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DebianDog64 - 64 bit DebianDog-Jessie

#1 Post by fredx181 »

DebianDog 64 bit version.

I will not continue to maintain this version anymore.
Update 2019-04-19 Download links replaced (these were dead earlier, fixed now)

Edit: 15.04.2017 Debian Dog 64-bit Chrome Remaster from forum member dancytron, see for info and download here:
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 815#919815

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Edit: 20.03.2016 - New iso image uploaded. List of changes read here:
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 415#895415
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Edit: 07.02.2016 Link to Stretch version removed:
See more here:
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 440#888440
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Edit: 15.12.2015 - New iso image uploaded. List of changes read here:
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 028#877028
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See for planned fixes and changes on next iso release in second post.

For the most documentation see:
DebianDog - Jessie thread
Exceptions:
- Any links to files or repository containing i386 packages (or other non 64 bit packages)
- Any documentation about live-boot v2 (it's not included in this 64 bit version)
(maybe I will include later in next iso, porteus-boot and (official Debian) live-boot v3/4 works OK from what I tested)
- Any documentation about systemd (not included in this 64 bit version, although it can be installed and used, but not properly tested yet)

Other differences compared to 32 bit DebianDog:
- Different applications, some are missing and some added.
- Just one version (Openbox) (instead 2 versions that DebianDog 32 bit provides (JWM and Openbox_xfce), see for specifications below)

Login details:
root with password root (default automatic login)
puppy with password puppy

Specifications:
Built from an absulute minimal Debian-Jessie amd64 full install.
Kernel: 3.16.0-4-amd64
Choice of Boot Methods: porteus-boot and live-boot v3 (see for options in documentation from DebianDog - Jessie thread)
Default WM - OpenBox.
(with different choice of Desktop modes: tint2 vertical icons, wbar icons or rox-pinboard icons, to choose, run 'Desktop Manager' from Menu)
Tint2 bottom panel.
Default File Manager - pcmanfm with option to use rox.
Default Internet Browser - Palemoon.
Menu provided by Obmenu-generator (perl script)

Download:
EDIT: Links fixed (were broken because of a major change Dropbox recently made)

Iso: DebianDog64-Jessie-openbox-2016-03-20.iso Size: 185MB
Md5sum: DebianDog64-Jessie-openbox-2016-03-20.md5

DEVX: 061-DEVX-DebDog64-Jessie-2016-03-20.squashfs

Thanks very much to everyone who has been involved with DebianDog, specially Toni (saintless), William (mcewanw), Terry (sunburnt) and all who helped by giving feedback on the DebianDog threads.

Fred

Screenshots:

wbar icons:
Image

rox-pinboard icons:
Image
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#2 Post by fredx181 »

Edit: 20.03.2016 - New iso image uploaded. List of changes read here:
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 415#895415

*** Changes, fixes and information planned for new release after 20.03.2016 ***

1. New version of porteusbootscript, v 0.0.3, see here for info:
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 237#897237

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apt-get update && apt-get install porteusbootscripts
2. see here for changes of: apt2sfs, sfsload, portablesfs-loadsfs-fuse:
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 352#935352

Added new to repository:
- xhippo, Audio/Video player from William, see more info here:
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 621#708621

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apt-get update
apt-get install xhippo
- upgrade-kernel , install with Synaptic, or from terminal:

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apt-get update
apt-get install upgrade-kernel

See here for the improvements made, suggestions by 'The Flying Cat'
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 244#930244
Also see here:
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 740#929740

Added new to DebianDog64 Extra-Modules (for loading with SFS-load):
Skype module re-uploaded, previous one can cause problems, see info here:
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 094#902094
- skype_apulse.squashfs *** New Upload ***
- slimjet-9.0.1.0.squashfs
DebDog64-Jessie/Extra-Modules at DropBox

Fred
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#3 Post by drunkjedi »

Nice, will try.

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#4 Post by Terry H »

Manual frugal install with Save on exit. Apart from a couple of minor issues shown below, all appear to be working well. Nice job.

Wifi b4321 card not detected. I manually installed b43 firmware and wifi is now working.

Launchers for 'Synaptic Package Manager' and 'Setup Timezone' do not execute when clicked from the Menu>System or panel launchers. I edited scripts 'synaptic-startup' and 'timezone-setup', removing gsu or sudo, as the scripts did not run when logged in as the default root. I also edited rox, wbar and tint2 launchers accordingly.

I couldn't get Menu>System>Synaptic Package Manager to work, as I couldn't work out how to edit the 'synaptic-pkexec' script.

The change to the time zone does not appear to be displayed correctly or maintained across reboots. When the timezone-setup is run the changes to the displayed on screen does not appear to be the correct time for the selected region, ie correct current time 13:15 ( UTC - 18:15), changed timezone to reflect GMT-5 time displayed was 4:15. I did several changes to various timezones. The time displayed did not appear to be a correct representation of the actual time. Upon reboot the time displayed reverts back to being UTC (18:15).

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#5 Post by dancytron »

I think you are seeing the timezone problem.

It is a Debian thing.

Find the file etc/adjtime. Change UTC to LOCAL (or is it the other way around).

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#6 Post by Terry H »

dancytron wrote:I think you are seeing the timezone problem.

It is a Debian thing.

Find the file etc/adjtime. Change UTC to LOCAL (or is it the other way around).
dancytron,
Thank you, that was the part I couldn't determine, how LOCAL or UTC is distinguished.

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#7 Post by fredx181 »

Hi Terry H,

Thanks for testing!
Launchers for 'Synaptic Package Manager' and 'Setup Timezone' do not execute when clicked from the Menu>System or panel launchers. I edited scripts 'synaptic-startup' and 'timezone-setup', removing gsu or sudo, as the scripts did not run when logged in as the default root. I also edited rox, wbar and tint2 launchers accordingly.
Mmm... very strange, I can't reproduce any of these problems.
What if you do in terminal:

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gsu synaptic
or:

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sudo dpkg-reconfigure tzdata
as root?

For me these commands execute well.

Are you sure you are using a fresh save file or folder?
(the cause could be you are using a save from other DebianDog)

About timezone, I must admit that I'm confused about how it works in Debian.
As dancytron says editing /etc/adjtime might help.
Here's a discussion about it:

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 124#806124

And is the right time set in your BIOS?

Fred

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#8 Post by Terry H »

fredx181 wrote:
Mmm... very strange, I can't reproduce any of these problems.
What if you do in terminal:

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gsu synaptic

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root@debian:~# gsu synaptic
sudo: unable to stat /etc/sudoers: No such file or directory
sudo: no valid sudoers sources found, quitting
sudo: unable to initialize policy plugin
My main Linux background doesn't use sudo, so I'm not to sure what is missing, /etc/sudoers exists and looks normal to me.
or:

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sudo dpkg-reconfigure tzdata
as root?

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root@debian:~# sudo dpkg-reconfigure tzdata
bash: ]sudo: command not found
root@debian:~#
Are you sure you are using a fresh save file or folder?
(the cause could be you are using a save from other DebianDog)
This was a fully new install, I actually removed my DD Jessie 32-bit installation to make room for this, so there was no save data to be used.
About timezone, I must admit that I'm confused about how it works in Debian.
As dancytron says editing /etc/adjtime might help.

And is the right time set in your BIOS?

Fred
Fixed as per dancytrton's reply.

Thanks,
Terry

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#9 Post by fredx181 »

Terry H wrote:root@debian:~# gsu synaptic
sudo: unable to stat /etc/sudoers: No such file or directory
sudo: no valid sudoers sources found, quitting
sudo: unable to initialize policy plugin

My main Linux background doesn't use sudo, so I'm not to sure what is missing, /etc/sudoers exists and looks normal to me.
Ok, thanks, it seems like sudo is broken somehow on your installation.
The reason for using sudo or gsu in some scripts or .desktop launchers is that it works both for root or regular user (if all is well, of course)

I can't explain why this is happening for you.
Can you investigate some things?
- Is there the same problem if you boot without save?
- Can you try reinstall sudo and see if this solves it:

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apt-get install --reinstall sudo
Fred

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#10 Post by Terry H »

fredx181 wrote:
Terry H wrote:root@debian:~# gsu synaptic
sudo: unable to stat /etc/sudoers: No such file or directory
sudo: no valid sudoers sources found, quitting
sudo: unable to initialize policy plugin

My main Linux background doesn't use sudo, so I'm not to sure what is missing, /etc/sudoers exists and looks normal to me.
Ok, thanks, it seems like sudo is broken somehow on your installation.
The reason for using sudo or gsu in some scripts or .desktop launchers is that it works both for root or regular user (if all is well, of course)

I can't explain why this is happening for you.
Can you investigate some things?
- Is there the same problem if you boot without save? (Not sure what you mean)
- Can you try reinstall sudo and see if this solves it:

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apt-get install --reinstall sudo
Fred
I reinstalled sudo, still have same issues.

Removed 'changes' folder for clean boot, still the same.

I'll do further tests if you require, however I don't want to take up your time on this, so wait and see if others may have issues also.

Terry

Edit: This is on Dell D630 Core 2 Duo laptop. I also checked md5sum prior to initial install.

Edit 2: sudo works as expected in my tahrpup installations
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#11 Post by dancytron »

Manual frugal install with Porteus boot, save on exit only in change folder. I put the /live directory from ISO in a directory /live64. How to set up menu.1st file was a little confusing. This is what I ended up with, which seems to work and not conflict with the Debian Dog Jessie 32 bit in /live folder.

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title PorteusDog Jessie64 (sda3) noauto from=/live64/ changes=EXIT:/live64/
root (hd0,2)
kernel (hd0,2)/live64/live/vmlinuz1 noauto from=/live64/ changes=EXIT:/live64/
initrd (hd0,2)/live64/live/initrd1.xz

title PorteusDog Jessie64 (sda3) No Changes from=/live64/
root (hd0,2)
kernel (hd0,2)/live64/live/vmlinuz1 noauto from=/live64/
initrd (hd0,2)/live64/live/initrd1.xz 
Switched Desktop to Rox Pinboard.

Installed

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lxterminal mesa-utils  libgl1-mesa-dri firmware-linux-nonfree libva1 libva-x11-1 libva-tpi1 rar xine-ui usbutils 
via apt-get install. Sound and video recognized after restarting X.

Tested synaptic and Set Timezone. They worked okay for me. Not sure what Terry is seeing.

There didn't seem to be a way to restart X-windows other than exiting to console and then typing startx. Don't know if that is an oversight or intentional.

No other issues so far.

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#12 Post by fredx181 »

Terry H wrote:- Is there the same problem if you boot without save? (Not sure what you mean)
I meant to try removing the changes=...... parameter from boot commandline, then it boots without even looking for save data.
I'll do further tests if you require, however I don't want to take up your time on this, so wait and see if others may have issues also.
Yes, let's wait and see, it's mysterious.
dancytron wrote:Manual frugal install with Porteus boot, save on exit only in change folder.
.....
.....
Thanks Dan!

Fred

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#13 Post by saintless »

Hi Fred.

Congratulations and sorry I can't give any testing reports but I'm sure William and others will do soon.

The sudo problem Terry H has is with all DD-Jessie and Wheezy versions:
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 514#848127
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 514#848292
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 514#848360

I don't think it will be solved easy since we do not have the same hardware. Maybe testing live-boot instead porteus on the same machine is a good idea to see if the sudo problem appears again.
Comparing sudo command executed from Puppy doesn't help much. Puppy folders and files permissions are not set properly for multiuser environment.

We don't have other reports about this strange problem and I think there is no need to investigate further (unless Terry H likes to continue testing and searching for fix).

Toni

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#14 Post by fredx181 »

Thanks for the reminder, Toni.

I completely forgot we've gone through this sudo issue already in the other thread.

Fred

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#15 Post by Wognath »

Thanks for DD64! A manual frugal install boots without problem on an older Lenovo netbook with a Via Nano U2250 processor.

Since the only issue so far is wireless, I thought I'd post this helpful link:
DebianDog wireless LAN HowTo

In my case, the needed modules were present, but there doesn't appear to be any firmware. I copied the /lib/firmware/b43 folder from Fatdog to get mine working. :)

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#16 Post by fredx181 »

Wognath wrote:Thanks for DD64! A manual frugal install boots without problem on an older Lenovo netbook with a Via Nano U2250 processor.

Since the only issue so far is wireless, I thought I'd post this helpful link:
DebianDog wireless LAN HowTo

In my case, the needed modules were present, but there doesn't appear to be any firmware. I copied the /lib/firmware/b43 folder from Fatdog to get mine working. :)
Thanks Wognath, glad it works well for you.

Copying /lib/firmware/b43 from Fatdog might work ok, but I would recommend the official way by installing it from the Debian repository:

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apt-get install firmware-b43-installer
Or install it by using synaptic.
I plan to include more firmware in next iso release, btw.

Fred

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#17 Post by fredx181 »

New package added to DebianDog64 repository:
openbox-keybinder

Openbox keybind configuration GUI, made by Pablo Cabrera and brought by Chriswaterguy here:
http://crunchbang.org/forums/viewtopic.php?pid=252719
A program to set keyboard shortcuts in Openbox.

Probably not the most intuitive program IMHO but it works well after figuring out how to use.
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apt-get update
apt-get install openbox-keybinder
Or by using synaptic.

Run it from Menu> Settings

Fred

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#18 Post by stemsee »

Congratulations!

Installed a frugal live off of iso with this boot code

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title Debian-PorteusDog (sda2) 
root (hd0,1) 
kernel (hd0,1)/live/vmlinuz1 noauto from=/ changes=/live/ i8042.noloop
initrd (hd0,1)/live/initrd1.xz
auto connected to internet on usb0 (android mobile tethered). DogRadio is fantastic (my new favourite app). Web browser works great. All hardware working. Feels great!

Only two problems so far.
1) Menu and tray, notification seized up! Cn still access menu by clicking on desktop. Happened after using synaptic to install xiphos and billard-gl

2) billard-gl installed but not working, executable not found, neither cli nor menu entry.
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#19 Post by mcewanw »

saintless wrote:Hi Fred.

Congratulations and sorry I can't give any testing reports but I'm sure William and others will do soon.
...Toni
Hi Fred, Toni,

It being summer here I haven't been using computer much so just noticed this new DebianDog64 post. Wow, I was delighted to see it since the only omission in the great DebianDog series (hope you manage a MintPup64 one day, but never a hurry). I will indeed be trying this out Fred - plan to download the iso tomorrow and maybe install on my partner's machine since she prefers a 64bit system. Almost Christmas Toni, I hope someone buys you a 64bit machine! ;-)

William
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#20 Post by fredx181 »

Hi Stemsee,
auto connected to internet on usb0 (android mobile tethered). DogRadio is fantastic (my new favourite app). Web browser works great. All hardware working. Feels great!
Thanks!
Only two problems so far.
1) Menu and tray, notification seized up! Cn still access menu by clicking on desktop. Happened after using synaptic to install xiphos and billard-gl
No idea what you mean, can you attach screenshot maybe?
2) billard-gl installed but not working, executable not found, neither cli nor menu entry
That's a mistake I made, it will be included in fixes list for next iso release.
In /etc/profile the PATH needs changed for root, instead:

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if [ "`id -u`" -eq 0 ]; then
  PATH="/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin"
else
  PATH="/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/local/games:/usr/games"
fi
export PATH
It needs to be this (to include /usr/games for root):

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PATH="/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/local/games:/usr/games"
[ "`id -u`" -eq 0 ]&& PATH="$PATH:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/sbin:/sbin"
export PATH
Edit: BTW, for me billard-gl needs also installed libgl1-mesa-glx and libgl1-mesa-dri :

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apt-get install libgl1-mesa-glx libgl1-mesa-dri
Fred
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