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zigbert


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PostPosted: Tue 13 Oct 2015, 15:04    Post subject:  

smokey01 wrote:
01micko wrote:
Pbackup missing icon on Backup button ** who maintains that?

Zigbert?
As said for at least 2 years - pBackup is one of my unmaintained projects. It's coding is dreadful and is a pain to maintain - even for the creature that created it.

BUT, the icon-bug is fixed in the last available version at
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=10975

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PostPosted: Wed 14 Oct 2015, 04:10    Post subject:  

Hahaha Laughing

musher0 wrote:
Sorry for being the party crasher, but if this is going to become a discussion
about the new woof-CE-built slacko's, please start a separate thread and
migrate the longish messages about it there?


Well I can see 2 sides to the argument. Yes, these are slacko related posts but equally woof-CE related posts as each builder (AFAIK Billtoo, smokey01 and peebee) has built their own woofed up slackoes and good on them too. I've offered as much support as my time has allowed. Smile The feedback has been extremely useful in getting a more stable woof build system and I am particularly happy that @peebee reported the bug that woof can't be built inside a savefile/savefolder. We will have to add a check for that in `merge2out`. Very pertinent to the thread as a whole I'd say. Smile

OTOH.. maybe I'll start a "slacko woofer's" thread in "Advanced" or something and if I do, perhaps Iguleder could link to it in the main post.

I certainly appreciate the comment Christian as it could confuse some.

Cheers,

Mick.


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Ok, thread created .. see Slacko Woofers

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PostPosted: Fri 16 Oct 2015, 17:56    Post subject:  

Woofers please help.
here are 2 patches that move some p'apps' into rootfs-skeleton as discussed here and onwards, so they can be maintained and found easier.
The changes affect belenos, tahr and slacko 14.1 pups

To use the patches download the file and then go into your woof-CE git folder (not the woof-out folder) and run
Code:
git pull --all
git checkout testing
git pull # if not to testing already
git --stat /path/to/path # to see what will do
git --check /path/to/path # to see what if there are any conflicts
git am /path/to/path # to apply them

Run it first for patch 0001 and then 0002 Shocked

Then build your puppy and see if there are any issues.
if you do not like it you can simply
Code:
git reset --hard <hash of 2 commits back>
and get your git to its original state and in sync with github woof-CE.

Report back either way so we can add them to woof if OK (or add them yourself if you have commit rights)
Thx

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PostPosted: Sat 17 Oct 2015, 16:07    Post subject:  

bigpup wrote:
Is there something that explains how to use Woof-CE?
The people that have been using Woof-CE seem to understand, but what about someone new??

There is the readme-first.

However, someone new to all of this is going to need a little hand holding type of readme.

I got confused on how to run devx in Slacko 5.7 so I can run the git command to download Woof-CE. All I get is "bash: git: Command not found". Is getting git from PPM enough? Or is there a distro that can run all commands on page 1 OOTB?

edit: Found a hint (by 01micko): If I right-click on the devx.sfs file, there is a "sfs_load" option, maybe that will do it...
edit2: It works! Now I'm up to the ./merge2out command Mr. Green
edit3: now ./0setup
edit4: now ./1download
edit5: darn, after 20 minutes it ran out of RAM... restarting and trying it again from /mnt/home (36GB free) instead of /root
edit6: ok ./1download took me about 25 minutes, now onto ./2createpackages
edit7: 1.6 hours later #2 is finished and my woof_out dir is now 2.7GB, now onto ./3builddistro-Z
edit8: this step took about 1.3 hours with devx, I put ice cubes under my laptop because it seemed like it was going to catch fire from being at 100% CPU for so long and the ice was melted by the time it was done Lol... now to test the new iso Smile
edit9: Works good. Country field is missing but my RAM got overloaded compiling locale? while Firefox had 6 tabs open it seems
edit10: Successfully compiled glibc_locales after closing Firefox. Might try ./3builddistro again unless I can merge it in somehow
edit11: Deleted everything I built and called it a day. Moral of the story: Can't beat the classic "Gradient-gray" jwm theme Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sun 18 Oct 2015, 12:39    Post subject:  

mavrothal wrote:
Woofers please help.
here are 2 patches that move some p'apps' into rootfs-skeleton as discussed here and onwards, so they can be maintained and found easier.

Anybody?...

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PostPosted: Sun 18 Oct 2015, 15:52    Post subject:  

mavrothal wrote:
Anybody?...

Sorry, I do not have enough free time for fully test.
Regards

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PostPosted: Sun 18 Oct 2015, 17:08    Post subject:  

pls see also that problem Wink
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PostPosted: Mon 19 Oct 2015, 04:03    Post subject: anybody  

mavrothal wrote:
mavrothal wrote:
Woofers please help.
here are 2 patches that move some p'apps' into rootfs-skeleton as discussed here and onwards, so they can be maintained and found easier.

Anybody?...

BarryK wrote:
the line in the script should look just like I have shown:

export TEXTDOMAIN=myapp


"Should" is a bit too polite.
I would say: "must"

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PostPosted: Mon 19 Oct 2015, 05:40    Post subject: Re: anybody  

L18L wrote:
mavrothal wrote:
mavrothal wrote:
Woofers please help.
here are 2 patches that move some p'apps' into rootfs-skeleton as discussed here and onwards, so they can be maintained and found easier.

Anybody?...

BarryK wrote:
the line in the script should look just like I have shown:

export TEXTDOMAIN=myapp


"Should" is a bit too polite.
I would say: "must"

my 0.02 Euro



The idea of this patch is to see if it affects the woof building process per se, but other suggestions are always welcome.

BTW these is exactly how zigbert's p_apps look like. They were just extracted and placed in the folders. No changes what so ever.
Is interesting that although the original apps are translated in (many?) language pets this "must" never came up before so it could be fixed earlier. But is never too late.
Hopefully zigbert will correct them before or immediately after they get into in woof-CE, but patches are always welcome. Can even be done through the github web interphase. No git experience necessary. Wink

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PostPosted: Mon 19 Oct 2015, 10:47    Post subject:  

I don't know anything else than TEXTDOMAIN is defined in my pApps?
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PostPosted: Mon 19 Oct 2015, 15:18    Post subject:  

zigbert wrote:
I don't know anything else than TEXTDOMAIN is defined in my pApps?

The way momanager is written, considers everything after "=" as the value of the TEXTDOMAIN variable. ie comments and everything. Other translation tools may not have these sensitivities but momanager does.
So you can either fix this bug in momanager or fix the bug at the TEXTDOMAIN lines. Wink

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PostPosted: Tue 20 Oct 2015, 05:20    Post subject:  

01micko suggests adding 'getflash' in woof-code/rootfs-packages. http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=868529#868529
Personally, I think it's a great idea.

Would it not be appropriate to do the same with other utilities?
I think about :
- sfs_load
- defaults-chooser
- momanager
- etc.

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PostPosted: Tue 20 Oct 2015, 06:21    Post subject:  

ASRI éducation wrote:
01micko suggests adding 'getflash' in woof-code/rootfs-packages. http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=868529#868529
Personally, I think it's a great idea.

Would it not be appropriate to do the same with other utilities?
I think about :
- sfs_load
- defaults-chooser
- momanager
- etc.


That is exactly the idea! Wink

The more packages there, the simpler the maintenance becomes.

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PostPosted: Tue 20 Oct 2015, 06:32    Post subject:  

01micko wrote:
That is exactly the idea! Wink
The more packages there, the simpler the maintenance becomes.

The only potential "fly-in-the-ointment" that I can see is that pets will also be needed so that people can update their system incrementally - which is especially true of things like get-flash which rely on external web addresses which can suddenly change.....

or have I got it wrong??

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PostPosted: Tue 20 Oct 2015, 06:49    Post subject:  

peebee wrote:
01micko wrote:
That is exactly the idea! Wink
The more packages there, the simpler the maintenance becomes.

The only potential "fly-in-the-ointment" that I can see is that pets will also be needed so that people can update their system incrementally - which is especially true of things like get-flash which rely on external web addresses which can suddenly change.....

or have I got it wrong??

Not really.
The way this is going the dirs will also contain a pet.specs file so to get a pet just download/clone woof (yes is a bit of an overkill) and run dir2pet to get your pet file. The current problem with this approach is that the folders do not have a version number and this will trip dir2pet, but there are ways around it (manual or automatic)

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