wired | head -n 1 | cut -f 7 -d '|'`" #100325 ex: -I ''

 MODTIME1="`stat --format=%Y /etc/resolv.conf`"
 dhcpcd $DHCPCDFIX eth0 >> /tmp/sns_wired_log 2>&1
 MODTIME2="`stat --format=%Y /etc/resolv.conf`"
 [ "`grep -v '^#' /etc/resolv.conf`" == "" ] && MODTIME2=$MODTIME1 #fail.
done
sync
chown -Rf spot:spot /root/spot/
sync
 if [ "$MODTIME2" != "$MODTIME1" ];then
  echo "eth0" > /tmp/sns_interface_success #100325
  /etc/rc.d/rc.firewall save
  sync
 else
  ifconfig eth0 down
  sync
  dhcpcd --release eth0 2>/dev/null
  ip route flush dev eth0 #100703
  killall -9 yaf-splash 
  sync
  touch /root/spot/aktual
  yaf-splash -bg ref -close box -icon /usr/share/pixmaps/puli.png -timeout 10 -text "No network found!!!" &
 fi
fi 
sync
#restoring latestbackup begins here
mount /dev/$bootdev /mnt/$bootdev 
sync
sleep 1
ls -1 /mnt/$bootdev/backups/Puli_backup_* > /dev/null 2>&1
if [ "$?" = "0" ]; then
	latest=`ls -t /mnt/$bootdev/backups/Puli_backup_* | head -1`
	sync
	sleep 1
	/usr/bin/Resto $latest
	sync
	sleep 1
else
umount /mnt/$bootdev 
sync
sleep 1
yaf-splash -bg green -close never -fontsize large -timeout 5 -text "Now you can safely unplug the USB drive" &
fi
#restoring latestbackup ends here

Have fun!

Regards,

gjuhasz

[Sylvander]

@gjuhasz
You said:
"By then, for users who need to have their latest configuration arrangement put into effect by default, I propose to open their"

From what I take to be its meaning, I would word it as follows:
Until then, for users who need to have their latest configuration arrangement put into effect by default, I propose they should open their
Have I understood correctly?
Therefore, is my wording correct?

I have made this change.
i.e. I've replaced all of the content of the file with the new code you posted.
So far I see no obvious change/difference.
I assume I would see the difference if I understood its workings.

[gjuhasz]

I've replaced all of the content of the file with the new code you posted.
So far I see no obvious change/difference.
I assume I would see the difference if I understood its workings.

The default name of a backup file is

Puli_backup_<YYYY>_<MM>_<DD>_<HH>_<MM>.tar.gz,

e.g., Puli_backup_2015_08_14_12_26.tar.gz

Their default place is on the boot device, in the /backups folder,

so the full path is like

/mnt/sdb1/backups/Puli_backup_2015_08_14_12_26.tar.gz

You may rename your backup files, however. Modifying the following lines allows the above script to find the latest backup file even if it has been renamed:

Change from

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ls -1 /mnt/$bootdev/backups/Puli_backup_* > /dev/null 2>&1 
if [ "$?" = "0" ]; then 
   latest=`ls -t /mnt/$bootdev/backups/Puli_backup_* | head -1` 
   sync 

to

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ls -1 /mnt/$bootdev/backups/*.tar.gz > /dev/null 2>&1 
if [ "$?" = "0" ]; then 
   latest=`ls -t /mnt/$bootdev/backups/*.tar.gz | head -1` 
   sync

Please also check if you have a

/patch/usr/bin/patch

file on your boot device. If yes, this is possibly an ancient copy, so please simply delete the file (not the /patch folder) or update it as proposed above.

Have fun!

Regards,

gjuhasz

[Sylvander]

1. "/mnt/sdb1/backups/Puli_backup_2015_08_14_12_26.tar.gz"
I have a backup file in this location, with a name of this form.
I'm guessing that the code within the /mnt/sdb1/profiles/Common/usr/bin/patch file auto-restores the /mnt/sdb1/backups/Puli_backup_<YYYY>_<MM>_<DD>_<HH>_<MM>.tar.gz file, right?
Hence, I should now see the effect of this backup being auto-restored as the desktop is reached during startup, right?
----------------------------------------
Well...I now see the dialog come up on screen that asks if I want to restore my backup file, which is NICE.
BUT...
Problem...
It only displays AFTER I manually make the few remaining configuration choices in the welcome dialog.
And then it is SLOW to display after this.
----------------------------------------

2. "Modifying the following lines allows the above script to find the latest backup file even if it has been renamed:"
Within the file /mnt/sdb1/profiles/Common/usr/bin/patch, I changed those lines of code as you specified.

3. "Please also check if you have a
/patch/usr/bin/patch
file on your boot device."
I don't even have a /mnt/sdb1/patch/usr/bin folder, therefore I have no /mnt/sdb1/patch/usr/bin/patch file.

[gjuhasz]

It only displays AFTER I manually make the few remaining configuration choices in the welcome dialog.
And then it is SLOW to display after this.

Please let me know the configuration choices you still need to make there.
Puli 6.0.3 displays much faster...


Have fun!

Regards,

gjuhasz

[Sylvander]

Please let me know the configuration choices you still need to make there.

Numlock and Set Time.

[Sylvander]

Bump...

When is Puli-6.0.3 going to be released?

[gjuhasz]

When is Puli-6.0.3 going to be released?

Uploading...


Have fun!

Regards,

gjuhasz

[Billtoo]

I prepared a 32gb flash drive with gparted, ext4 and set the boot flag.
I downloaded the Puli-6.0.3_install.tar.gz, extracted it to a hold
directory,copied all the file to the flash drive then ran grub4dos.
I added kdegames from PPM,also arandr and gkrellm.

Seems to be working fine so far, need to read how to save this.

# report-video
VIDEO REPORT: puli, version 6.0.3

Chip description:
VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Redwood PRO [Radeon HD 5550/5570/5630/6510/6610/7570]

Requested by /etc/X11/xorg.conf:
Resolution (widthxheight, in pixels): 1920x1080
Depth (bits, or planes): 24
Modules requested to be loaded: dbe

Probing Xorg startup log file (/var/log/Xorg.0.log):
Driver loaded (and currently in use): ati
Loaded modules: dbe dri2 exa extmod fb glx kbd mouse radeon ramdac

Actual rendering on monitor:
Resolution: 3840x1080 pixels (1013x285 millimeters)
Depth: 24 planes

...the above also recorded in /tmp/report-video
#

[gjuhasz]

I prepared a 32gb flash drive with gparted, ext4 and set the boot flag.
I downloaded the Puli-6.0.3_install.tar.gz, extracted it to a hold
directory,copied all the file to the flash drive then ran grub4dos.
I added kdegames from PPM,also arandr and gkrellm.

Seems to be working fine so far, need to read how to save this.

Dear Billtoo,

Thanks for testing the new Puli version before its announcement.

I propose to use http://smokey01.com/gjuhasz/readme.html as a quick guide until I finish with administration and change the first post here in the forum.

Have fun!

Regards,

gjuhasz

[gjuhasz]

Let me proudly announce the new Puli 6.0.3

Available at http://smokey01.com/gjuhasz

See details in the first post.

* Some updates kindly applied from Tahrpup 6.0.3 CE - kudos to 666philb and CE Team.
* Major change: you can select the best appropriate one from many smartload configurations simply by hitting a key during boot time. Examples in the install kit.
* New comfort feature: you can auto-restore the latest backup at boot time (controlled by the smartload file)
* Unique in Puli: You can restore more than one backups on top of each other, regardless of the machine(s) they were created in.
* Minor bugfixes
* Smaller footprint

Have fun!

Regards,

gjuhasz

[gjuhasz]

Dear Puli 6.0.3 Users,

I found a couple of typos in the new 6.0.3 release.
Fortunately, it is easy to correct them. On the boot pendrive, you have folders named /profiles/2-crazy and /profiles/3-lazy.

Both include one hidden icon (mis)named .Diricon - please rename them to .DirIcon one-by-one (change the second "i" from lower case to upper case "I".
It's a bit strange that ROX does not allow us to capitalize letters in a filename in one step so rename each file first to, e.g., ".Diracon" then to ".DirIcon" that will be accepted.

Sorry for the inconvenience.

Have fun!

Regards,

gjuhasz

[gjuhasz]

Unique in Puli: You can restore more than one backups on top of each other, regardless of the machine(s) they were created in.

To a user question: In this Puli version, it is recommended that the involved backups reference to the same security profile.

I am working on accepting any backups in the next Puli.


Have fun!

Regards,

gjuhasz

[Sylvander]

Hello there, finally I'm posting a reply.

I made 2 bootable Puli Flash Drive installs, with the following as my number-1:
1. The latest is on my 4GB Lexar with a single partition formatted ext4, with the boot flag set, the Puli files copied to the partition, and "Grub4Dos bootloader config" used to install the bootloader.
It booted OK at 1st attempt.
Seems to be running OK.
a. I'm struggling to fully understand all of the features of Puli, and how to operate it.
b. I tried reading your readme at http://smokey01.com/gjuhasz/readme.html, but conceded defeat before reaching the end.
Just too long/complex for me.
But I feel it's worth persevering.
c. Copied into the /mnt/packages folder the following:
wine_puli_wdt-1.7.21.pet
xfe-1.33-i686.sfs
d. Also made the necessary edit of the content of /mnt/sdb1/profiles/Common/smartload file to have both wine and xfe loaded at startup.
Both appear to be working in addition to the other default auto-loaded packages.
e. Still having trouble with "Backup" and "Save: smart".
Is it OK to "Backup" during the session, then "Save: smart" at shutdown/reboot?
I fail to grasp the difference between these; exactly what each does, and do they conflict in any way?
e.g. I made config changes to the display of time, and auto-sync of time.
Not sure if the time really is auto-syncing, and the time display change was lost at reboot.
f. Is a "Backup" auto-restored by default at startup?
And if it is, how should it be by-passed if needed?

2. My number-2 is an 8 GB Flash drive formatted as FAT-32 and using your installation instructions.
I see no difference in the operation of Puli Flash Drives 1 & 2.