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YaPI (yet another Puppy Installer) install any Puppy iso
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eric52


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PostPosted: Fri 04 Dec 2015, 12:57    Post subject:  
I admit I stumbled over the labels the first time, but I worked through the indecision by just trying it. How hard would it be to just add the words "frugal and" to "full install?" bigpup's Wed. explanation is pretty clear; how about a "read.me" text file? Things get a bit tricky when partitioning a pen drive and making it look like a HD, but anyone doing that stuff can probably find their own way.
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PostPosted: Fri 04 Dec 2015, 18:20    Post subject:  
L18L,

You should be able to run the installer, I posted, from the Puppy you are using.

You are getting there, but not completely.
That took care of the what Puppy files to look for.
However, it is still not finding them.

Normally you have to have the iso file mounted for the files to be found.
Trying that did not help.
The last thing is the normal:
is it from a CD or a directory?.

Normally, if you have the iso file mounted and you select directory it starts the install. Not doing that.
(I do not think this worked all that good, but it usually did work.)

Now I get to this point in the install.
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PostPosted: Sat 05 Dec 2015, 06:14    Post subject: Puppy Universal Installer for any puppy  
bigpup wrote:
You should be able to run the installer, I posted, from the Puppy you are using.
Yes I can thanks to mick01 in another thread I can run one (it is a slacko) screenies taken there.
Quote:
You are getting there, but not completely.
That may be right for you but for me it is not right.
See screeny: installed, just for test, a tooppy_precise in a new partition.
No errors, everything as expected by me.

Let us look to your issue:
Quote:
That took care of the what Puppy files to look for.

If you choose "another .iso" and select another .iso
then etc/DISTRO_SPECS from this iso is extracted and sourced.
That's all.
The rest of installer is not changed.

Quote:
However, it is still not finding them.
You have to find them. Don't you?

Quote:
Normally you have to have the iso file mounted for the files to be found.
Trying that did not help.
Now I see from your screeny you wanted to create wakepup boot floppy. ... and missing /root/download/initrd.gz
Is that the only thing that did not work?

Quote:
The last thing is the normal:
is it from a CD or a directory?.

Normally, if you have the iso file mounted and you select directory it starts the install. Not doing that.
(I do not think this worked all that good, but it usually did work.)
It works if selecting any of the 3 files (vmlinuz, initrd, ..sfs)

Quote:
Now I get to this point in the install.
See images.
the text says: Finished .... Wink

Puppy Universal Installer is an old script.
IIRC one of the first I have been trying to internationalize...
Looks like it needs a general overhaul, not just the GUI...

bigpup, thanks for feedback. Maybe you (and any other) give it another try?
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PostPosted: Sat 05 Dec 2015, 21:29    Post subject: Re: Puppy Universal Installer for any puppy  
L18L,

I am wondering if I put your code changes in the correct locations Idea

Basically what I was showing was the installer was not doing what I was asking it to do.
Quote:
Now I see from your screeny you wanted to create wakepup boot floppy. ... and missing /root/download/initrd.gz
Is that the only thing that did not work?

No.
That is the strange thing. I never selected anything about wakepup boot floppy.
Do not know how that got in the mix Shocked

Any chance you could post your modified version of the Universal Installer?
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PostPosted: Sat 05 Dec 2015, 21:58    Post subject:  
OK finally got it working. Very Happy

I started with a fresh version of the original Universal Installer.
Applied the code changes, making sure to get them in the correct location.

It worked this time to install from an iso I was not running from.

However, the part about having to navigate to the opened iso file is a little confusing. For me I had to go to /mnt/+root+tahr-6.0.4.1, which was where the iso was opened.
I think a new user would find that confusing.
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PostPosted: Sat 05 Dec 2015, 22:41    Post subject:  
I wonder if this information is confusing to a new user.

Are they going to understand that the iso file needs to be opened before they run the installer?
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PostPosted: Sat 05 Dec 2015, 22:55    Post subject:  
L18L,

About your code change.

About the window where you select install from the running Puppy or from an iso.

If you select from the running Puppy.
It still goes to selecting an iso file navigation window.

Shouldn't it just proceed with the install process?
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PostPosted: Sat 05 Dec 2015, 23:20    Post subject:  
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However, the part about having to navigate to the opened iso file is a little confusing. For me I had to go to /mnt/+root+tahr-6.0.4.1, which was where the iso was opened.
I think a new user would find that confusing.
wonder if this information is confusing to a new user.

Are they going to understand that the iso file needs to be opened before they run the installer?


What do you think about this for a info window?

Something else.
There needs to be a USB button on this window.
If you boot from a live puppy USB flash drive and that is the puppy you want to install.
As it is now, you need to select directory button and navigate to the USB drive, to find the files to install from.
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PostPosted: Sun 06 Dec 2015, 00:25    Post subject:  
I posted a modified version of the Universal Installer in the first post.
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=101127
It has all the code changes as of now.

Please help test.

Still alpha stage.
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PostPosted: Sun 06 Dec 2015, 06:44    Post subject: Re: Puppy Universal Installer for any puppy  
bigpup wrote:
Basically what I was showing was the installer was not doing what I was asking it to do.
Yes I see now.
Let me explain again what I have been testing:
choose another iso (that is our topic)
got it installed (on usbhd partition)
did not care about boot code, grub, ....

I have been describing this as "step 1"
Other steps have to follow:
- avoid repeated input
- check for errors
- boot code ...

Quote:
That is the strange thing. I never selected anything about wakepup boot floppy.
Do not know how that got in the mix Shocked
Don't know either Wink

Quote:
Any chance you could post your modified version of the Universal Installer?
Yes, I have seen you did it
and I will also do so.

Next post you wrote:
However, the part about having to navigate to the opened iso file is a little confusing. For me I had to go to /mnt/+root+tahr-6.0.4.1, which was where the iso was opened.
I think a new user would find that confusing.
You are absolutely right.
Let us make it step 2:
Avoid double input (let the script just recall the .iso that has been already chosen)

in another post you wrote:
Something else.
There needs to be a USB button on this window.
If you boot from a live puppy USB flash drive and that is the puppy you want to install.
..mh
(relevant for "install from this running puppy" only)
puppy does not know where it booted from.
Really? Rolling Eyes
What is inside /etc/rc.d/PUPSTATE Question
Some helpful forum members could
boot from USB pfix=ram
and post output of
Code:
cat /etc/PUPSTATE

here.

Maybe the question "Where are the Puppy files?" can be omitted...
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PostPosted: Sun 06 Dec 2015, 07:17    Post subject: Puppy Universal Installer for any puppy
Subject description: first choice		  
bigpup wrote:
I posted a modified version of the Universal Installer in the first post.
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=101127
It has all the code changes as of now.

Please help test.

Still alpha stage.

You have moved the first question (this or another) to first place.
That is much better this way.
Congrats!

BTW, would you mind to append for any puppy to Subject of this thread?
..and we will try to stay with just this, it is hard enough I think.

I am going to code step 2 now.
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PostPosted: Sun 06 Dec 2015, 09:41    Post subject: Re: Puppy Universal Installer for any puppy
Subject description: step 2: avoid double entry of location		  
L18L wrote:
I am going to code step 2 now.

... done.

Note, included is a fix for Terabytes sized discs ,,,

Feedback of testers welcomed.

Choose "or another .iso"
Select your iso.
Continue and you will no more be asked "where are the Puppy files?"
if you have already chosen to install "another .iso".

Hope it works for you, too.
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PostPosted: Sun 06 Dec 2015, 12:06    Post subject:  
You also have to modify the locate_puppy_src_files function to be aware of both the aSPECS/DISTRO_SPECS and the iso.
While at it, you may want to add some safety checks, ie that the iso has a puppy, That the processor is capable if it is a 64bit puppy, That is not already installed elsewhere and will use old savefiles/folders.On full installs, that the iso is not in the partition that will be erased and re-written. Something else I forget now Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sun 06 Dec 2015, 12:36    Post subject: Re: ?  
mavrothal wrote:
You also have to modify the locate_puppy_src_files function to be aware of both the aSPECS/DISTRO_SPECS and the iso.

No, not now.
This function is used only for choice "from running puppy".
We are at "from another .iso". (yes must be puppy.iso Wink )

mavrothal wrote:
While at it, you may want to add some safety checks, ie that the iso has a puppy, That the processor is capable if it is a 64bit puppy, That is not already installed elsewhere and will use old savefiles/folders.
One after the other:
I wrote:
Other steps have to follow:
- avoid repeated input
- check for errors
- boot code ...

Thanks for your input.
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PostPosted: Sun 06 Dec 2015, 13:34    Post subject: Re: ?  
L18L wrote:

We are at "from another .iso". (yes must be puppy.iso Wink )

Yes, but it does not work (for me).
Names the folder wrong with the version from the running system and only copies initrd and vmlinuz, so you may want to reconsider. Wink
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